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I have started eating more foods with vitamin K in them..will that make my coumadin level go up or down? Thanks for your help!
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I think your coumadin level will remain the same. Please correct me if I'm wrong though anyone. It's your INR you need to worry about. I believe that consuming more vitamin K will reduce your INR. With INR, it's safer to be too high than too low when aiming for your goal level, according to Al Lodwick.
Petros
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Viramin K.
Viramin K.
Increased intakes of vitamin K will reduce your INR level.
My doctor's advise was to adjust my INR levels to be between 2.5 to 3.5 but at a same time not to exclude green vegs from my diet.
There are a lot of internet sites in which you can see levels of vitamin K included in various foods especially in green vegetables.
Finally, please have in mind that the more green a vegetable is, the more vitamin K is included.
Viramin K.
Increased intakes of vitamin K will reduce your INR level.
My doctor's advise was to adjust my INR levels to be between 2.5 to 3.5 but at a same time not to exclude green vegs from my diet.
There are a lot of internet sites in which you can see levels of vitamin K included in various foods especially in green vegetables.
Finally, please have in mind that the more green a vegetable is, the more vitamin K is included.
Not necessarily. Cauliflower has a higher concentration of vitamin K than brocolli, peas or green beans.
You might not know that meats have vitamin K in them too. As much as some green vegtables.
You might not know that meats have vitamin K in them too. As much as some green vegtables.
Vitamin K blocks the action of Coumadin. Large amounts of Vit K will make your INR go down.
But don't be shy to eat Vitamin K since it is a part of so many healthy veggies. Just try to be somewhat consistent and not binge in excess.
But don't be shy to eat Vitamin K since it is a part of so many healthy veggies. Just try to be somewhat consistent and not binge in excess.
Petros
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This is correct Aaron. However, I have noticed that eating more amounts of green vegs than that included in my normal diet, reduces my INR levels dramatically. I did not notice anything similar when eating more meat. On the other hand, yes I have also read about cauliflower. However, cauliflower was not even mentioned in the list of the Warfarin booklet given to me at the clinic after surgery.
KristyW
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Petros,
Do yourself a favor and forget that book. It makes people crazy. We have a saying around here...dose the diet, not diet the dose. In other words, eat what you like and your warfarin dosage will be adjusted accordingly. Try to be somewhat consistant with your Vitamin K intake over the course of a week. You don't have to make sure you eat the same vitamin k each day...that would be difficult at best. You can splurge on a big spinach salad or a big helping of brussels sprouts or broccoli or asparagus once in a while, but if the change is going to be part of your diet from now on, make the change about a week before your next INR test, so you don't stay low for too long.
Hope this helps.
Eat what you want .... dose the diet if you try and diet the dose you will drive yourself nuts ... and I would suggesting listening to people who actually take coumadin or to your coumadin manager.
Ross
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EXACTLY! Throw the book and the charts out the window right now or you'll become a mental case in less time then it takes to get your INR straight. It has never worked for anyone only serves to drive one nuts.
Amen KristyW...Amen Cooker....Amen Ross. Eat as you would if you didn't have the valve. Just try to be consistent in the amount of green, leafy vit K vegs you eat over the week. If you eat a LOT of vit K you may have to increase your warfarin a little.
come on man, people that don't have heart problems talk about it all the time here and I learn alot from them. Shall we exclude people from discussion on all ailments they don't themselves have? Why even post? Should the people in the "waiting room" read posts only?
It's called trust but verify. The only reason I answered is because this person had already waited an hour for a reply. I did my best to answer his/her question.
come on man, people that don't have heart problems talk about it all the time here and I learn alot from them. Shall we exclude them from ailments they don't themselves have?
I was not talking about you or at you....funny you should think that I was ... the voice of experience speaks louder.
come on man, people that don't have heart problems talk about it all the time here and I learn alot from them. Shall we exclude people from discussion on all ailments they don't themselves have? Why even post? Should the people in the "waiting room" read posts only?
Aaron, please don't freak out. We all know that you do your research, but the AntiCoagulation Forum seems to be very well monitored by so many of us who are actually taking Coumadin/warfarin that maybe newbies should be guided by the voices of experience??
Just my thoughts.
I'm wiggin out! No seriously I know what you're saying, but I wonder how manny people that take coumadin knew cauliflower had a high concentration of vitamin K in it, and that the color might not matter. I thought my posts were a valid contribution. I"m definitely not going to try to tell him how to dose or compensate....
No seriously I know what you're saying, but I wonder how manny people that take coumadin knew cauliflower had a high concentration of vitamin K in it, and that the color might not matter. I thought my posts were a valid contribution. I"m definitely not going to try to tell him how to dose or compensate....
The bottom line .... eat what you want, test often and adjust your dose as needed ...but for God's sake don't waste you life lamenting over the micro grams (or however the hell it is measured) of vitamin K in dinner, night time snack etc....
I eat cauliflower and broccoli together with no problem, in fact my INR is at 3.5 today so I am making sure that hubby buys me both tomorrow to have with dinner. YUMMO!
Aaron, you will need a wilder hair-do if you are gonna "wig out". LOL
Aaron, you will need a wilder hair-do if you are gonna "wig out". LOL
cauliflower ... yucko
... nasty.... have you ever had broccaflower ... cross between the two .... literally the veggie from hell
I don't do any of that "hybrid" nasty sh-t.
