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Dadgummit Harry!!!! I'm so sorry to hear of your latest reports. You'll be in my prayers. Keep your sense of humor - laughing is much prefered to crying. And if you and Ross ever do become Scooter Drivers - that's when I don't drive any farther east than the Illinois border.
 
Ooohhh! We Bad...we Really Bad...lol

Ooohhh! We Bad...we Really Bad...lol

ISN'T IT AMAZING WHAT CORRUPTS A MIND LIKE HAVING TO RESORT TO A SCOOTER? LOL LOL LOL I COULD JUST SEE IT...WE CALL OURSELVES THE "SCREAMING SCOOTER BUDS FROM HELL" :D :p :D :p :D SPIDERWIRE ALL THE WAY I SAY!!! LOL HARRYBABY666 :D :D :D

HAVE WHEELS--WILL PEEL RUBBER!!! LOL
 
Karlynn said:
Dadgummit Harry!!!! I'm so sorry to hear of your latest reports. You'll be in my prayers. Keep your sense of humor - laughing is much prefered to crying. And if you and Ross ever do become Scooter Drivers - that's when I don't drive any farther east than the Illinois border.

WHAT!!!!???!!! YOUR NOT GONNA JOIN IN THE "GANG"? :D :D :p :p :D :D THANKS FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT KARLYNN, IT'S BEEN A ROUGH WEEK, BUT I AM REALLY TRYING TO STAY WITH THE HUMOR, AS I HAVE SAID, IT HELPS ME OUT AS I HOPE IT HELPS OTHERS. HARRYBABY666 :D :D :D
 
Harrybaby666 said:
...actually though, I wanted to ask you if the morphine is actually better than the methadone, or does it matter?...

Haven't a clue, although I think it's longer-lasting than other opiates. That's why they give it to junkies to help them stay off heroin - they only need to take one dose a day.

Anyway, morphine and methadone, like heroin and methadone, are cross-tolerant. Which is a fancy way of saying that if you've become addicted to morphine your doc can switch you to methadone without you going into withdrawal.

Are you addicted to morphine? Probably. Are you a junkie? Nope. Too bad the terms "addict" and "addiction" carry so much negative baggage. Junkies give addicts a bad name!

Our bodies' responses to drugs are pretty idiosyncratic, and medicine is actually a pretty primitive science. Within fifty years I imagine folks will be chuckling when they think back to the days that you couldn't just do a simple blood test to determine the best medication for a particular person.

One of the most important things I learned when I was a mental health worker is that determining medication regimens is done on an empirical basis. "Empirical" is a word that docs use to make it sound like they know what they're doing. What it really means is that you try one drug, fool around with the dosage a bit, try another drug, fool around with the dosage a bit, try another, etc., etc., etc. until you figure out through trial-and-error what the best medication regimen is for that individual patient.

Point of all that yattering being that if your current pain med regimen isn't working, tell your doc and he can try something else from his pharmacological bag of tricks 'til the doc and you eventually figure out the optimal regimen for you.
 
THANKS Barry...

THANKS Barry...

I don't think that I am addicted to the morphine yet anyway, as I only take it when I absolutely have to due to other side effects, at least until the epidurals stop working, then I am sure I will be taking more, but I hope not...Thanks for your help on this, and at least if they ever try to switch me to Methadone, I will know what I am up against. Harrybaby666 :D :D :D
 
There's a couple of things I wanted to mention here...

Nancy -
I agree you are wise to disregard the "end of the road" statements. Every day there are new medical advancements and treatments, so what may be impossible to day may not be tomorrow. I think it's important to keep searching for answers, because one day you might just find one!


Harry -
Your PCP is not YOU and is not suffering YOUR pain. Too bad if he thinks you too proactive in your health care!! I've had the same vibe from some of my doctors and I've had to remind them that you don't feel bad for no reason - and it's their job to find out why. If they keep coming to dead ends, then they need to keep looking.

Again, I appreciate what your pain therapist has told you (and how refreshing for someone to be honest with you), but don't give up - you never know when they might have a breakthrough!

Keeping the good thoughts flowing your way.....


Pam -
I have to share my Aunt's story with you (..who is also a Pam, by the way..). She was diagnosed with degenerative disc disease about 8 years ago, which was discovered when she collapsed on the floor in agonising pain and was then hospitalised for a week, during which time she was flat on her back with her head in a neck brace. She was literally paralysed. For 5 years she was in terrible pain (..which I'm sure you can fully relate to..) and could barely walk. In the months following her hospitalisation she required a walking frame to get around and had to lie down several times a day to rest her back.

Anyhoo, she had been seeing one chiropractor through this time - on a very regular basis (weekly, I think...) and he only managed to allevieate her pain very slightly. However - that guy ended up leaving and she was referred to a new chiropractor, who was able to work miracles on her back! He saw her several weeks in a row, then every month, then after about 6 months he told her she had improved so much that she only need see him when she felt "out of sorts".

She has gone from being virtually crippled with pain from degenerative disc disorder to now walking and exercising again with very little pain (..unless she's "overdone" something..).

I guess my point is that just like doctors, there are "good" and "bad" chiropractors and it may be a matter of finding the right one. But then, as you mentioned, it may also depend on how far along the problem is..... it just seems that my Aunt's problem was pretty severe and it worked for her.


Cheers all,
Anna : )
 
And We Need.....

And We Need.....

Ross said:
Hey man, see what you can find in souped up models. I found this thing from the scooter store, but man, we need more mph! :)

http://www.thescooterstore.com/ProductSpec/Scooters/Victory3.asp

All Terain Mag Wheels....Don't forget about those...that way we can really lay a strip, and let them know we mean busines...lol :D :D :D

Here's a site:http://www.hoveround.com/scooters.html This sight seems to have some pretty rad models...they ought to considering they start at $6500.00 :eek: :eek: :eek: Harrybaby
 
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I forgot to mention Ross....

I forgot to mention Ross....

I forgot to mention that we could always hook the scooters up with some nitrous oxide to really speed up the mph...to break-neck speed...LOL :D :D :D Harrybaby
 
Harrybaby666 said:
I forgot to mention that we could always hook the scooters up with some nitrous oxide to really speed up the mph...to break-neck speed...

*shakes head*

You mean to tell me you're going to rice out a scooter?

Aye aye aye.... I thought I had taught you better....

Kids these days....lol.

Seriously, sorry about your news Harry. It does sound like you are taking it in stride...always gotta look on the positive side, even though it is hard to do sometimes....


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Damn Harry...just when you think things couldn't get worse! :(

As for the pain meds, if you're in chonic pain and they can't cure what's causing the pain then your only option is to take pain meds "chronically". This doesn't make you a junkie, it just makes you someone who is dependent on these meds to improve your quality of life. Just remember...you CAN get a DUI for driving your scooter while under the influence...so be careful! ;) :D
 
But Of Course...LOL

But Of Course...LOL

Cort-
Knowing how slow scooters can go, why wouldn't you want to rice one out? LOL But yes, I am trying to keep my sense of humor no matter what...Besides, what's wrong with having 39 year old kids? LOL :D :D :D

Bryan,
Thanks for the support...I was kidding on the part about being a junkie though.....pardon my sick sense of humor......Harrybaby666
:p :D
 
Sounds like you and Ross are planning to be VERY active!

Sounds like you and Ross are planning to be VERY active!

Hi Harry, just wanted to tell you I'm sorry to hear of your latest diagnosis.

As I said in Sherrin's post about her back surgery, my mother just had surgery for spinal stenosis and degenerative disc disease on Mar. 1st. She was in a lot of pain following the surgery, and now has some fluid collecting in her back. I'm hoping things straighten out and she gets back to her normal self. She's always been VERY active...in fact, was riding a scooter in the garage a couple of years ago...not the kind for old people like you and Ross are talking about...the kid's scooter that you stand on and push with one foot :p . She's 73 years old, but I've always told people, "my mother is younger than I am".

As much as I hate to think about it, being that these things are genetic...I may be headed down that road too... :confused:
 
Abbanabba said:
... Too bad if he thinks you too proactive in your health care!! I've had the same vibe from some of my doctors and I've had to remind them that you don't feel bad for no reason - and it's their job to find out why. If they keep coming to dead ends, then they need to keep looking...

As a general rule, physicians have a difficult time with chronicity. They like patients whose owies they can fix - and I don't blame them! At the same time, docs who don't want to listen to their patients really should go into veterinary medicine.
 
Well...Welcome....

Well...Welcome....

Pam Osse said:
The VR Scooter Brigade!!!! I wanna be a member!

I'm pretty positive that with my DDD, arthritis and all the fun joint problems I have, and Mike's AVR, 4 ACL reconstructions (knee replacements down the line), we'll be ready for the sychronized scooter team trials not too far down the road! I can already imagine us trucking down Elkhorn Avenue in Estes mowing down tourists! YEAH! "Get outta my way, I gotta do a figure 8!"

Welcome to the "Scooter Buds From Hell Gang" Pam, the more members the better....we will have to retrofit your scooter with the same nitrous oxide that Ross and I will have, that way we can really mow them down...LOL :p :D :D Now on with the Figure Eights!! LOL :D :D Harrybaby666
 
Barry said:
As a general rule, physicians have a difficult time with chronicity. They like patients whose owies they can fix - and I don't blame them! At the same time, docs who don't want to listen to their patients really should go into veterinary medicine.
Meow!! :D

I guess both Harry and myself have had a hard time getting anyone to provide us a reason as to why we feel as bad as we do. Obviously Harry has just had this recent diagnosis, which goes a long way toward explaining a lot of things, but had he sat back and not bothered his PCP, he'd probably still be wondering what was going on!!

I also feel like I've been in the same boat. Until they can give me a reason for feeling the way I do, they need to keep on looking. If they find a chronic illness (adjacent to the heart issues) then that's all good and well - it's the lack of answers which is frustrating, and if they're going to tell me the "obvious" causes aren't the reason, then they need to find the "not-so-obvious" cause!


....jumping off the soapbox now.... :eek:


Harry -
It's great to see you've still got your sense of humour! Thank goodness the streets are free from scooter-fiends here down-under..... although the town I'm in has a pretty high number of those little motorised buggy things. I thought perhaps I could get one of them for myself! ;) :D


A : )
 
Harrybaby666 said:
Cort-
Knowing how slow scooters can go, why wouldn't you want to rice one out?

I'd rather put a 350 V8 in it.... ;).


Harrybaby666 said:
But yes, I am trying to keep my sense of humor no matter what...Besides, what's wrong with having 39 year old kids?

Absolutely nothing!!! Glad to know you are keeping your sense of humor....it's a very good way to "stay alive" ;).
 
Harry,

I wasn't kidding about the SUI (scootering under the influence). :D

Here's an idea for your scooter. It's kind of a takeoff on Ross's "office", only on wheels:
 
Lol!!

Lol!!

Just get a blue one instead! Remember, blue for boys and pink for girls!! LOL!!
Débora
 
Oh My God Bryan, this is just too funny...LOL

Oh My God Bryan, this is just too funny...LOL

Bryan B said:
Harry,

I wasn't kidding about the SUI (scootering under the influence). :D

Here's an idea for your scooter. It's kind of a takeoff on Ross's "office", only on wheels:

Where do you get your ideas? LOL This is Hilarious.....Harrybaby666 :D :D :D
 
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