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You need to read the article before you post it, for most of the this is misinformation. I never post with misinformation, for I always read the article and see about where it came from.

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I did NOT post the article you refer to. It was posted by Pellicle. I merely commented that I had not read it and then discussed how my BP had gone up after I got on nightshift.

Please give me one of your angry faces as penance! :)
 
Well this is fun (not).

For the first time ever I was finally sent 2 bills from "Biotel Heart". Both for dates of service in 2022 which BC/BS denied because of "wrong procedure codes".

So instead now they are billing me DIRECT without actual insurance contract negotiated rates. Their statements are for $880 with an $800 "discount" saying I owe $80 for each. Oddly, for the few of their submissions over the past 3 years which DID get approved by BC/BS the amounts I was responsible for was $12 (and after my BC/BS deductible had been hit the amount was only $1 and something) - and for those dates of service (which go back to 2021) they have yet to bill me.

The bills I now received clearly state to contact your insurance company with insurance related questions before calling us so that is what I did. Person I spoke with at BC/BS basically said that they cannot bill me like this and need to get proper clearance/go through BC/BS, submit with the proper codes, then bill me the adjusted amounts.

He setup a 3-way conference call to Biotel with him on the line so we could all discuss. But Biotel Heart is so overwhelmed (or short staffed?) that we cannot get through. Tried this twice already. First time their system said our wait time was 40 minutes. After about 10-20 minutes we got kicked out of their hold queue and forced into a "leave a voice message" type of thing. Since that would not work for our conference call we decided to reconvene and try again the next week (on my next day off).

Similar thing happened again. On hold 10-15 minutes but kicked out to voice message system again.

BC/BS rep is supposed to try to call them on his own in the meantime then get back with me next week.

I thought I posted an update to this but it appears to be gone? Or reported (if so I assume by someone who works at Biotel Heart who doesn't like their company looking as bad as they are). Or I am losing my mind.

If my post was "reported" I would like to know why though.. This is ridiculous. If this post disappears/gets "reported" then I'm done here. So if you want me gone, go ahead....

UPDATE: As best I can recall now.

We were able to get through to Biotel the following week. Had a 3 way conference call. Biotel rep vs. BC/BS rep. Very long story. Short story is that the Biotel was told that they need to resubmit their bills to BC/BS and use the right procedure codes, and if they need help from BC/BS on that then they have to call that appropriate dept (not the territory of the customer rep who told them this). I gave the Biotel rep the # she needed to call & she promised to escalate this to a Supervisor and someone would get back to me within 5 business days as to what the status was.

It's now like 3 weeks (?) later. Have heard nothing. Other than just got another BC/BS EOB for a Biotel charge this time for last month or two, which was denied for wrong procedure codes yet again. How do they even stay in business?
 
It's now like 3 weeks (?) later. Have heard nothing. Other than just got another BC/BS EOB for a Biotel charge this time for last month or two, which was denied for wrong procedure codes yet again. How do they even stay in business?
I went thru a similar story several years ago with a different lab service.......then I found the Roche Lab and they were great. Unfortunately, Roche closed the lab service and forced me into that Biotel Co. My gut told me that was going to be another nightmare so I returned to my docs lab........great service and I don't even have a copay.......Medicare Advantage covers 100%........and I am testing every two weeks, sometimes weekly depending on INR. Now that I am getting old, INR seems a little more difficult to manage.........old age, diet, appetite, exercise, no ***, etc., etc. Don't laugh, I'm 87 years old.
 
I've had a rough last couple months and no time spend up here during that time but now am trying to catch up & post about this mess....here goes.

This company - whatever they happen to be calling themselves this week - Philips, Biotel Heart, Cardionet, Lifewatch, BioTelemetry, etc etc of which I cannot even keep track are (1) totally incompetent when it comes to billing and/or (2) crooks. And after what I've been through and doing some extensive research on the 'net believe it to be a combination of both.

But don't take my word for it. Just try googling around with terms like Bitoel complaints, Cardionet complaints, customer reviews for Biotelemetry etc etc. They have a pattern of majorly overcharging for their "service", screwing up bills, taking years to even bill people (like most of us in this thread after the changeover from Roche), using a particular collection agency as a billing service, just on and on and on.

Oh, and that just this past December they were forced to pay a $44 million dollar fine for overcharging Medicare, the VA, and violating something called the "false claims" act, in regards to a cardiac monitoring device/service. No wonder their billing dept is such a mess and trying to get them on the phone is no ez task, they are snowed under a $44 million fine!!!

My intent with writing this is to both warn anyone thinking of using this company for INR testing (or anything at all) to RUN AWAY AS QUICK AS YOU CAN and find some other means of testing, AND to see if anyone else has similar problems with them that I am having, how they dealt with it, and are their any government agencies I can turn to for help etc?

This probably is too confusing to make sense but basically to add to the saga I posted about above (how all of their submissions starting in about 2022 to my healthcare company Anthem BC/BS were denied for something relating to "procedure codes" in my EOBs), finally after about 4 months of waiting for them to get back to me (they were supposed to get back to me within 5-10 business days after a conference call with them & BC/BS took place on March 1st), I only got a non-answer of "our procedure codes are fine" with no solutions offered as to what then IS wrong.

Instead they expect me to pay their bills bypassing my insurance coverage taking the $880 and applying some type of arbitrary $800 discount - thus costing me $80/month - which amounts to between roughly 8 and EIGHTY times more than what it would cost me had they billed properly through BC/BS (through BC in 2021 when their billing "worked" I was charged either $11.76 per month for months where I had not reached my deductible yet and only $1.18 for months after my deductible was met and my portion owed was 10% - although I was not actually sent a bill myself for any of those 2021 charges until MAY of THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!).

Something happened at this company in 2022 post one of their many name changes/reorganizations/buyouts/mergers/something which has totally screwed up how their bills are being processed by my insurer Anthem BlueCross/BlueShield. Because all was well in 2021 yet for 2022 things are a mess and they are overcharging me bypassing my insurance, and even threatening me with collections, trying now to get about 2 years worth of $80 monthly charges to the tune of about $2000 (although so far they have only billed me for 3 out of those 18 months worth)!!!

Finally about 2-3 weeks ago I believe I have figured out what the billing problem is, which myself and a BC/BS rep told them about yet have still got nowhere....

Basically we have been able to figure out that their inflated $880 monthly charges for INR monitoring WORKED in 2021 with my insurance because they submitted those bills properly to my insurance which was Anthem BC/BS of Georgia. BC/BS then knocked that $880 down by their contracted rate for that service by $868.24 leaving me a total due of $11.76 or even less at $1.18 for the months I was past my deductible.

But the claims that were denied (and continue to be denied) by BC/BS have been submitted to a DIFFERENT arm of Blue Cross/Blue Shield, something called "Blue Shield of California". Of which as I understand it (and I am not a healthcare billing specialist by any means and do not understand how this confusing billing mess can even happen) is WRONG and using that arm of BC/BS only results in the charges being denied (according to a member services rep at BC/BS that I have been working with for over 4 months now).

WHY they stopped billing Anthem BC/BS and changed to billing "Blue Shield of CA" (which results in denials) remains a mystery.

WHY they continue to send claims to "Blue Shield of CA" despite the BC/BS member services rep telling them they need to contact Anthem BC/BS and bill them instead, as well as go back and get all the other wrong claims changed remains a mystery.

IF they are even going to do anything to try to straighten this out remains extremely doubtful.

It would not even surprise me if this billing snafu was intentional on their part, so that they can try to collect MORE $$ from me by bypassing my insurance than if they had continued to bill the correct BC/BS agency. Nothing would surprise me after reading stories like these below at the Better Business Bureau for one of their sister company names "Biotelemetry" (who if you've ever been billed by Biotel, Philips, Cardionet etc for INR you'll see they are at the SAME ADDRESS in Malvern, PA in the complaints below):

https://www.bbb.org/us/pa/malvern/p...telemetry-inc-0241-236041529/customer-reviews
In the meantime I have STOPPED using their "service" and returned my CoaguChek meter to stop the 'bleeding" at this point pun intended. From reading other various complaints on the 'net I fear they will continue to bill me moving fwd despite my trying to sever any such arrangement but that is a different story.

At this point I have zero faith in any of this getting fixed and being properly billed for the past year & a half and instead will find myself fighting with a collections agency.

I've purchased a meter for myself on ebay & will self-test moving fwd while at the same time I need to get a new family DR (long story), a new cardiologist (longer story), plus wade through a bunch of medicare confusion.

On the plus side after leaving nightshift and now leaving my very difficult/stressful job altogether my blood pressure has dropped about 30-40 points almost back to where I was 2 years ago although not being helped trying to deal with this either...
 
slipkid,
Did you file a complaint with the BBB (Better Business Bureau)?
Also, you can contact your states Insurance Ombudsman and file a complain with them to see if they can assist in the matter. As you appear to be in PA, here is their link:

Pennsylvania Insurance Department - File a Complaint

Nevertheless, as you seem to have things well documented, if they do send unpaid bills you say were in error to collections, you can dispute them.

The only issue my wife has had with Cardionet is she receives her bill several months late (not really an issue here as we collect more interest on it).
 
slipkid,
Did you file a complaint with the BBB (Better Business Bureau)?
Also, you can contact your states Insurance Ombudsman and file a complain with them to see if they can assist in the matter. As you appear to be in PA, here is their link:

Pennsylvania Insurance Department - File a Complaint

Nevertheless, as you seem to have things well documented, if they do send unpaid bills you say were in error to collections, you can dispute them.

The only issue my wife has had with Cardionet is she receives her bill several months late (not really an issue here as we collect more interest on it).

Thx I am saving that insurance/watchdog link. I believe that agency only deals with INSURER issues though rather than providers ineptly bypassing insurance (either intentionally or not) and taking years to bill their customers thus they may have no say or interest in dealing direct with Biotel (although perhaps they might help with any BC/BS logjams)..

IF this does not all get satisfactorily resolved (& goes to collections) THEN I will be leaving a BBB complaint, contacting that insurance watchdog group you mention, complaining to Pennsylvania's Atty General office, ask for help from a local congressman as to what other agencies I can turn to, as well as contacting all FOUR of the gov't attorneys who prosecuted the case against this company that resulted in Biotel paying a $44 million fine.

I'm sure those 4 attys might be very interested in hearing about this other pattern of billing misconduct by this conglomeration of companies (Cardionet, Biotel Heart, Biotelemetry, Phillips, Lifewatch etc) and might be willing to help steer me in the right direction.
 
It looks like a Class Action suit (you can't be the only one affected by this) might be attractive to some attorneys.

I was wondering the same thing. Hoping to hear from others in this thread in same/similar situation. I know back in the beginning we all had similar experience of not being billed, not getting any info from them what the bills would be, etc etc etc.

Reading some of the things on the 'net that happened to other people relating to other services from Cardionet/Lifewatch/Biotel/Biotelemetry/etc I saw similar complaints of bills being inflated and going to collections, bypassing insurance, billing people who had equipment that was faulty & had to be returned yet billed anyway, on and on.

This all goes back to a company/arms of same company that is completely disfunctional and needs to be set on the right path if not shut down with prejudice. But big business gets away with this crap all the time. The issue of them getting caught/prosecuted/fined/whatever to the tune of $44 million last December was only down to internal whistle blowers as I understand it, rather than poor victimized customers who have no recourse but to bend over under pressure from a collection agency.

Lawyers don't get involved for the sake of righting wrongs to help out the little guy- they do so for the sake of earning big $$ settlements, and the $$ probably are not here in this circumstance since there are no plaintiff "damages" to sue over (people would need to die, get crippled, etc rather than just incorrectly billed and bullied).
 
Lawyers don't get involved for the sake of righting wrongs to help out the little guy
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As Pellicle's meme said above - I'm SHOCKED. Like I just got my hand stuck in an electrical outlet.

Have to give credit when credit is due. I already assigned a lot of blame above. But for reasons unknown they (Cardionet at least) is doing the right thing (or maybe they are being forced to, I don't know).

Short story is that THEY HAVE CLOSED MY ACCOUNT WITH A ZERO BALANCE!!!!! No more fighting about the insurance screw ups and invalid bills bypassing my insurance. Although maybe I am missing something guess I will find out more as the months go by.

Someone called me from "Cardionet" today while I was out (yes a Saturday - I didn't even know they had hours on Saturday). I returned the call and spoke to another individual in billing who gave me the shocking news - my account now has a zero balance. Any billing statements can be disregarded.

The strange thing is that when I asked about that, asked if they worked things out with my insurance, the rep would only say that ALL past balances (not just mine) have been zeroed/cleared but she could not go into any details. I asked if they were going out of business and she said no.

Hopefully moving fwd they will bill patients correctly. That doesn't matter per se to me since I turned in my unit & will proceed further with INR testing on my own but is good news for anyone still using Cardionet/Lifewatch/Biotel Heart/Biotelemetry/Phillips.

If anyone else who uses them has any input I'm curious to hear it.
 
Maybe all the complaints (and I'm sure that you probably weren't the squeakiest wheel) someone decided the bad feelings and collections hassles they inherited weren't worth it to the company. It probably cost them more to fight than it would to do the right thing.

I'm glad that this has been resolved -- but I would still keep an eye out for a bill.
 
If anyone else who uses them has any input I'm curious to hear it.

I haven't posted here in quite some time, but decided to take a look and saw this recent post on the old Remote INR thread. My latest invoice from CardioNet was received three weeks ago for July 2022 - so billing is one year behind. The various acquisitions of Roche Remote INR > BioTel > Philips/CardioNet are well in the past, so they should have their billing & invoicing system caught up by now.

I don't mind that they are behind as long as it is accurate, which it has been. It's been more than a year since I contacted their billing department. At that time they said billing was behind due to delays in getting approval from insurance. I've never seen any delay of claims approval though.
They are current on submitting claims to my insurance (Medica) and the claims are accurate and approved within days. The most recent claim was Date of Service 6/4/2023 and approved by Medica 6/8/2023. So that excuse isn't valid.

In summary aside from the slow billing, no issues.
 
I haven't posted here in quite some time, but decided to take a look and saw this recent post on the old Remote INR thread. My latest invoice from CardioNet was received three weeks ago for July 2022 - so billing is one year behind. The various acquisitions of Roche Remote INR > BioTel > Philips/CardioNet are well in the past, so they should have their billing & invoicing system caught up by now.

I don't mind that they are behind as long as it is accurate, which it has been. It's been more than a year since I contacted their billing department. At that time they said billing was behind due to delays in getting approval from insurance. I've never seen any delay of claims approval though.
They are current on submitting claims to my insurance (Medica) and the claims are accurate and approved within days. The most recent claim was Date of Service 6/4/2023 and approved by Medica 6/8/2023. So that excuse isn't valid.

In summary aside from the slow billing, no issues.

Have you gotten any notice from them that that "all past balances have been zeroed"? I could be wrong but was under the impression that this was now the case for all their clients. That supposedly only new charges/bills would be billed to patients. They would not give me any details though...
 
Maybe all the complaints (and I'm sure that you probably weren't the squeakiest wheel) someone decided the bad feelings and collections hassles they inherited weren't worth it to the company. It probably cost them more to fight than it would to do the right thing.

I'm glad that this has been resolved -- but I would still keep an eye out for a bill.

Interestingly recently I got a statement from my old insurance that Cardionet had resubmitted a claim for one of the periods which was already denied. No bills yet regarding that but after all I've been through over 2-3 years nothing would surprise me regarding this company.
 
I am curious if others have experienced issues with the new owner of coaguchek. First, they suspended my account because I forget to test three times (not consecutive). Now, instead of being charged 250 per month, of which I pay 101 per month after insurance discount, it increased to 880 per month. I cannot even get a phone number for their billing dept. the rep with whom I spoke was very nice, but even she did not have a number. I’m still paying the insured rate of 101 a month, but want to address the pre-discounted rate. It’s ridiculous that increased almost four times the amount!
Have you considered doing your own home testing and reporting? After several outrageous charges from HomeINR I bought my own machine on ebay and test strips made arrangements with doctor to call in once week with results all at no cost after initial cost and once year strip purchase.
 
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