Can't sleep...feeling kind of depressed

[Andrew'sMom]

Hi Wayne, I'm just getting a chance now to catch up on small talk threads. ... sorry about the situation you found yourself in ... but things seem to be working out great for you! Wishing you the best with the 2 job leads that seem promising. Glad to see your spirits lifting. I'll be watching for the post to see what new position you end up with! Very best of luck to you!!

 

[imhayley]

Wishing you the best!

Wishing you the best!

I'm so glad to hear things are getting better for you. I have been praying for you and keeping you close in thought! Keep smiling Best of luck!!!

 

[Aussie Chris]

Hi Wayne,

I have joined this thread really late but just wanted to add my words of support. You will probably look back on this time see this as opening up a whole lot of new possibilities in your life.

My wife works with a career transition coompany here in Australia who help people explore new employment possibilities when a company goes thro restructure. I have heard so many positive stories about people who were just existing in a position, and now because they were forced to explore other options, are now in far more rewarding positions. My brother was one of these people who went on to be made a director in a new company after years of just existing in a job he hated as an accountant.

In my own case it was OHS which acted as the catalyst that got me out of my rut being self employed, existing with all of the worries and burdens of being your own boss and always being the one who ultimately was responsible for everything. Anyway 4 months ago I decided to apply for a position working for someone else. I haven't looked back and now couldn't be happier. The guys I work for now really value my experience an are always running things by me or looking to me to come up with new solutions for them.

Stay positive, I am sure it will all work out for the best.

Cheers,
Chris

PS If your existing company is trying to be helpful in finding you a new position maybe they would pay for the services of a career transition company. If you need the name of one, I can recommend one that operates world wide. All the best.

 

[BDMc]

Hope

Hope

Wayne, I agree that things will probably turn out better as a result of your layoff. I'm sure there is a real opportunity coming your way! Sounds like there's a good chance you already have it. I hope you are sleeping well, and enjoying your vacation! All the best, Brian

 

[Jim P]

Wayne,

As a person who has changed ?career fields? three times, I can tell you that it is not that difficult to do, if you maintain self-assurance, confidence, and don?t try to do it the job search all by yourself. I always suggest that people contact their old friends and colleagues to ask if they know of opportunities in their companies. It sounds like you are already making those contacts.

Actually, another technique I suggest is to determine what it is that you really enjoy doing, take training to become good in that field, and then find someone who will pay you to do the thing that you most enjoy. In my case that was traveling. I took a training course in tour directing and then found (numerous) companies willing to hire me to lead overseas tours, based on my enthusiasm, travel experience, and training. It is not necessary to stay in the same field that you have always been in, if you do not absolutely love it.

Based on what I have read in your postings, I think I see someone who is personable, has a lot of empathy for others, and is hard-charging. I predict you should have no problem finding the right situation for yourself. In fact, your dilemma may be choosing which one of many opportunities to select. I wish you the best of luck in your search.

 

[WayneGM]

Thank you all for your kind words of support and encouragement. It means so much to me. I keep reading this thread over and over, and it warms my heart.

My Mom and Aunt arrived on Saturday and it's keeping me busy and taking my mind off the job situation. I have not mentioned this to her as, at 86, she doesn't need to hear about this. I am more confident things will ultimately work out, much due to the support I've recieved here. You are the greatest.

I'm definitely sleeping better...so far since my Mom got here it seems all we've been doing is eating. My Mom likes to sip a bit of cognac before bed, so I join her. Apparently my grandfather used to do that and he lived until age 103......no twisting my arm to give this therapy a shot! Anyway, a bit of cognac and I'm out for the night.

 

[Praline]

Wayne,
I hope the cognac helps you to fall asleep. And good luck with a new job.

 

[WayneGM]

Wayne. Hope you are sleeping soundly!!

Sounds like you woke up from your initial daze (my husband went through something like this and believe me....I understand what you mean about being in a daze!) and discovered that you have options and support all around you.

I suspect that you will flow in and out of promising news and flat news until you land yourself in a good spot. Perhaps it will be something like recovery from your OHS. Some days are great and others, not so great. But in the end....it will all work out just fine; maybe be even better for you!

Good luck and keep us posted!

Best wishes.

Marguerite

Well it's been two months and Marguerite you were so right....it's been quite the roller coaster. Unfortunately still no luck in landing anything.

Of the two jobs I mentioned before, I finally heard back on one of them....I bring great skills to the table but not they are not a fit with the needs of the postion. The other, is still pending, but no word despite my sending a quick e-mail to follow-up a month after the interview. The response back was "Sorry for the delay. I'll call you Monday"....he never did call. In fact, my boss tried to call to "support" my application and left a message. He never did return the call. I've haven't been told I didn't get the job, but how am I supposed to interpret all this after such a long delay. I'm not too optimistic about it.

Since then, I've applied to 3 other postings, including one which was essentially a job I've done before (just with a different title and boss...another outcome of re-structuring), but no luck. I just applied to another one, but it's actually a level up so a "rare" promotional opportunity, and there will probably be heavy competition for sure. I don't care if I don't get a promotion...I just want a job!

I've still got until the end of October to find something within the company, but it isn't looking good. I'm feeling anxious, and the nights are long, again.

I can't help feeling if I can't find another job in one of the biggest, most profitable, companies in Canada, where I've had a solid track record with for over 21 years, how can I expect to find one on the outside?

MAN, THIS SUCKS!!!

There....glad I got that off my chest.....thanks for letting me vent!

 

[Bina]

Wayne....try not to get too bummed yet.....things will fall into place somehow.
Remember, my hubby got laid off after 26 yrs at Air Canada and we are fine; we don't blow money, but we are fine.
Maybe it's time to register with an agency or two, keep the ball rolling.....

 

[Superbob]

Wayne,

I am late to this thread and don't have any special knowledge to share but just wanted to encourage you to keep plugging away. Often good things happen when we least expect it. Don't give up. We are all pulling for you.

Cheers,

 

[Phyllis]

Don't give up, Wayne and applying to another agency outside your company is good advice. We'll be praying and rooting for a good resolution before the end of October!

 

[EireCara]

Hi Wayne, so sorry to see things are still a bit 'up in the air' for you. Believe me I know only too well what you must be going through, but good things come to those who persevere. It may not come in the exact way you want but it could still work out better in hindsight.

I like to believe that the ''good guy'' wins, so that is what Im wishing for you!!

Best Wishes and prayers....Jacqui.

 

[WayneGM]

Thanks for the encouragement. Actually, when I read some of the challenges others have been facing post-op lately, I think my situation is pretty tame....but thanks for letting me vent anyway.

I just found out today a colleague of mine, in a different department, but who I've worked with extensively on numerous projects, is in the same boat. Apparently we got "the news" around the same time. I guess there's a lot of "housekeeping" going on I don't know about. We figure it is the end of an era or something.

Anyway, I'm just frustrated as h**l. Technically, while I'm on "Retention Services" I'm not supposed to be looking outside the company. However, once I transition to "Income Protection", then I'm a free agent and will definitely be contacting agencies. That said, I figure I'll wait until after Labour Day, and if I haven't heard anything encouraging, I'll start to contact my "network" outside the company to start planting seeds, even if I stop short of actually contacting agencies. However, I have already started a data base of agencies to contact that specialize in the type of work I do. I've also started developing my "profile" on employment web sites even though I haven't flicked the switch on to go "public" yet. I'm ready to tackle this....just reluctantly.

Thanks again for your encouragement, and letting me vent. It helps to just to let the "frustration" out. At the end of the day, I know I don't really have a choice but to move on and deal with it.

 

[Susan BAV]

This is such a difficult time of year to get anything done, when so many people are on vacations. Perhaps that is the problem in regard to the phone calls not being returned. Like you said, after the next holiday, things may come together. Hope things get better for you. Take care.

 

[WayneGM]

If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any at all

If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any at all

Pardon me, but I just have to vent again or burst.....

I just finally heard back on that other job I interviewed for way back in July (and heard nothing since) and wouldn't you know it......it was offered to an ex-patriot in a similar job in our U.S. subidiary that decided she wanted to come back to Canada. The hiring manager told me I was the front running candidate until her intentions surfaced, and that's why the delay as they sorted out all the details of her repatriation back to Canada. I guess I was "Plan B" if things didn't work out.

Unfortunately, I happen to know her and she does have a few extra things in her background that would edged me out, but that doesn't making it any less disappointing or discouraging, especially after being left hanging for so long. It would have been better if at least he was upfront about it so I knew where I stood sooner and could move on. At least now I finally know the outcome on this one, and I'm not waiting for the phone to ring in anticipation.

WITH A CANADIAN WINTER JUST AROUND THE CORNER, WHY COULDN'T SHE JUST STAY IN THE WARM SOUTH A LITTLE WHILE LONGER!!!!

Timing is everything, and even my boss thought this was unbelieveably bad timing. I sure hope my luck changes soon. As they say, bad things happen in threes, so I figure I've had OHS, Percardial Tamponade, and now this since my surprise heart valve diagnosis, so it's just got to get better from here.

Grrrr.......

Thanks for listening.

 

[Bina]

Wayne, where does this "Plan A" woman live?
Maybe she has a nice house (and job) that you could swap.....hang in there.

 

[WayneGM]

Wayne, where does this "Plan A" woman live?
Maybe she has a nice house (and job) that you could swap.....hang in there.

Don't think that didn't cross my mind, though I think my family would disown me. However the company has now restricted moving Canadians to foreign subsidiaries as ex-patriates, largerly due to costs and there's more red tape since 9/11. They'll bring the ones already out there home though. Another case of timing......

 

[PeggyM]

You're right, things seem to happen in threes! Hang in there. There is a reason things happen and we often can't see it at first. But remember, when one door closes another opens. I know things will look up for you very soon. Stay strong.