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I'm a little confused since you're talking about the bentall, do you have a dialated or annuerysm in your ascending Aorta? I thought you "just" had the dialated Aortic ROOT, but might have missed something. I personaly wouldn't get hung up on the names of the different possible surgeries or even have my mind made up on what procedure YOU would like and choose a surgeon that way. For example, I BELIEVE the Bentall is when you need the valve, root AND a section of the ascending Aorta replaced, so if your ascending is fine you wouldn't need that.

I most likely would talk to a couple surgeons who had alot of experience with Aortas and aortic valves and see what they reccomend for You and WHY. I think it is important and helpful to try and learn as much as you can about whatever your problems are, so that you can have a good conversation with the different surgerons and hopefully be able to ask good follow up questions depending what they say, so you can make the best choices for you as far as where to have the surgery. Others probably disagree, but I personally think most of the heart surgeons, especially if they work in busy centers, probably know and really understand what all the options are as far as what should be replaced or repaired and what should be left alone, than most lay people, even ones that have spent years, not months, reading studies and journels and talking to different surgeons.
I am NOT saying you shouldn't have a say in what options are the best, I think the more you know and understand the better, but in our experience when we've had to make some choices on pretty complex surgeries or even interventions, I try to wait until we've talked to a couple surgeons and Cardiologist (since they see the patients for long term follow up and see how they do with the different surgeries) before I decide what would be best. Hopefully the different surgeons will give the same opinions, which makes it easier to know what is "right",

I think in your case, where you know you need the valve replaced, but not sure what would be the best way to treat the root,
Some of the other things I would want to know are the measurements of the rest of your Aorta and how the root compares to that. Also as an example of how most surgeons, understand the Heart/aorta and how everything relates to each other and choices to be made, probably more than most patients,. The Aortic Root (to ME at least) is a little more confusing than most other parts of the Aorta, where decisions might be a little more cut and dry. The Root isn't just a tube with the coronaries attachted, but made up of quite a few different parts like the aortic annulus, sinus of Valsalva, sinotubular junction etc. So how depending which parts were affected, probably plays a big role in how the different surgeons would want to treat it or repair or replace it.
Here's an interesting PDF discussing the root http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1729505/pdf/v084p00670.pdf

So I try to understand the basics about the different interventions or surgeries justin will need, so i can carry on good conversations with the medical people, but I try to have an open mind going into talking to the various surgeons we decide to get opinions from, especially as Justin's surgeries get more complex, chances are they have thought about or taken into considerations things I didn't consider.

I personally believe the biggest or most important decision we make is choosing what surgeon we trust that when he is actually in there and sees everything they will make the best choice and do the surgery with great skill. I also believe the rest of the staff is very important, so when you are recovering we know "they've been there done that" and can quickly make good choices if bumps come up.

Good luck, you are doing the best things you can, trying to learn from others experiences.
Have you contacted the surgeons/center you want to get other opinions from and found out what they need to give opinions?
 
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Lyn,

Thanks for this info.

I still have a learning curve to overcome on the valve I need. I am going to UCLA on Thursday, so I will get my first surgeons opinion on this topic. I am sure I will get a better idea of what my options are at this time.

YOu sound like you have been through a lot with your son. I apprecite you sharing your experiences with me. Naturally, I hope the best for all of us. :)

I will be going to UCLA on Thursday, and U of Penn next month as well as Cleveland Clinic....

Hope to line this up and knock it out!
 
Lyn,

Thanks for this info.

I still have a learning curve to overcome on the valve I need. I am going to UCLA on Thursday, so I will get my first surgeons opinion on this topic. I am sure I will get a better idea of what my options are at this time.

YOu sound like you have been through a lot with your son. I apprecite you sharing your experiences with me. Naturally, I hope the best for all of us. :)

I will be going to UCLA on Thursday, and U of Penn next month as well as Cleveland Clinic....

Hope to line this up and knock it out!

Thanks, you're going to all 3 centers? Have you considerred getting their opinions from your records and talking to them first? We've gotten quite a few opinions, and only go to the places we're considerring using after that. it usually saves alot of time as well as the hassel and money involved with travelling all over to see everyone in person.

BTW is your ascending Aorta also enlarged or just the root?
 
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In case it helps, here's part of a chart from the On-X site. It gives the orifice area for different size valves.
I think the post above is misleading when it says to just move the decimal one place and that's how you get the valve area. If geometry were that simple, you wouldn't need a year of it in school. The valve orifice area corresponds to the valve area many of us are hearing about from our docs. So if you get a valve size #23, you'd be going from your 0.8cm2 stenotic valve to a new effective area of 3.13 cm2. My take on this info is that the size of the valve is probably derived from the diameter (in mm) at some part of the valve--not counting the sewing ring--or something similar to that. I think I read that the On-X has a bit of a flare to it to discourage pannus ingrowth, so I don't know whether it would be the external diameter at the flare, or in the middle underneath the ring, or exactly where on the valve that measurement might be planned in the design.
The column headers are:
Valve Size, Valve Internal Diameter (mm), Valve Orifice Area with Leaflets in Place (cm2), Sewing Ring Diameter (mm).

Size___ID______OA____SRD
19____17.4____2.00____27
21____19.4____2.53____30
23____21.4____3.13____33
25____23.4____3.73____34
27____23.4____3.73____36
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I suspect if you dig a bit, you can probably find similar specs on all the manufacturers' websites.
 
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