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I have done much research on this subject for my own 13 yr. old son. Dr. Stelzer does not take pediatric cases, but he highly recommends Dr. Quaegebeur. Either Dr. Quaegebeur or Dr. Bove of Michagan will be our choice when the time comes. The very best of luck to you and your son.
 
Hi Ion and Everybody,

I am 43yrs old (2 years and 363 days post RP). I started jogging on my 2yr anniversary and yesterday I ran my 1000th mile. My weight has dropped to and stayed at 172, the same as when I graduated high school. My medications consist of an asprin and a multi-vitamin each day. A scar is the only reminder that I even had a surgery.

My mother died on the table during her third OHS in 10yrs for her St. Jude. The combined long term effect of a. Coumadin b. Insulin due to Adult Onset Diabetes c. High Blood Pressure Medications and d. two previous OHS left her heart muscle in a state that the perfusionist described as "gelatin oozing blood". One aspect of mechanical valves that tends to be overlooked is the fact that as we age other health problems may arise that may compound/interfere with the use of coumadin.

(I know that everyone is different. And, once the surgery is completed, we do not want to hear pros or cons about the choice that we may have made. But, the Ross has worked out so well for me after my mother's disaster that I feel a need to cheerlead for Dr. Ross' creation.)

My surgeon gave me the choice of mech. bovine or ross. For me the only choice was Ross. There was no way that I was going with the current generation of mechanical and I feel I am too young to wear a cow.
 
Citations, Please

Citations, Please

Brad, you wrote, "I definitely know patients who have had their ross's done by one of the "big" Ross surgeons (elkins, stelzer (sp?)) and have had miserable results."

Can you please provide some citations for this statement? Or names and phone numbers? ;) I'm chatting with Stelzer about a Ross, and have done a fair amount or research, but I'm not hearing much about miserable results.

I'd definitely like to know about these negative outcomes as I make my decision about a surgery/surgeon.

thanks.
 
What did your research show?

What did your research show?

StretchL said:
Brad, you wrote, "I definitely know patients who have had their ross's done by one of the "big" Ross surgeons (elkins, stelzer (sp?)) and have had miserable results."

Can you please provide some citations for this statement? Or names and phone numbers? ;) I'm chatting with Stelzer about a Ross, and have done a fair amount or research, but I'm not hearing much about miserable results.

I'd definitely like to know about these negative outcomes as I make my decision about a surgery/surgeon.

thanks.

I would interested if your chats with Dr. Stelzer included asking HIM if he has
had any "miserable results." There is nothing like getting it "straight from the
horse?s month." Seems to me, that fair research should ask about successes and failures.
 
Curmudgeony Curmudgeon

Curmudgeony Curmudgeon

RCB said:
I would interested if your chats with Dr. Stelzer included asking HIM if he has
had any "miserable results." There is nothing like getting it "straight from the
horse?s month." Seems to me, that fair research should ask about successes and failures.

You've been around this forum for much longer than I, and you had your first valve put in before I was even born. So I guess you're entitled to be a curmudgeon, but you seem to be looking for an argument- one that I'm not going to get into with you.

If someone makes an a priori statement like Brad's, especially one that contrasts so clearly with what is posted online in scientific and medical journals and also reported by many physicians and patients anecdotally, its completely fair to ask for citations or references.

I've spoken with Dr. Selzer only twice (both by phone, both today and for about 2 hrs total). He was very gracious and giving of his time. Frankly, I was surprised that he would take time to call me. I can't even get that kind of attention from my primary care physician.

He seemed to be honest and forthcoming about his experience with the RP. He spoke about successes and failures as well as about at least one surgery when he could not perform the Ross once he got into a chest due to an anyuerism no one expected to see.

If there is a significant population of RP patients with "miserable results", then I damned sure want to hear about them. If there are a couple, or three, or half a dozen, out of the nearly 400 done by Stelzer and scores more done by Elkins, then that's to be expected, unfortunately.

Either way, a statement about "miserable results", not backed up by readily available references, or even a hint of what constitutes "miserable" (I guess it's in the eye of the beholder), demands further explanation.
 
Don't you just love it...

Don't you just love it...

StretchL said:
You've been around this forum for much longer than I, and you had your first valve put in before I was even born. So I guess you're entitled to be a curmudgeon, but you seem to be looking for an argument- one that I'm not going to get into with you.

If someone makes an a priori statement like Brad's, especially one that contrasts so clearly with what is posted online in scientific and medical journals and also reported by many physicians and patients anecdotally, its completely fair to ask for citations or references.

I've spoken with Dr. Selzer only twice (both by phone, both today and for about 2 hrs total). He was very gracious and giving of his time. Frankly, I was surprised that he would take time to call me. I can't even get that kind of attention from my primary care physician.

He seemed to be honest and forthcoming about his experience with the RP. He spoke about successes and failures as well as about at least one surgery when he could not perform the Ross once he got into a chest due to an anyuerism no one expected to see.

If there is a significant population of RP patients with "miserable results", then I damned sure want to hear about them. If there are a couple, or three, or half a dozen, out of the nearly 400 done by Stelzer and scores more done by Elkins, then that's to be expected, unfortunately.

Either way, a statement about "miserable results", not backed up by readily available references, or even a hint of what constitutes "miserable" (I guess it's in the eye of the beholder), demands further explanation.

When somebody says "I'm not going to get into with you." and then they proceed to do exactly what they said they wouldn't do!:D :D

It seem only fair to me that what is "good for the goose, is good for the gander". If you ask for a citation of personal details (phone number, etc.) then it is only fair the one should be able to ask the same questions of you of your "fair research".:rolleyes:

It seems to me that VR.com members have a right to post their personal opinion about their surgery, even if it is a variance with "what is posted online in scientific and medical journals and also reported by many physicians and patients anecdotally." That is what we do here. What we
don't do is give out "....names and phone numbers" to anyone who "demands further explanation."

At least, I am honest about being a curmudgeon (4 heart valve surgeries in
46 years would do that to anyone- some assume that role even faster;) :p )-
what's your excuse?:D :D :D
 
It's still your choice ...

It's still your choice ...

Ion & Ibasar

I too am the owner of an RP. Had mine done in October of 2003. I wasn't familiar with this site until AFTER my surgery. Looking back, maybe that was best for me. By nature, I procrastinate. I can and do, still make mountains out of mole hills. If I had all of this information or suggestions to sort through myself, it would be overwhelming.

I was a very active person before my surgery. My two big symptoms before surgery were not being able to perform physical activity as long as "normal" people and retaining fluids in my legs. I had known about my genetic problem after a motorcycle accident when I was 16. Learned then that someday I would need surgery. At 40, the time came. I trusted the cardiologist I had been seeing for over twenty years when it came time to pick a surgeon and location to have it done. I was given all the different options along with the pro's & con's of each. It obviously took a toll on me by wanting to pick or choose the "best" option. Sitting here today knowing everything I know now; I'm not sure what the best option is and I personally don't think anyone else does either.

At the end of the day, you have to have faith and trust in the doctors you are seeing. Nobody on this planet can guarantee that you won't ever have to have another surgery regardless of the choice you make. Each option available to you carries with it pro"s & con's. If as you move forward you're gut tells you to see another doctor, then do it. Do what ever you have to do, but do it.

I'm the kind of person who could hear 99 people say that their particular valve choice was the best decision they ever made ... then 1 person could tell me that they wish they would have done it differently. Who do you think I would listen more closely to? That one person. I'd then turn it into a huge deal and get off track on what I'm trying to accomplish ... and that's getting better.

My decision on choosing the RP was this simple ... I wanted to feel and be normal with no restrictions. My surgeon recommend the Ross and I went with it. That's it. I didn't have tons of facts and figures or books to sway me one way or the other. Some will say that one choice will require a re-do down the road, etc. My thoughts are, who knows for sure? My heart tells me that only one person knows for sure and that's God ... and he ain't telling.

I guess I learned through this whole process that I need to trust others and have some faith in power greater than myself. I certainly have responsibilities in this too, but I'm certainly not in total control. Knowing what I know today and feeling the way I do; if confronted with having to make a choice on the way to go ... I'd do it the exact same way again. How's that for some more confusion? :)

I wish you both the best of luck. Trust your doctors and your gut then focus on getting better.

Paul
 
Stretch,

I am certainly not going to divulge names or phone numbers of individuals who have messaged me on a private basis about their experieces. In fact, I find the request absurd. "Anecdotes" about the Ross are almost always positive (as you said), perhaps because people with negative outcomes are hesitant to share their experiences. Why? I feel that pro-RP people are very defensive of any criticism of the procedure. Not everyone wants to deal with the scrutiny that comes from posting a negative RP outcome.

I gave a link to the Ross Registry and gave my interpretation of that data. Others may intepret it differently.

I attributed a quote to Dr. Naser Ammash at the Mayo Clinic in the Adult Congenital Heart Disease Clinic. Finding his contact information wouldn't be difficult if you feel the need to contact him.

I don't think that what I said runs opposite of "what is posted online in scientific and medical journals." If you look at the outcome of RP studies done (using PubMed) you see that a certain percentage of RPs result in failure. Many of these failures are in patients with what appears to be an underlying connective tissue disorder. I never claimed that the percentage of RP failures was huge. My only point was that they happen and many surgeons are now more conservative in determing who is a good candidate for the RP because of these failures.

Brad
 
Thanks, Brad

Thanks, Brad

Hi, Brad. I appreciate your note, and the time you took to write it.

I didn't know we were talking about miserable outcomes from the Ross for people with connective tissue disorder. It seems to be a given that no one with Mafrans or some other sort of CTD should have a Ross. I may have missed that part of your post. I thought you were referring to the general population of AVR candidates.

I've unsuccessfully tried to access the Ross Registry several times. The domain has expired and it's not been renewed.

Everything I've read says that the Ross is a very technically demanding surgery with a steep learning curve. The experience of the surgeon with the RP seems to be proportional to the rate of success, at least in the short and mid-terms. There are no long term studies past 10 years post op, although Stelzer told me the other day that he's hoping to publish a paper on 20 year outcomes next Spring.

While I may get in touch with Dr. Ammash and see what he has to say, I have no interest in someone who does one or two of these a year cutting into my chest. Stelzer did #395 and 396 a few weeks ago, and he does them every few weeks. That's the kind of experience I want if I opt for the RP. ...or any other valve replacement, for that matter.

The questions I have concern the statement in your original post that:

Bradley White said:
I definitely know patients who have had their ross's done by one of the "big" Ross surgeons (elkins, stelzer (sp?)) and have had miserable results.
Brad

Of course I wasn't expecting you to post names and phone numbers on this forum (notice the winky face I used when asking that question?) But I am very curious to know how many of Stelzer's patients you've talked with
who have had miserable results, what those results were, when the surgeries were done, etc.

Thanks again for your time.
 
Dear Stretch,

I did not know that the Ross Registry domain had expired. Makes me wonder if the data they were posting was up to date if they can't even keep up their domain name. So perhaps my interpretations were misguided.

Here's my point with connective tissue disorders: Of course, no one recommends the Ross for obvious CTD cases. The problem is cases where underlying CTD may not be obvious. I don't believe that it is always cut and dry as to whether someone's poor valve performance may be related to a CTD. Although I do believe the medical profession is becoming more and more aware of the "causes" behind aortic valve dieases.

I know of one person who has had to face a complex re-operation after getting a Ross from Stelzer within five years of the original procedure. Otherwise, I have heard only good things about him and I agree with you that you should definitely go with a surgeon who has signficant experience due to the demanding technical nature of the procedure. Dr Ammash is not a surgeon so I certainly wouldn't recommend him!:) He just told me that they had seen hundreds of failed Rosses at the Mayo Clinic and that they only do a few per year there. Whether this number was exaggeratied to make me feel better, I don't know. Obviously, Mayo is biased against the Ross since only people with Bad Rosses would go there for treatment. They would not know about all the success cases out there. Finally, as you probably know, the Ross has not worked out well for me at all. This has, of course, negatively influenced my opinion on the subject. I wish you the bust of luck in your decision and surgery.

Brad
 
hi stretch! hi brad!
i'm sure there have been those with rp's who haven't done exactly as they had hoped they would do, but by the same token this happens with tissue and mechanical valve surgeries as well.

i think the basic point here is that if/when one decides to have the surgery, it has to be THEIR choice that works for THEM_ very, very personal.
there is no right or wrong choice here.

when joey went in to have his surgery, we asked dr. stelzer how many patients he had "lost". he told us that there was one at the time and he was a bit older than his average rp patient and that was what he attributed complications to.
joey, in 2001, was his 304th ross and we felt very comfortable with him and trusted him.
in the end, i feel that this is what it really boils down to.

ION & IBASAR,
pappahappystar (burair) had his rp done by dr. quaggabeur (sp?) who is know for his talents with pediatric heart surgeries, specifically rp's and tga.
i would definitely recommend meeting with him. especially if he travels to europe.

hope you all stay well,
sylvia
 
hi stretch,
joey is doing well, running up to 6 miles several times a week. on other days, he does the elliptical or the bike for an hour or so.
he's had some bouts with afib (has had them all along, pre- and post-surgery) and is still on a small dose of amiodarone.
we are going to look into a "mini-maze" procedure, which his cardio recommended as an option.
we had consulted with a doc at montefiore who specializes in ablation, but at the time he felt that joey was not a good candidate, because the amiodarone (at the small dose he takes) seems to be taking care of the problem.
he felt that ablation should be used as almost a last resort.

all in all, i can only say that we are happy with the results.... i count my blessings every day and truly have made the time to "smell each and every rose".
life is a gift.

be well,
sylvia
 
Ross procedure contemplations

Ross procedure contemplations

Welcome to the forum, Mr Molena -

Just so you have one other datapoint, I will submit my response to your questions.

On rationale: Back then (1999), I was a full time cyclist diagnosed with a severely insufficient bicuspid aorta, and held a strong hope to have a surgery that would be as close as possible to what a normal heart valve would be, with similar flow characteristics. An autograft from my own live tissue did seem to fit that bill. The other tissue valves were not so well known to me at the time. I was briefed on a porcine valve, but the one that my cardiologist knew about did not have very good longevity. I think the ones you see these days like the St. Jude Stentless Torronto, or the C/E pericardial were still fairly new back then and there wasn't as much info on them. My cardiologist never recommended the Ross (had to find that one out myself). He only recommended a mechanical valve and said Warfarin was not a huge deal: "It's just a bit stronger than aspirin." Thankfully, he retired later that year.

As for statistical citations to support my decision, I do not have any of that info handy. I did have some "loose" knowledge collected from the internet that seemed to indicate that the ross procedure had at least a potential for good longevity (some places were saying 20+ years). At the time, I was almost singularly focused on racing and therefore was concerned about performance.

Postop status was fair. My pulmonic autograft ended up not fitting terribly well, and there was marked insufficiency in the aortic position. Over the years, with my activity level, it grew worse, and today, I'm actually shopping around for a sawbones to replace this valve, and the pulmonic homograft which has stenosed. I will be going with a bioprosthesis of some sort in the aortic, and another homograft in the pulmonic.

Best of luck in your deliberations.
 
mitchner9g said:
Welcome to the forum, Mr Molena -

Just so you have one other datapoint, I will submit my response to your questions.

On rationale: Back then (1999), I was a full time cyclist diagnosed with a severely insufficient bicuspid aorta, and held a strong hope to have a surgery that would be as close as possible to what a normal heart valve would be, with similar flow characteristics. An autograft from my own live tissue did seem to fit that bill. The other tissue valves were not so well known to me at the time. I was briefed on a porcine valve, but the one that my cardiologist knew about did not have very good longevity. I think the ones you see these days like the St. Jude Stentless Torronto, or the C/E pericardial were still fairly new back then and there wasn't as much info on them. My cardiologist never recommended the Ross (had to find that one out myself). He only recommended a mechanical valve and said Warfarin was not a huge deal: "It's just a bit stronger than aspirin." Thankfully, he retired later that year.

As for statistical citations to support my decision, I do not have any of that info handy. I did have some "loose" knowledge collected from the internet that seemed to indicate that the ross procedure had at least a potential for good longevity (some places were saying 20+ years). At the time, I was almost singularly focused on racing and therefore was concerned about performance.

Postop status was fair. My pulmonic autograft ended up not fitting terribly well, and there was marked insufficiency in the aortic position. Over the years, with my activity level, it grew worse, and today, I'm actually shopping around for a sawbones to replace this valve, and the pulmonic homograft which has stenosed. I will be going with a bioprosthesis of some sort in the aortic, and another homograft in the pulmonic.

Best of luck in your deliberations.

Mitch, I had my Ross in November of 2003 and I'm hanging with the pack on my road bike with little problem. I do seem to require a bit more sleep than I did before but not sure that is due to the Ross. How long were you post op before you started degrading?
 
chilihead said:
Mitch, I had my Ross in November of 2003 and I'm hanging with the pack on my road bike with little problem. I do seem to require a bit more sleep than I did before but not sure that is due to the Ross. How long were you post op before you started degrading?

hi there, chilihead - well i never felt quite the same afterwards, actually. the autograft always had at least moderate regurgitation, plus my head wasn't in the game to be a cat II anymore. but the autograft degraded over time, we tracked it with yearly echos. hearts are able to compensate for insufficiency up to a point. i began to notice a definite slow-down in my exercise capacity only within the last 6 months or so. my recent cardio test confirmed how i was feeling with severe regurgitation and a bad ejection fraction.

during my rehab while i was trying to get back to the same level, i made an uninformed mistake of doing heavy resistance training. it's a typical part of an off season program, but a bad move for a valve patient! this caused the biggest jump in the progression of my aortic insufficiency over one winter i think.

anyway, enjoy the bike, i'm bumming to be on the mend over the summer but am hoping to be back on the saddle in time for cyclocross season here in the bay area. later,
 
I just had my RP on the 17th, came home yesterday and am very happy I had it. All I can add to this conversation is do your research. Don't listen to one doctor, or website, listen to them all and do make your own decision. I'mm copying and pasting my own personal cheet-sheet that lead me to my decision. My discussions with my surgeone were very clear however: I was to have the RP only if a pulmonary homograft was available as the results I gathered clearly showed much more favorable results vs. aortic, and porcine/bovice. Go human or go home was my motto.

I am a congenital bicuspid valve case and both my surgeons said that the "theory" that BAV patients all had some other sort of connective tissue disorder was nothing more than a theory, and evidence was starting to trend away from it. Either way, they said if there was evidence of this they would not do the Ross.

Anyway here are my notes. I am glad I went with the RP

A long-term report in Circulation by Chambers et al. [8] in London with a collaboration by Ross reports that the pulmonary homograft was free of replacement 69% at 25 years; the autograft was free of replacement 88% at 10 years and 75% at 20 years.

8. Chambers JC, Somerville J, Stone S, Ross DN: Pulmonary autograft procedure for aortic valve disease, long term results of the pioneer series. Circulation 1997, 96:2206-2214

Thus the patient implanted with a mechanical aortic valve continues to run some long term risks of either a stroke or major bleeding episode in the range of 4 to 8% (combined) per year. Despite several generations of new valve materials and designs, the risk of these adverse events over time has not been reduced significantly.

Xenograft (animal tissue) valves usually begin to degenerate within 8 to 10 years after implantation. Within 15 years, over 30% of tissue valve recipients will need another valve replacement operation. In patients less than 60 years of age, the degenerative process occurs more quickly. In patients less than 40 years of age, animal tissues valves may degenerate within 5 years of implantation.

Most studies now indicate that a patient surviving more than 10 years after valve replacement surgery is better off with a mechanical replacement than a porcine or bovine tissue valve, even despite the added problems of chronic Coumadin®.

The freedom from reoperation for recipients of a pulmonary homograft was 83% at 18 years [Ross 1996].

At 20 years, only 15% of patients required another valve operation, usually replacement of the homograft reconstruction of the right ventricle [Ross 1996]. Patient survival at 18 years is an impressive 70%, making this operation superior to all other forms of aortic valve or root reconstruction.

In summary, there are many unique advantages to consider when recommending the Ross operation for patients with aortic valve disease, including:
Virtual absence of anticoagulation
Virtual absence of late thromboembolism (clots, strokes)
Absence transvalvar gradients (< 30 mmHg in every case)
Highly resistant to endocarditis.
Superior long term durability in the aortic position.
Low reoperation rate (15% at 20 years).
Documented growth after Ross operation when performed in children.
No sudden valve failures or sudden death from aortic valve malfunction.
The only aortic valve replacement made from living, viable tissue.
No possibility of rejection by the recipient (of the pulmonary autotransplant)
Low failure rate in the pulmonary homograft replacement.
Replacement of a failed pulmonary homograft is much lower risk than a redo aortic valve.
Improved safety (and long term durability) in women of child bearing age.


Analysis of the data, however, does reveal that premature failure of the homograft is much more common when human aortic tissue was used in the right side reconstruction, as opposed to human pulmonary tissue. There was only a 74% freedom from reoperation at 5 years when aortic homografts were used for the right ventricular reconstruction. However, there is a 94% freedom from reoperation at 5 years (and 83% at 20 years) when a pulmonary homograft is implanted into the right ventricular outflow tract. The reasons for this dramatic difference are not known. However, the pulmonic valve and supporting structures appears to be more tolerant, and possible less antigenic.


In summary, the major disadvantages of this operation for the surgical treatment of aortic valve disease are outlined below.
Lengthy operative times (over 2 and 1/2 hours to complete the repair)
Technically more demanding on the surgeons skills.
Cannot be used in every patient (such as those with Marfans syndrome or other connective tissue disorders)
Cannot be effectively combined with other valve operations or coronary bypass (due to the lengthy operative times required).
Limitations in availability of appropriate sized pulmonary homografts for replacing the donor site (particularly in children).
Theoretically converts a single valve patient to a double valve patient.
The main advantages of the pulmonary autotransplant (as compared with a prosthetic valve implant) are:
No artificial material is used for the "new" aortic valve.
All reconstructions are done with natural materials.
The crucial aortic valve reconstruction is performed entirely with the patients own pulmonary valve.
No matter the size of the patient, a gradient free aortic valve reconstruction can be obtained.
The only natural, potentially curative replacement for the aortic valve in small children or infants.
In growing children, the autotransplant is the only aortic valve replacement that provides a living, viable graft which will grow as the child grows.
The patients pulmonary valve is the right size and always available as a sterile graft.
The autotransplant is not rejected (since it comes from the patients own tissues),
No blood thinners are required
The autotransplant is noiseless (unlike most mechanical valves).
Patients can participate in any level of physical exertion they desire, including professional sports.
The current operative morbidity and mortality rates are very low, and nearly equal to prosthetic valve implants.


Currently, the Ross procedure is recommended primarily for patients with aortic valve disease and no other major cardiac problem. Within this group, the pulmonary autotransplant is an excellent choice for patients...
Who are less than 55 years of age (at the time of anticipated surgery) ... and ..
Who have a life expectancy of 20 years or more ... or ...
Who have a definate contraindication to anticoagulation, such as a history of bleeding . (regardless of age)
Woman of childbearing years
No other major cardiac lesion needing correction (multivessel coronary disease, mitral disease) except ascending aneurysm or mild to moderate root dilatation.
The following conditions are considered relative contraindications to using the pulmonary autotransplant procedure...
Coronary Artery Disease (due to the length of operation and limited life expectancy concerns).
Simultaneous mitral valve disease requiring surgical correction.
Obesity (medical comorbidity plus added operative risk).
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (C.O.P.D) or Emphysema.
Marfans' syndrome (since pulmonary valve is also affected).
Connective tissue disorders (Systemic Lupus Erythematosis (SLE, Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA) since they can also affect the pulmoary valve).
Any structural abnormality of the pulmonic valve (as evidenced by preoperative exam or echocardiogram).


Postoperative patient survival at 20 years is an impressive 70% overall, making this operation the ideal choice for younger patients with aortic valve disease, or anyone with an anticipated life expectancy of more than 20 years following surgery.

More than 2 decades following surgery, only 15% of patients required any additional valve procedures and most of these were replacement of the right ventricular reconstruction, not the aortic substitute. Fortunately, it is easier and less morbid to replace the right ventricular substitute. Follow-up of recent Ross cases where a human pulmonary artery homograft was initially used to reconstruct the right ventricular outflow tract has shown a remarkable freedom from failure (94% at 5 years, 83% at 20 years).

The final concern I addressed was turning a single valve patient into a double valve patient. The way my surgeons explained it, the majority of reoperations for RP's are on the pulmonary side, not the aortic, which is a much simpler valve to replace and does not even require a "good" valve. By the time I have to have it replaced it will likely be done via catheter.

Good luck with your decision either way.

Cheers,

Rob
Born 10/6/75 - Bicuspid Aortic Valve
Aortic Vavlulotomoy 1978
Severe aortic regurgitation, aortic stenosis
5/17/06 - Ross Procedure - 26mm pulmonary homograft- Dr. Ross and Dr. MacArthur - University of Alberta Hospital
 
stenosis or insufficiency

stenosis or insufficiency

Hi everyone,
I have the impression that most Ross failures mentioned in this forum have aortic insufficiency. Is there a difference between the surgical outcomes of patients with aortic insufficiency compared to those with stenosis?
In Cleveland and Mayo Clinics only a few Ross procedures are performed each year. This is really interesting. If they don't believe in Ross, why do they offer it to some patients. Perhaps these patients are in the paediatric age group for whom Ross procedure is a must, rather than a choice. Or, may be there is a 'super ideal condition!' for which even Ross opponents agree that Ross is indicated.
And a question to Tom F. ( if he is still on the line). Tom, I guess your problem was insufficiency, am I right?. And did Dr. Sletzer use an additional material for the repair? ( e.g your own pericardium). I am asking this because we have been recently offered a repair procedure by using pericardial tissue.
Regards
ibasar
 
Thanks Destinova!

Thanks Destinova!

This was a really encouraging post for me Destinova - I am scheduled for AVR in 14 days <sigh>, and my 1st choice is the Ross. My Surgeon is Dr. William Ryan in Dallas. I hopw to have the same positive results as you and to lead a reasonably normal life afterwards...

The thing I most struggle with is that I am not really having any significant symptoms; therefore, I feel like I am risking my life with surgery too soon when perhaps it is not yet necesary.

Anyway, Thanks Again for your post!

-Robert
 
robertr said:
...
The thing I most struggle with is that I am not really having any significant symptoms; therefore, I feel like I am risking my life with surgery too soon when perhaps it is not yet necesary.
...

Hi robertr - This is an important item to settle with your doctors. Have you shared this perspective with them yet? Not sure the reasoning for your particular surgery, but in the case of aortic insufficiency, I've been told by doctors that the heart can compensate for a pretty high degree of regurgitation before the patient feels symptoms. But this overcompensation can still be harmful, especially to the left ventricle. I'm not assuming that that is your situation, but it's best to have some clarification by the ones in the know. Or if you have the ability, find and unrelated cardiologist to have a look at your echo. There's time still and you might have some peace of mind from the exercise.

Just a thought. Best of luck in your coming two weeks!
 
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