Nancy:
Your post sounds promising. Will be interested in reading about Joe's nightmarish stay.
Your post sounds promising. Will be interested in reading about Joe's nightmarish stay.
Joe is in the hospital
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Dear Nancy:
All of this news is good! I was wondering one thing though....if the strain came from the gut, is it possible he had an infarct there as well? Perhaps caused some bleeding (small) internally, that entered his bloodstream, cauisng his problems???? Have they checked out the gut?
Joe is one strong guy....I think everyone would agree. I hope you can get a rest now Nancy. We think of both of you often. - Marybeth
All of this news is good! I was wondering one thing though....if the strain came from the gut, is it possible he had an infarct there as well? Perhaps caused some bleeding (small) internally, that entered his bloodstream, cauisng his problems???? Have they checked out the gut?
Joe is one strong guy....I think everyone would agree. I hope you can get a rest now Nancy. We think of both of you often. - Marybeth
Nancy
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Yes, it is possible that there is some sort of breach in the intestine. His cardiologist brought this up the other day. He did examine Joe for rebound pain, saying that it would have been painful. Joe has never complained of any intestinal pain, and has none now.
I don't know what will happen next week regarding any further investigation into the cause. I do believe that Joe will have to have a colonoscopy some time soon.
The infection and the infarctions of the spleen are two separate issues, I think. But I don't know for sure.
Can you tell that it's not easy to come to a definite diagnosis with so much going on?
I do know that Joe's INR will have to be 3-4 now. Perhaps he threw some clots when his INR was at 1.8 briefly. It was only for a day or so, but maybe that was all that it took. His heart rate has been high for quite a while, possibly afib, certainly aflutter, so the low INR and irregular heart beats could have also caused infarcts.
I don't know what will happen next week regarding any further investigation into the cause. I do believe that Joe will have to have a colonoscopy some time soon.
The infection and the infarctions of the spleen are two separate issues, I think. But I don't know for sure.
Can you tell that it's not easy to come to a definite diagnosis with so much going on?
I do know that Joe's INR will have to be 3-4 now. Perhaps he threw some clots when his INR was at 1.8 briefly. It was only for a day or so, but maybe that was all that it took. His heart rate has been high for quite a while, possibly afib, certainly aflutter, so the low INR and irregular heart beats could have also caused infarcts.
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Nancy:
That is interesting.
You might recall that Wayne had two "issues" this past winter. In January, they believe he had a small stroke, as he started having problems with his left leg. Then early February he had a TIA. His INR was 1.8 at the time.
As you know, he gets tested VERY regularly, as he has had TIA's in the past.
He is in chronic a-fib. (Note the INR number exactly what Joe's was)
I think you are probably right on the money about the cause of the infarct, although I had two doctors tell us that 1.8 was still considered antocoagulated. Crap, I say. Not with a-fib and two artificial heart valves.
They just have to be higher. BTW...Wayne had also missed two does of his baby aspirin when he had the TIA. Ran out, and just hadn't gotten up to the corner to buy more. Frankly I don;t think he remembered how important it is.
Lastly, isn't there some kid of test they could do on the intestine? I think I recall someone on this site having intestinal problems due to clots, but I cannot remember who.....
Our guys often have such similar problems. - Marybeth
That is interesting.
You might recall that Wayne had two "issues" this past winter. In January, they believe he had a small stroke, as he started having problems with his left leg. Then early February he had a TIA. His INR was 1.8 at the time.
As you know, he gets tested VERY regularly, as he has had TIA's in the past.
He is in chronic a-fib. (Note the INR number exactly what Joe's was)
I think you are probably right on the money about the cause of the infarct, although I had two doctors tell us that 1.8 was still considered antocoagulated. Crap, I say. Not with a-fib and two artificial heart valves.
They just have to be higher. BTW...Wayne had also missed two does of his baby aspirin when he had the TIA. Ran out, and just hadn't gotten up to the corner to buy more. Frankly I don;t think he remembered how important it is.
Lastly, isn't there some kid of test they could do on the intestine? I think I recall someone on this site having intestinal problems due to clots, but I cannot remember who.....
Our guys often have such similar problems. - Marybeth
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Karlynn
Nancy,
I'm so glad to hear that things are looking better. I'm sure he will begin to feel much better once he gets home and his favorite nurse takes over fully.
I'm so glad to hear that things are looking better. I'm sure he will begin to feel much better once he gets home and his favorite nurse takes over fully.
gijanet
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I have been keeping you guys in my prayers.......
I have been keeping you guys in my prayers.......
and I am so glad to hear that the "H" word is being mentioned, but I am still truly sorry that y'all are having to endure so much. Many hugs. Janet
I have been keeping you guys in my prayers.......
and I am so glad to hear that the "H" word is being mentioned, but I am still truly sorry that y'all are having to endure so much. Many hugs. Janet
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Nancy
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Joe is home. He's very weak and has gout from all the stuff in the hospital, so walking is painful. He's on colchicine for it and some pain meds. He's still on antibiotics and will be for about a month more. They are still worried that his Klebsiella bacterial infection could develop into endocarditis. His spleen pain is gone.
His INR was raised to 3.5-4.0, they don't want any more clots forming to cause trouble, so his doc is working on getting that stable. He's got a lot of medical appts. scheduled in the next couple of weeks.
Considering how ill he was in the hospital, I'd say he's doing OK. He was fortunate that the clots did not travel to his brain. It was a scary time.
He's very happy to be home, and I'm happy also.
His INR was raised to 3.5-4.0, they don't want any more clots forming to cause trouble, so his doc is working on getting that stable. He's got a lot of medical appts. scheduled in the next couple of weeks.
Considering how ill he was in the hospital, I'd say he's doing OK. He was fortunate that the clots did not travel to his brain. It was a scary time.
He's very happy to be home, and I'm happy also.
Sherry
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Glad to hear Joe is home. I'm sure he'll be under better care from you than he was in the hospital. Give him my best.
Nancy, I'm sure glad to hear that Joe is home. I know being home doesn't mean that there isn't a long ways to go before this is behind him....but it is a start. I'm glad the clot(s) didn't go to his brain too.
As much as possible, you two try to rest and take a breather. Screen any visitors for sniffles! Again, I am so very happy that Joe made it out one more time.
As much as possible, you two try to rest and take a breather. Screen any visitors for sniffles! Again, I am so very happy that Joe made it out one more time.
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cocoalab
I am so glad you are home! I was really scared for you. I will sleep better now.
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geebee
We are happy along with you. Praying for easier times ahead.
Ross
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You two provide enough tension for everyone in here. Honestly do not know how you both handle these things. I know it's not by choice, but talk about having your share........
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Glad he's home, Nancy. You are an inspiration for us all- as an advocate for good health care and as a most loving and supportive wife. I hope the days ahead are easier and that Joe continues to improve.
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Glad to know that Joe is finally back home .
Thoughts/prayers continue coming your way....
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.Thoughts/prayers continue coming your way....
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Ross
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Nancy I didn't mean to sound insensitive in my post. You know I always think about the both of you and pray for you too!
hensylee
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we know what you're saying, Ross.
Nancy, I know how relieved you are to have Joe at home. Now, we know that he will be safe from the hospital inadequacies (sp?). Rest easy as you can and know that you are in many prayers.
Nancy, I know how relieved you are to have Joe at home. Now, we know that he will be safe from the hospital inadequacies (sp?). Rest easy as you can and know that you are in many prayers.
Nancy
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Ross,
You're not insensitive. What you said is true. Sometimes, I don't know how we get through all this. I think I view all these things in very small bites, and try to solve each small piece as they come. If we viewed them as the huge monsters that they are, nothing would ever get done, because we couldn't cope with the enormity of it.
I had to laugh in the hospital when an intern came in and started asking questions about Joe's medical history. We cannot remember it all. I have it on the computer in great detail, and bring it along wherever we go. So it was in his chart.
I asked her if she had read his chart, since all this info. was there.
She said that she was told not to read his history, that it would scare her. She only saw Joe once, so I guess she finally read his history and never came back.
He was followed from the ER to hospital admission and stay, by a fourth year medical student. She was a darling girl from California, and so nice. She'll be a very good doctor. She said she learned a LOT. Oh, by the way ladies, she told me that her class of med students had more females than males.
I have seen lots of question marks in his doctor's eyes. You can see them ya know So they sometimes don't know what to do.
All I can say is that what they did worked, and he's getting better each day.
Can't tell you all how much I appreciate this website. Where else would I go where people understand about such things. I sure don't know anyone around here who could even approach the multiplicity of Joe's problems. But I think there are a few of you here.
You're not insensitive. What you said is true. Sometimes, I don't know how we get through all this. I think I view all these things in very small bites, and try to solve each small piece as they come. If we viewed them as the huge monsters that they are, nothing would ever get done, because we couldn't cope with the enormity of it.
I had to laugh in the hospital when an intern came in and started asking questions about Joe's medical history. We cannot remember it all. I have it on the computer in great detail, and bring it along wherever we go. So it was in his chart.
I asked her if she had read his chart, since all this info. was there.
She said that she was told not to read his history, that it would scare her. She only saw Joe once, so I guess she finally read his history and never came back.
He was followed from the ER to hospital admission and stay, by a fourth year medical student. She was a darling girl from California, and so nice. She'll be a very good doctor. She said she learned a LOT. Oh, by the way ladies, she told me that her class of med students had more females than males.
I have seen lots of question marks in his doctor's eyes. You can see them ya know
So they sometimes don't know what to do.All I can say is that what they did worked, and he's getting better each day.
Can't tell you all how much I appreciate this website. Where else would I go where people understand about such things. I sure don't know anyone around here who could even approach the multiplicity of Joe's problems. But I think there are a few of you here.
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Mb
hOORAY hOORAY hOORAY horray!
Joe is home! As someone else said, it's not a cure, and we are sure he is still pretty stick, but gosh, it sure is a step in the right direction!!
Bravo, Nancy! As usual, your input probably helped pull him through this one. I hope both of you can get some rest. - Marybeth
Joe is home! As someone else said, it's not a cure, and we are sure he is still pretty stick, but gosh, it sure is a step in the right direction!!
Bravo, Nancy! As usual, your input probably helped pull him through this one. I hope both of you can get some rest. - Marybeth
