Ross i didn't want to hijack the other thread, i was wonderring if you have heard anything more on the sewer situation, have they officially decided if yu can extend? and this may be a stretch, but sometimes the county jails, have a program were the better behaved/no dangerous prisoners will go do home repairs, yard work ect for orgs like churches or families that just can't afford it. the prisoners volenteer since it beat hanging out in jail all day and do good work since they want to be allowed this privlidge in the future. Maybe this is something you could look into,(I would call the county jail) of course specifying the prisoner that caused some of your more recent problems isn't allowed, but he doesn't strike me s the kind of person that would be eligable to begin w/. Lyn