Cooker's Throwdown Friday II...8-28-09

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Thanks, Bina, I started reading the good South Beach Diet Doc's book last night at Barnes & Noble, and he makes a lot of sense. Didn't realize til then that he is a cardiologist, and he started his work on dieting from that perspective. The first two weeks would be a bear -- no rice, potatoes, pasta, bread -- and of course cookies cake, beer (etc) -- he doesn't mention scones, but, alas, I assume they fall under "cookie". :D But after two weeks you start working some of these back in, in moderation of course.

Potatoes would be the biggest sacrifice for me. I love them fixed in all the wonderful ways. They have always been a staple in my household. But I guess I could do without for a few weeks, then eat (sigh) fewer of them (I long ago gave up French fries -- pure junk). But I LOVE scalloped and mashed and baked potatoes.

SuperBob, I am not on South Beach, but another low carb, lean protein, good fats type diet and I loved potatoes and pasta too. Here is something I sware to you is the honest truth. Yes the first two weeks will be hell - but if you tough it out (you are SuperBob after alll) I'll bet you a head of romaine lettuce that you will find your cravings for potatoes go away. Carbs are addictive. - they give you a good sugar boost and then you want more. If you can break that cycle you will find your cravings diminish and you hardly miss them. Even sitting next to someone eating them I promise you won't even want to steal them off their plate....

Now all we have to do is figure out how you are going to send me that romaine lettuce when you find out it's true. :):):cool:
 
I guess you all have figured it out already. I had fallen off the weight control wagon and so have been avoiding this thread since it made me feel so guilty. Confession over....you have all probably been there. I'm still actually here and haven't weighed in a long time but I know I'm not going to like the findings.

It sure is nice to see a few new faces on this thread. Cooker, I'm sorry you've had a rough week. We've had some real bummers lately as well.

We are going on a cruise next week and I'll be back right after that.
 
SuperBob, I am not on South Beach, but another low carb, lean protein, good fats type diet and I loved potatoes and pasta too. Here is something I sware to you is the honest truth. Yes the first two weeks will be hell - but if you tough it out (you are SuperBob after alll) I'll bet you a head of romaine lettuce that you will find your cravings for potatoes go away. Carbs are addictive. - they give you a good sugar boost and then you want more. If you can break that cycle you will find your cravings diminish and you hardly miss them. Even sitting next to someone eating them I promise you won't even want to steal them off their plate....

Now all we have to do is figure out how you are going to send me that romaine lettuce when you find out it's true. :):):cool:

Well, for the most part. But Superbob will have to have some of those scalloped potatoes, even left over for breakfast, as Bina recommends. :D
 
I guess you all have figured it out already. I had fallen off the weight control wagon and so have been avoiding this thread since it made me feel so guilty. Confession over....you have all probably been there. I'm still actually here and haven't weighed in a long time but I know I'm not going to like the findings.

It sure is nice to see a few new faces on this thread. Cooker, I'm sorry you've had a rough week. We've had some real bummers lately as well.

We are going on a cruise next week and I'll be back right after that.

Betty, I understand totally where you've been. I make a little headway and then food seems to fly at me from all directions, i.e. invitations, celebrations, obligations. Then there are the just plain being bad days. It does get frustrating. You never have to feel guilty with us, but I know what you mean. Yes, we've all been there.
 
OKAY!!! New month --- new me!! I am gonna do it this time -- I am going to stay on the wagon!!!

Glenda's post really got me psyched up to get real. Geez -- she is amazing (see her current running post "Good News")

Betty, I too have felt guilt keep me away from here. I've just been a sloth this summer! I've stayed pretty much the same weight, but my habits are awful and I have not exercised since March. Blah. And that's how I feel, too. Blah. So I know I need to get moving, but I think I'm a little depressed or stressed or something and can't seem to give myself that kick in the butt to get going.

But it's a new month and I'm just going to start from now. I'll weigh in later today and just start fresh (since I lost the 25+ post surgery, several years ago, now, and having never gained them back, figure this is just the new me starting a new regime to be a Better ME!!

Okay, enough rah-rah for me. Good work all you losers!!

:D Marguerite
 
OKAY!!! New month --- new me!! I am gonna do it this time -- I am going to stay on the wagon!!!

Glenda's post really got me psyched up to get real. Geez -- she is amazing (see her current running post "Good News")

Betty, I too have felt guilt keep me away from here. I've just been a sloth this summer! I've stayed pretty much the same weight, but my habits are awful and I have not exercised since March. Blah. And that's how I feel, too. Blah. So I know I need to get moving, but I think I'm a little depressed or stressed or something and can't seem to give myself that kick in the butt to get going.

But it's a new month and I'm just going to start from now. I'll weigh in later today and just start fresh (since I lost the 25+ post surgery, several years ago, now, and having never gained them back, figure this is just the new me starting a new regime to be a Better ME!!

Okay, enough rah-rah for me. Good work all you losers!!

:D Marguerite

Nope, not enough rah rah yet. I'm choosing to look at it that it's not the fall that is so bad but if we refused to get back up that would be. And I think you are up. Several people have inspired me...Cooker, you have! You mention, Glenda.... I'm so proud of her too!
 
If I continue to have to eat the hospital food, I'm sure to lose a few pounds, right? :p And as bored as I am, I might even take a few million laps around the floor just to get away from these four walls. Interestingly, they are the EXACT same walls I had to look at back in November. :rolleyes: Is it Friday yet???
 
Bless your heart, Niki! You are such a trooper! I'm so glad your two "little urchins" (my husband's most endearing nickname for our youngest) are waiting at home for you so you can maintain that new glow of motherhood that I know you have. What a monotonous wait! I imagine you have certainly lost some weight in the hospital. Grechh. The food can be nasty.

Hang in there!!

Thanks for the votes of confidence ladies (Betty and Rhena)!


OKAY. Official "New Beginning" Weight is

199.5 (yes I was blue from holding my breath!! :p)

I'll weigh in again on Friday (yes?)

Don't think I'll get any exercise in to speak of, but I am going to watch what I eat and keep the sugar at bay. My next big demon will be butter. I'm a Julia Child cook and I LOVE my BUTTER. Have you all seen the movie yet? Meryl Streep is perfect.....perfect!! as usual.

Okay. Off to drink a glass of water....

Marguerite
 
My next big demon will be butter. I'm a Julia Child cook and I LOVE my BUTTER. Have you all seen the movie yet? Meryl Streep is perfect.....perfect!! as usual.

Okay. Off to drink a glass of water....

Marguerite

Yes - I saw that movie just after I started my diet. My friends were haviing the usual popcorn fare and I snuck in my salad and ate it right there in the theatre. Anyway back to the movie. I absolutely loved it - even with all the wonderful food shots that made me drool all over myself. Laughter is the best medicine, so I may have to go back for a second viewing soon. Plus I loved all the scenes of Paris. I lived there for three years and it holds a very special place in my heart.:)
 
Yes - I saw that movie just after I started my diet. My friends were haviing the usual popcorn fare and I snuck in my salad and ate it right there in the theatre. Anyway back to the movie. I absolutely loved it - even with all the wonderful food shots that made me drool all over myself. Laughter is the best medicine, so I may have to go back for a second viewing soon. Plus I loved all the scenes of Paris. I lived there for three years and it holds a very special place in my heart.:)

That was a terrific movie! Meryl Streep certainly had Julia Child down. I highly recommend it. Just eat BEFORE the movie. ;)
 
We were watching a funny movie earlier this evening, which was a good thing because I needed the laughs after my PCP called. He called with blood work results. My glucose was 115, my vitamin D was low, my thyroid function was low, and my triglycerides were 174. My cholesterol had improved from last blood work. My glucose has never not been normal. The hypothyroidism was new as well, as was the low vitamin D.

So, I was told not to eat sugar, limit carbohydrates including fruit, consume no juice, and walk every day.

In a few days I will hit the big 50. What a present, huh?

Well my almost constant fatigue and tiredness makes a little more sense now. I'm not meaning this post as a pity party. Just sharing what happened. I have a feeling I will be able to keep going in the right direction with weight loss after treating the hypothyroidism and getting the sugar level back below 100.

Sugar is an addiction for me. I wish I could say differently. This is not even a blip on the radar of health issues represented here, but if you think of it, prayers would be appreciated that I can tolerate a sugarless existence.

Thanks for "listening."
 
We were watching a funny movie earlier this evening, which was a good thing because I needed the laughs after my PCP called. He called with blood work results. My glucose was 115, my vitamin D was low, my thyroid function was low, and my triglycerides were 174. My cholesterol had improved from last blood work. My glucose has never not been normal. The hypothyroidism was new as well, as was the low vitamin D.

So, I was told not to eat sugar, limit carbohydrates including fruit, consume no juice, and walk every day.

In a few days I will hit the big 50. What a present, huh?

Well my almost constant fatigue and tiredness makes a little more sense now. I'm not meaning this post as a pity party. Just sharing what happened. I have a feeling I will be able to keep going in the right direction with weight loss after treating the hypothyroidism and getting the sugar level back below 100.

Sugar is an addiction for me. I wish I could say differently. This is not even a blip on the radar of health issues represented here, but if you think of it, prayers would be appreciated that I can tolerate a sugarless existence.

Thanks for "listening."


Wise,

Not playing doctor here but I have some experience with blood sugar issues.

Was the 115 a fasting blood sugar? If so, that is not a reading that is in the prediabetes range (last I checked anyway -- unless the medical world has lowered the threshold yet again). There is nothing I have read that says you must aim to get your blood sugar always below 100. Did your PCP say that? Did they do an A1C (a three-month average of blood sugar)? That is the most meaningful number.

And if he told you to go completely sugarless, he is full of something besides sugar. Even diabetics do not have to completely forgo sugar; it is a matter of moderation. I have a mountain of literature on this (including fruit to eat and fruit to eat sparingly) if you'd like citations. Of course, I do try to cut down on sugar, and I find Splenda to be a perfectly good substitute -- I use it on my oatmeal, for instance, and it can be used for baking confections as well.

Anyway, hope you can cheer up. I don't know about some of the other things you mentioned, but I think you may have been fed -- so to speak -- excessive alarmism about the glucose. Perhaps you should ask for a referral to a doctor who specializes in blood sugar issues ....

Best wishes....
 
Wise,

Not playing doctor here but I have some experience with blood sugar issues.

Was the 115 a fasting blood sugar? If so, that is not a reading that is in the prediabetes range (last I checked anyway -- unless the medical world has lowered the threshold yet again). There is nothing I have read that says you must aim to get your blood sugar always below 100. Did your PCP say that? Did they do an A1C (a three-month average of blood sugar)? That is the most meaningful number.

And if he told you to go completely sugarless, he is full of something besides sugar. Even diabetics do not have to completely forgo sugar; it is a matter of moderation. I have a mountain of literature on this (including fruit to eat and fruit to eat sparingly) f you'd like citations. Of course, I do try to cut down on sugar, and I find Splenda to be a perfectly good substitute -- I use it on my oatmeal, for instance, and it can be used for baking confections as well.

Anyway, hope you can cheer up. I don't know about some of the other things you mentioned, but I think you may have been fed -- so to speak -- excessive alarmism about the glucose. Perhaps you should ask for a referral to a doctor who specializes in blood sugar issues ....

Best wishes....

Yes it was a fasting blood sugar. He did tell me it was prediabetic. Cindy's previous doctor has told her the same thing. I did not have a high concern over this one reading actually; it was not a three month average. I'm bummed a little by the combo of issues.

It is good to hear that maybe a little piece of cake won't kill me (like that ice cream I had eaten just before the doctor called didn't kill me.) I really do like this doctor and relate well to him. I think he may be overly reactionary. I will do what I can to shed the pounds that have crept up on me since the fall. I do think, only guessing, that treating the hypothydroidism will help a lot with the weight, which should in turn help with the glucose level.

Thanks for the input. I knew you would have good information to share.
 
Okay, I will look for more info tomorrow. But here is a Q and A from American Diabetic Assn on the subject. It does appear that a fasting reading of 115 is considered "prediabetic." A reading of 126 and above is deemed to show one is diabetic:

http://www.diabetes.org/pre-diabetes/faq.jsp

Okay, but my A1Cs are excellent, even though I usually have 100-120 readings when I take it in the morning. There is such a benign thing as "dawn syndrome" in which sometimes one's body produces extra glucose in the early morning/overnight. My point is, this is not dire -- it can be controlled with effort that does not include extremes such as avoiding absolutely all sugar. You may want to get a blood glucose monitor and keep track of your readings.

More later... peace out (as The Chimp says) :):):) (bananas, BTW, are a bit high in natural sugar -- might be better to share some of those with Cooker.)
 
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