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Interesting question...

Interesting question...

I had my surgery at USC University Hospital, and I'm not quite sure if it wasn't a "student doctor" who cut my right femoral artery and inserted the catheter...ended up with that infamous scar-y "PAD" there now. :mad:

Had someone more skilled done that, I'm sure I wouldn't have had the problems with that artery that I've had since and continue to have.

Debi (debster913)
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that if you want a high-powered surgeon that has done thousands of surgeries, it is IMPOSSIBLE that they would be present from the very beginning to the very end of a surgery. When I had mine, I was told in the ICU that my surgeon often does 3-4 valve surgeries per day. The only way to do that is to go from room to room and have other people do the prep and the closing. If you want a surgeon who is going to be present from the first minute to the last, that is a personal choice, but keep in mind that particular surgeon is going to have less valve experience overall because they are spending their time doing other parts of the surgery. Like everything else, I think it is a matter of personal preference.
 
I have a copy of both my OHS post surgical reports and in each my surgeon (same surgeon for both) certified he was present in the OR the whole time.
(Mass General Hospital)
 
UIHCCHI.... Thanks for your post and best wishes for your bypass on Friday. Hope this is the last you need.
 
It ain't necessarily so ...................

It ain't necessarily so ...................

I had my surgery at USC University Hospital, and I'm not quite sure if it wasn't a "student doctor" who cut my right femoral artery and inserted the catheter...ended up with that infamous scar-y "PAD" there now. :mad:

Had someone more skilled done that, I'm sure I wouldn't have had the problems with that artery that I've had since and continue to have.

Debi (debster913)
Sixty-ish cardiologist--lots of experience didn't do the best cardiac catheterization on me either. It happens and it's maddening. :mad: It would have been better had said cardiologist explained why it happened instead of throwing me out of his office when I asked. To my knowledge a student wasn't present.
 
Yes, doctors "in training" do assist and do parts of surgeries. That is how we create our future cardiovascular surgeons. However, an actual surgeon is always in the room or around the area of that OR for emergencies. They must master the entire part of the procedure, so there will be some surgeries where they do most but not all, depending on their level of expertise. They often let them assist much more on people who have not had past heart surgery. They do that because people who have had heart surgery may have more complicated issues with opening up and closing, as well as identifying what is what when they open. It's not this open, obvious space with people who have already had cardiac surgery. They must identify what is what (due to masses of scar tissue) and that requires the expertise of a certified cardiovascular surgeon. Don't worry though, no student doctor that doesn't have many, many years of experience is allowed to touch your heart. They must earn the right to be a part of someone's delicate organ such as the heart through learning. Training programs are also heavily regulated by certain organizations, which includes on-site review.

debster913- you are right, they do often have fellows start the femoral artery catheter access point. The femoral artery is not very big and the catheters inserted are much bigger than the artery itself, but since arteries have elastic properties, they can use big catheters. It is a risk of any cardiac catheterization that the artery becomes damaged, which can lead to peripheral vascular disease. If you are having symptoms of numbness, tingling, weakness, burning or aching in your right leg- consider contacting a vascular surgeon. They can evaluate any damage to your femoral artery and recommend the best treatment option. PVD increases your risk of heart-related issues such as heart attack, so it may be worth your while. They don't always do surgery for femoral artery claudication/occlusion, they can now do stents that open up that artery. However, bypass of the artery is also an option. I've had that myself 2 times, going on 3 next Friday. Yes, it was do to catheterization damage.

Best of luck!

UIHCCHI -

You appear to have more knowledge of 'how things are done' in the surgical arena than the average Heart Patient.

Are you trained in the Medical Field in some area?

Just Curious
 
Hi, Jkm! Just looked at my surgical notes and it states: "I was there for the key portion of the operation including cannulation, aortic valve replacement, and decannulation." I know someone else put me back together because he was out talking to family at that time. We consciously chose late spring for surgery, knowing that new house staff comes in July 1 and I really wanted people to be up to speed! Sometimes you don't have the luxury of choice!
 
Seems there are a lot of pros and cons about this subject.
My hospital is a teaching hospital as well.
I had no problems at all, but for my poor wife it was a whole different story.
Right after her catherization her leg started going numb. It turns out the collagen plug was forced into the artery totally blocking it, and required immediate emergency surgery. Our cardiologist insists he did it but we don't believe that to this day. We are quite sure it was an intern and we know who as well. Our cardio is 60 and has many years of experience and stated this never happened in his entire career.
But I guess they have to learn on somebody.
Rich
 
Hi, Jkm! Just looked at my surgical notes and it states: "I was there for the key portion of the operation including cannulation, aortic valve replacement, and decannulation." I know someone else put me back together because he was out talking to family at that time. We consciously chose late spring for surgery, knowing that new house staff comes in July 1 and I really wanted people to be up to speed! Sometimes you don't have the luxury of choice!

We had the July 1 date in mind, as well. Of course, as you say, there sometimes is no choice. My first OHS (emergency) was days before Christmas. :( Not an optimum date.
 

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