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Regarding Flying: My path to anti-coagulation was a bit different because I was on warfarin long before my mechanical valve. It was first for blood clots (one went to my lungs) and later on it was for AFIB. But until I retired a couple years ago, I was regularly flying 100k miles/year. If anything, I figured the warfarin made me less susceptible to Deep Vein Thrombosis which can be caused by extensive immobility. I never had an issue and never worried a bit about the flying, before or after the valve. That is just my experience/perspective. I actually do not enjoy travelling much so I am glad to only board a plane about once a year now!

Nothing to do with the valve, but while I'm typing I'll share a funny. To monitor for an arrhythmia I had to wear something similar to a holter monitor for a week. Lead wires all over my chest that connected to a small device located at about the bottom of the sternum that sent the data wirelessly. I passed through a couple airports that week, disrobing and explaining again and again. Well, I find it humorous to think about now . . . it wasn't all that funny that week!
 
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What DOES happen to your valve when you fly?
nothing ... it continues to operate. Its in a sealed (well I hope) tube filled with liquid.

There are no bubbles.

I've done several long haul flights and the worst I get is a sore neck from those seats.

Take Ear Plugs!!
 
I may not have made the 100K miles lately, but I have made many air trips in the 10 years I've had my valve. I've flown domestic short hops and trans-oceanic flights from The States to Europe and back. Absolutely no issues with the valve.

Now, the pacemaker. . . different situation. Normally I request a pat-down, explaining why. No real issue, just more drama, delay and confusion at the security checkpoint.
 
"...Lead wires all over my chest that connected to a small device located at about the bottom of the sternum that sent the data wirelessly. I passed through a couple airports that week, disrobing and explaining again and again."

Hahaha. Yeah, those security dudes at the airport have absolutely no sense of humor anymore.

But thanks for 'the funny'. It's so weird how as the surgery date gets closer, I need more and more to laugh. :)
 
Hahaha. Yeah, those security dudes at the airport have absolutely no sense of humor anymore.
you have no idea how much tongue damage I've had to endure from my teeth when some dodo at security asks "what have you got in your bag" after its been through the X-Ray ... happily that hasn't happened for a long time
 
Nothing happens to your valve when you fly or for that matter anything else including sky diving and scuba diving even if you are using warfarin for a mechanical valve. Moving about on an airplane is suggested to minimize the risk of a Pulmonary embolism which forms in the leg veins and may occur more frequently when one is very sedentary and not moving around, hence get up and move around occasionally. Interestingly the treatment for thromboembolism from the legs is anti coagulation. So if you are on warfarin you are pre treated for a PE.
Basically the main thing to avoid on anticoagulation with a mechanical valve is hitting your head.
First surgery 43 years ago with pig aortic valve replaced with mechanical 37 years ago and then new valve and aorta 15 years ago. Warfarin for 37 years no significant issues. Personally I detest surgery and don't want to have another if I can avoid it.
I am a surgeon (retinal) and I enjoy hearing some of the comments that are attributed to some of the cardiac surgeons. Things like you can have a Ross procedure then when the aortic valve fails a TAVR when the pulmonary valve fails probably an open heart but maybe by then a TAVR like procedure then .....
This is to avoid anticoagulation. I would love not to have to take warfarin but it is not that big a deal. Surgery and procedures done multiple times have risks that mount up also. Also cardio vascular surgeons see a skewed population of patients. They see the ones that have surgery and the patients that return.
They don't see those patients that have had surgery and don't have any issues and return. So yes they may see some mechanical valves that need replacement due to clotting on the valve due to inadequate anti coagulation or patients with endocarditis on the valve. But the majority of patients that do well are followed by cardiologists and never see the surgeons again. So hearing some of the recommendations on this forum that have been attributed to some cardio vascular surgeons I find amusing. I think that a good cardiologist should be consulted about what procedure to have as much as the surgeon because the cardiologists are the ones that see the patients long term. Ultimately it is the patient that has to decide assuming that they have enough information to decide.
Finally there are many studies on various issues that help in making decisions. But only very rarely are these studies specific enough and large enough to help in answering very specific questions. So one can over think things and try to come to the perfect answer and be frustrated.
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics .
 
having had 3 OHS when I read someone else write this I can relate.
Personally I detest surgery and don't want to have another if I can avoid it. I am a surgeon...

I wish I had other options, but given that I started young and averaged 20 years between valve replacements I can't complain.

... I would love not to have to take warfarin but it is not that big a deal. Surgery and procedures done multiple times have risks that mount up also.

well one thing is for sure, warfarin management has become a much more accessible thing and gives well established better results.

As one ages its almost a good thing to be on a drug which prevents those nasty "strokes" which can strike unexpectedly

and I enjoy hearing some of the comments that are attributed to some of the cardiac surgeons. Things like you can have a Ross procedure then when the aortic valve fails a TAVR when the pulmonary valve fails probably an open heart but maybe by then a TAVR like procedure then .....

I am sure that there are some corner cases for all variants, but I've been on record here a number of times saying that in the majority of cases the Ross has no solid justification in the modern surgical repertoire. Spoil two valves to do surgery on one? Its madness from any perspective. The most that you can say is "its no worse than a bioprosthesis"

By and large its an anachronism for surgeons who like the challenge. I have yet to read an actual sound justification for it outside paediatric applications

I think its best put here:
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.108.778886
Despite the marked improvements in prosthetic valve design and surgical procedures over the past decades, valve replacement does not provide a definitive cure to the patient. Instead, native valve disease is traded for “prosthetic valve disease,

So why anyone would add a second diseased valve is bizarre to me. Futher it goes on to say:

.. and the outcome of patients undergoing valve replacement is affected by prosthetic valve hemodynamics, durability, and thrombogenicity.

given that clotting issues (thrombogenicity) are so well controlled now unless there is a compelling case to avoid anticoagulation durability should be what the patient would seek ...

Ultimately it is the patient that has to decide assuming that they have enough information to decide
In my experience here there are two issues I see time and time again

  1. many think they know something but usually just don't
  2. many have the data at hand but appear to be simply incapable of comprehending it. So without the ability to understanding of what all that data means you may as well give it to them in Greek or Chinese for all it matters
I can't count the amount of times that pre-surgery someone was horrified of the prospect of warfarin, gradually in discussion they are introduced to
  • what they thought they knew was highly distorted or wrong
  • the restrictions on their life were exaggerated or wrong
  • the management of ACT could actually be taken into their own hands and they could get control of their lives and health (like has also happened for diabetics
One fellow here was in tears eating his "last greek spinach dish" that his mum made him before surgery ... during his recovery we had a number of phone calls, he got a coaguchek, he tested ... now he still eats his mums cooking and is glad.

I often feel frustrated that so many suffer emotionally so much due to the misinformation presented to them.

Oh well ... I do what I can, but there must be thousands out there that are led down dark paths being told "its the only way"

The only thing I'd disagree with on your post is this:

its lies, bloody lies, statistics and maps.

:-D
 
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