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[cldlhd]

I own a shotgun but the NRA represent gun manufacturers not gun owners. A lot of inner cities obviously have neighborhoods with high crime rates so the cities have tough gun laws. However areas not far from the city have very lax gun laws so people make straw purchases, they buy a bunch of guns and sell them to criminals in the city. So when a reasonable law gets proposed like limiting people to buying one gun per day with no added restrictions as to the type of gun the NRA comes out against it. Their argument was " what about Christmas"? For when you want to but granny a bag full of guns-ha! One gun per day means over 700 a year for the wife and I. The gun manufacturers make more money selling more guns to fewer people , like most things it's about money. Most NRA members are against allowing people on the terrorist watch list to buy guns but the NRA isn't. The repubs shot that law down in Congress, Christ if the Democrats voted that way Sean Hannity would have been all aroused and Fox News would have been talking 24 hours a day about how " the liberals sided with the terrorists".
You don't need an NRA sticker they have Viagra now.....

 

[Agian]

Bad joke............BTW, are you one of the NRA "hunters" that needs to carry a 30 round automatic long gun to kill a kangaroo?

No. I'm vegetarian for health (not moral) reasons, so I don't hunt.

 

[dick0236]

.....You don't need an NRA sticker they have Viagra now.....

That is absolutely the funniest quote I've seen.........reminds me of the "men"???? that ride around with BB guns hung up in the rear window of their Ford 150 pick-up truck.

 

[marc_kowal]

Seriously, way off topic here for this post gents. Please take it to PM or another Forum. And before you bash me, I also voted for the lesser of the two schmucks.

 

[Agian]

I own a shotgun but the NRA represent gun manufacturers not gun owners. A lot of inner cities obviously have neighborhoods with high crime rates so the cities have tough gun laws. However areas not far from the city have very lax gun laws so people make straw purchases, they buy a bunch of guns and sell them to criminals in the city. So when a reasonable law gets proposed like limiting people to buying one gun per day with no added restrictions as to the type of gun the NRA comes out against it. Their argument was " what about Christmas"? For when you want to but granny a bag full of guns-ha! One gun per day means over 700 a year for the wife and I. The gun manufacturers make more money selling more guns to fewer people , like most things it's about money. Most NRA members are against allowing people on the terrorist watch list to buy guns but the NRA isn't. The repubs shot that law down in Congress, Christ at the Democrats voted that way Sean Hannity would have been all aroused and Fox News would have been talking 24 hours a day about how " the liberals sided with the terrorists".
You don't need an NRA sticker they have Viagra now.....

I understand the right to bear arms is enshrined in your constitution. It's called the Second Amendment, Sorry, your chosen candidate didn't get to change it, despite Bloomberg's millions. But hey, it's your country.

However, your ideologists would eventually influence what happens here, so I wanted to support my fellow firearms enthusiasts overseas. Don't really need anyone's approval or permission.

My willy works, so I don't need Viagra. Besides, NRA stickers aren't an accepted treatment for erectile problems. Petty.
I'm not saying anymore, we've been told off and I respect my elders and Dick's wisdom and experience. I was raised rIght.

 

[Agian]

Seriously, way off topic here for this post gents. Please take it to PM or another Forum. And before you bash me, I also voted for the lesser of the two schmucks.

No one's going to bash you mate. Yes, it's way off topic, but if you notice a lot of threads go off on tangents. It's called having a conversation. Certain topics are taboo obviously. I guess talking about firearms was the final straw. Meat grows on trees. LOL.

 

[Superman]

Seriously, way off topic here for this post gents. Please take it to PM or another Forum. And before you bash me, I also voted for the lesser of the two schmucks.

I think everyone who voted thinks the same thing.

 

[cldlhd]

Last thing I'll say regarding firearms. Obviously some people are black and white thinkers but I like to think I'm not . If you've read the 2nd amendment it's says "a well regulated state militia" ,the word regulated is in it. I also believe in the right to own a gun but that doesn't mean it's the wild west and any reasonable law means they're coming fer yer guns.

 

[neil]

not real bothered but if people wanna talk politics just start a thread on it, imo I think threads should be kept more or less on topic, I understand it can wander but when most of it is not on subject ? .

 

[dick0236]

Apparently, this all started with my post (#15) and for that I apologize......never thought a bag of popcorn would cause such a furor.

 

[Agian]

Apparently, this all started with my post (#15) and for that I apologize......never thought a bag of popcorn would cause such a furor.

No need to apologise. If people get infuriated by everyday banter, they need to get out more. Like I've said before, we're all friends here and sometimes friends argue (if you call that an argument). I really doubt chldhd is traumatised. I think Neil made a valid point, but sometimes it's nice to imagine I'm in a pub ribbing my mates, over a beer.

".... A dialectic method of historical and philosophical progress that postulates (1) a beginning proposition called a thesis, (2) a negation of that thesis called the antithesis, and (3) a synthesis whereby the two conflicting ideas are reconciled to form a new proposition."

You don't need an NRA sticker they have Viagra now.....

"Bad joke" LMAO; but that's OK, it falls within the acceptable political spectrum.

Did the people walking out and starting a new forum happen before or after the Tsunami?

Guys, a lot of us have been through hell, and I would have thought a bit of good natured carry-on might have been a distraction. Bloody hell, what a racket. Where's the humour? Yeah, cultural differences.

 

[pellicle]

....BTW, are you one of the NRA "hunters" that needs to carry a 30 round automatic long gun to kill a kangaroo?

Australia is most certainly not the USA ... In Australia such things are the domain of the army and are banned for civilian use. I've never known anyone who has such a "desire" and everyone I know who hunts or shoots has a bolt action or a lever action rifle. Normally 3 or 5 shots is the limit for magazines.

We have no concept of "rights" to own a gun, its a privilege that requires you to be assessed as a "fit and proper person" and have completed safety training. Much like it is here in Finland too.

I guess its hard for Australians to grasp (what seems like madness to most of us) how the USA operates its gun laws. We have (and many of us are proud of) a well regulated system of administering guns. Hanging them from a rack in your loung room is forbidden as is having them visible in the car or "Pickup" (which we call a ute). They must be in a secured locked steel box or in the locked boot out of sight. We don't tolerate the "home defence" views of gun ownership and concealable weapons are only registered to members of pistol clubs or law enforcement officers. There is no "open carry" for the public.

... just so you know how it is. I expect the situation in the USA causes a lot more vexation than it does in Australia, although the fever of that anxiety does seem to be spreading by media to Australia too, where people often don't have the faintest clue how our system works either.

 

[neil]

no need to apologise dick at all, my point is people come on here to talk or discuss valve stuff and join to find out things, if a thread has the title mech valves or tissue valves you would expect to to be in large about that, I have no problem whatsoever in people talking about politics sex religion cars holidays etc in fact its great, just think maybe start a thread for unrelated valve issues and then we know where to go, or maybe am just getting old and cranky lol

 

[cldlhd]

I'm certainly not traumatized. Pellicle what you describe seems like a reasonable system but you can't have a conversation about it here as paranoia has been fostered. Certainly there are people who would like to take all the guns away , you could find somebody who supports almost anything but I think the vast majority of what I would call sane people believe a non-criminal who doesn't suffer from serious mental problems should be able to own a gun in the United States. It doesn't mean they should be able to own any kind of gun or carry it anywhere but I know a lot of people if you suggest that to them they will automatically call you a communist ,even though I doubt they know what a communist is.

 

[dick0236]

Goes to show there are issues, other than mechanical vs tissue, that can bring out the passion in people......and we have very little chance of resolving any on this forum........so lets go back to playing in our own sandbox......and answer the fears of the new folks. After all, we absolutely do know a little about OHS. PEACE!!

 

[neil]

spot on dick, as I said no problem with talking about other things just start a thread on whatever you want, but for people looking for advice lets try to keep it on track imo, maybe we just getting old dick eh,

 

[Agian]

spot on dick, as I said no problem with talking about other things just start a thread on whatever you want, but for people looking for advice lets try to keep it on track imo, maybe we just getting old dick eh,

Neil, I think the implication was don't talk about it at all, even on a seperate thread. There is nothing wrong with being passionate. Anger is a normal human emotion, it's what we do with it that may become an issue.

I actually like Obama. If you read the post it was obvious I was taking the piss. Every household in Switzerland has an automatic weapon. They do their military service and take it home with them. And yet... The 'guns' aren't the problem.

The US owes China over a trillion dollars. That's not politics, that's fact. So all this anti-China baloney is hot air. You can't learn everything by watching TV.

Honourary Canadian loves a good debate. The people who got offended were those who weren't part of it. Chill, it's all good.

 

[DougWyndham]

I think it's a personal choice. I chose mechanical after discussion with my brilliant surgeon Dr Janangula and must admit I chose it as I don't think Id agree to another OHS . I also have grown rather fond of the Granfather timepiece sound when it's quieter. I'm ok on Warfarin with the infrequent hassle of nicking myself and having to mop up a bit longer

 

[Agian]

Australia is most certainly not the USA ... In Australia such things are the domain of the army and are banned for civilian use. I've never known anyone who has such a "desire" and everyone I know who hunts or shoots has a bolt action or a lever action rifle. Normally 3 or 5 shots is the limit for magazines.

We have no concept of "rights" to own a gun, its a privilege that requires you to be assessed as a "fit and proper person" and have completed safety training. Much like it is here in Finland too.

I guess its hard for Australians to grasp (what seems like madness to most of us) how the USA operates its gun laws. We have (and many of us are proud of) a well regulated system of administering guns. Hanging them from a rack in your loung room is forbidden as is having them visible in the car or "Pickup" (which we call a ute). They must be in a secured locked steel box or in the locked boot out of sight. We don't tolerate the "home defence" views of gun ownership and concealable weapons are only registered to members of pistol clubs or law enforcement officers. There is no "open carry" for the public.

... just so you know how it is. I expect the situation in the USA causes a lot more vexation than it does in Australia, although the fever
of that anxiety does seem to be spreading by media to Australia too, where people often don't have the faintest clue how our system works either.

The gun-grabbers want more, Pel. Obama invited Professor Alpers to the US to talk about the 'Australian Solution'. Alpers started his career as an environmentalist, but there was no money in it. So, he joined the anti-gun brigade. He must be the only Australian professor without a degree. Law-abiding citizens with firearms aren't murderers. Throughout our history it has been assumed we are allowed to defend ourselves. I won't need a gun to defend my home and family. Some douche living off my taxes runs out of money for his drugs, breaks into my house, threatens my kids and if I lay a finger on him, he gets a payout. Oh, and it's not his fault because he had a 'troubled childhood'. A quarter of my family was murdered. Someone puts a knife to my wife's throat, I will kill them.

They bang on about the evil guns, to distract folks from the real problems, and some kid with a BB gun is less of a man. Like you said, anyone who eats meat needs to spend some time in an abattoir.

 

[cldlhd]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912