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gijanet

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Heart forum for an update? pre-surgery? brick wall?

Well, we finally got past Dr. Mee's guard dog and he personally answered our last e-mail. As I strongly suspected all along, he could not make any promises about Katie's valve, even if we would have been willing to do another TEE, which, of course, we would have done in a heartbeat (no pun intended!) if that would have allowed him to give us an answer. (With her heart on the right and in backwards, along with her numerous other defects, it just makes it so blasted hard to determine anything via cath or TEE - most things are an "on the table" type of thing.) He basically said that a valve repair would be optimal in a child this age, but "the problem is that an absolute, definitive decision cannot be made from films. There are a lot of variables. The best decision is made under direct vision in the operating room."

He also said that if we were confident with Dr. Bove, then that is where we need to have Katie's surgery. He also apologized for not being able to take our doubt and concern away. The last part made me cry............well, maybe all of it did, as I was so hoping that he would be able to say, "Yes, I have seen this before and it is doable." But his compassion touched my heart as it is so obvious he knows what we are going through...............

I had read that he was a cold fish, but I don't believe it at all......not after that response...............

So, I guess this is our brick wall. Since Dr. Bove knows Katie's anatomy through two previous operations - and he is one of the very best - kids come in from all over the world, seeking out his expertise - I feel that we have to stay put. We are now scheduled to leave for Michigan via Amtrak on the 9th - since Katie can't fly - spend a glorious 24 hours on the train - supposed to be 18 or so, but Amtrak is NEVER on time on the long hauls - we do speak from experience!! :D Actually, it's not bad since we get a sleeper; that way, Katie can play on the way up and lie down on the way back. Get in to MIchigan on the tenth. Pre-op on the 11th; thankfully, no cath since we just had one last year. And surgery on the 12th - the extracardiac fontan plus valve re-repair or replacement of her common AV valve (mitral and tricuspid merged). We have been told to expect a stay of two to six weeks for recovery...........argh! Obviously, I am hoping and praying for two!!!! It will depend in large part as to whether Katie develops PLE (Protein losing enteropothy) after the fontan - about 1/4 of the kids do, pleural effusions - which we had last year, and getting her INR adjusted if we end up with that mechanical valve, which is looking likely, but I am praying not.............

My mom is staying with Trip - my twelve year old son, so, hopefully, he won't feel too abandoned. He just gets shoved to the backburner so often, but I don't know what else to do.............it just can't be helped.................

I think one of the hardest things about going into this surgery is that Katie is doing so well. She is a bundle of energy (I don't know how with sats in the seventies, but she is!) and quite the little toot as so many of you know by now. She had a blast at the beach and decided that we need to sell our house and move their permanently.............ahhhhh! How I wish we could! BTW, the seaweed was really bad this year.........hasn't been that bad in about six years.

I'm a wreck. I am scurrying to try and get Katie into the dentist before we go, just in case we end up with that mechanical valve. Better to do it now. I had meant to do this earlier, but getting that second opinion took up what little is left of my mind............. and then we stop her aspirin tomorrow, so that will make me nervous as a whore in church .............sweating a stroke on top of everything else I have to worry about............sigh!

Anyway, that is where we stand.............sigh - yes, again!!!! Please keep us in your prayers. Any prayer chains are welcome. I will be falling apart over the next week...........like that is not showing already.................. :D

Thanks for bearing with me - or in Katie's case, it should be baring. :D Many hugs.

Wandering around looking for her mind.............Janet
 
Silly woman, you two never leave my prayers. I only hope mine are being listened too at this time.
 
I hope so, too.........

I hope so, too.........

Ross said:
Silly woman, you two never leave my prayers. I only hope mine are being listened too at this time.

Gosh, Ross, what are you doing up? I thought I was the only insomniMANIAC around............don't know if the world can handle two of us........... :eek:

And you can tell how much weight my prayers carry........you and Lyn are in our nightly (should that be morning?) prayers............fat good that has done ya. :D Unless you've been sitting on the fact that you won the lottery last night................

Love ya. Many hugs and my true thanks. Janet
 
gijanet said:
She had a blast at the beach and decided that we need to sell our house and move their permanently.............ahhhhh!

I'm with her! My fantasy is to buy a house at the beach - where ever that beach my be. Preferably East coast.

Janet, Katie, you and your family haven't left my prayers. But I will put Katie on my church's prayer chain today.

It sounds like Katie is in the best hands possible. The fact that he knows her heart first-hand is a huge plus and it sounds like Dr. Mee is concuring with that.

I continue to hold you close in thought and prayer. You have a whole, quirky family here who most likely won't be able to do much else on the 12th than think of Katie and you.
 
A beach house sounds all nice and stuff, but believe me, those that have done that say it's a nightmare and they couldn't wait to get back home.
 
Ross said:
Rust Never Sleeps.

*rolls eyes*

Don't I know it ... all too well, if you ask me :(.



gijanet said:
and then we stop her aspirin tomorrow, so that will make me nervous as a whore in church

Nervous as a whore in church, eh?

*chuckles*

Have no idea why, but of all the words/sentences/phrases in your post, Janet, this one reeached out and smacked me in the rear ... and struck my funny bone ;).

Seriously, I wish there was something I could magically say to make it all better ... but, I can't. Instead, I can send my thoughts/prayers....

BTW, any idea what path that train will take?


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Janet, I've only been on a sleeper train one time. It was a trip from Madrid to LIsbon and I loved it. I hope you find it enjoyable (although how can any 18 hour trip be enjoyable?). You and Katie are always in my prayers too. I hope you can feel the love from all of us coming your way.
 
Janet, thinking of you and Katie all the time and we will be anxiously waiting word from Michigan. I'm sure Katie will love the train experience. My kids took my two granddaughters on a sleeper from MD to FL and they had a ball, albeit a little shorter trip.
Re: the beach house. We were fortunate to buy a house on the beach here in CT when our children were 4 and 6 and prices were much less than they are now. We've spent 32 wonderful years here and although, it is getting tough to rake that beach and keep it all up, we are now watching our grandchildren enjoy the same wonderful experience and I doubt we will ever move. I tease my kids and tell them that they are going to have the joy of cleaning out this house some day ( I can picture 4 dumpsters in the driveway). Should you ever find yourself in CT, Katie is welcome to come and play on the beach- there is always a box of sand toys waiting.
Your are a great Mom, you will do fine, a mother's strength and courage is remarkable when called upon. We will be praying and waiting for word. :)
 
A very special prayer!

A very special prayer!

Dear Janet, your post has brought me so many lost memories of my first surgery back in 1975, but just like me, I'm quite confident Kathy will also make it wonderfully well to the other side of the mountain. And she has one good advantage over me: things are much better nowadays regarding all the technology available. I'll keep my fingers crossed for her and Bruna will also say a very special prayer every day at bedtime from now on. Take care!
Débora
 
Janet - you know you have all my prayers and I'm afraid I'm not even overly religious but for our gorgeous Katie I make an exception and hope I get listened to!
I'm hoping for that two week stay for you too! You never know you could all meet us in Disney Florida yet!!
Sounds like the decision on the surgeon got taken for you then - probably a good thing really if Bove knows Katies anatomy well, he must be the best to do the surgery!
Do you have any way of updating us? Cos I, for one, will be going crazy waiting for an update - I'd give you mobile phone number but it'd cost you a fortune to text me. Do you use the care pages at all??
So sorry I cut off from you yesterday morning but I just couldnt tell you at that time of night and I didnt know what else to do - felt awful about it for the rest of the day. It will be a whole other story with Katie though - nothing but good news all the way - I have good feelings about it!
Could you also PM me your home address cos Chloe and I have bought something for Katie today and would like to send it to her. Do you have someone who can bring you post from home??

Love and huge hugs to you all
Emma
xxx
 
Janet,

You have been on my prayer list since I started reading about Katie. Her stories make me feel selfish sometimes when I feel sorry for myself. She is an ispiration to us all.

Where are you going in Michigan? Maybe another road trip from Ohio would be in order to come and say hi.

I hope Katie will think the road trip is an adventure. Although it will be long, I think it will be fun too (except considering the reason). But, then, the reason can be considered a good one too once she is well into recovery.

My best to you all.
 
Janet,
I am so sorry your daughter has to go through all this. I cant even imagine what it must feel like as a parent. I dont know much about her case.. but from what I have read, she sounds like a strong little girl! :) It also sounds like you have a great surgeon/doctor. You, your whole family, and especialy Katie will be in my thoughts and prayers. ;)

I agree with others, she is definitly an inspiration to us all!

Best Wishes,
Shannon
 
Okay...........

Okay...........

I'm not smart enough to put quotes in from 25 people like y'all can, so bare :D with me here as I have mucho responses. But, first, thank you all so much..........so VERY much. J.

Karlynn said:
I'm with her! My fantasy is to buy a house at the beach - where ever that beach my be. Preferably East coast.

Shhhh! Don't let Rust there in on your fantasy or he will be hounding you for those bikini pics again!

Karlynn said:
Janet, Katie, you and your family haven't left my prayers. But I will put Katie on my church's prayer chain today.

Karlynn, This is greatly appreciated.........so much.........and hey, quirky is good to me! Hugs. J.

Rust said:
A beach house sounds all nice and stuff, but believe me, those that have done that say it's a nightmare and they couldn't wait to get back home.

Hey, I'll gladly trade that nightmare for the ones I'm presently having! And you're not even in them........... :D :D Love ya, Rust. J.

Cort said:
Nervous as a whore in church, eh?

*chuckles*

Have no idea why, but of all the words/sentences/phrases in your post, Janet, this one reached out and smacked me in the rear ... and struck my funny bone .

Yeah, I have my dear mother to thank for that saying. Of all her sayings, that is the one that has stuck over the years. (YIKES! :eek: and this is the woman who is going to be staying with my son while we are gone???) I probably shouldn't be mentioning whores in church while asking for a prayer request all in the same post :eek: ..........especially since I didn't bother to request any redemption prayers for those whores........heeheehee! :D

Cort said:
BTW, any idea what path that train will take?

Hopefully, the one with the train tracks. :D Sorry, couldn't resist that one. I think the gameplan is to get off at Bloomington-Normal. Then we will drive Don's mom's car up to Ann Arbor. Dunno, that five hour car trip back from AA to Bloomington just about did Katie in after her last surgery. May have to do that one in intervals. As far as the route we take from Bloomington to AA............well, I plead ignorance. That's a Don thing since he's from them there parts. I can find out if you want me to. I do, do Yahoo! And hey, your thoughts and prayers are good. For lack of a magic wand, we will definitely take those. And, seriously, I wish you luck in your job decision. Many hugs. J.

bvdr said:
Janet, I've only been on a sleeper train one time. It was a trip from Madrid to LIsbon and I loved it. I hope you find it enjoyable (although how can any 18 hour trip be enjoyable?). You and Katie are always in my prayers too. I hope you can feel the love from all of us coming your way.

Betty, Katie sure loves the trip, anyway, at least on the way up, that is. I can say that the porters are not too sad to see her get off the train......heehee! :D And I do...........dunno what I would do without all you guys. It really does help. I am convinced that y'all's prayers carry more weight than mine. Many hugs. J.


Phyllis said:
We were fortunate to buy a house on the beach here in CT when our children were 4 and 6 and prices were much less than they are now. We've spent 32 wonderful years here.Should you ever find yourself in CT, Katie is welcome to come and play on the beach- there is always a box of sand toys waiting.

Oh, I am soooooo jealous. We were quasi-seriously looking at buying a beachhouse back in '99. Then Katie came along..........and well, it's been a busy four and 1/2 years, to say the least. We looked again this summer for grins and the prices have tripled from '99..........way out of our price range now................sigh! I'm glad you've decided to stay put for your grandkids. Beachfront housing is quickly becoming something just for the rich and famous, I'm afraid. And I bet that Atlantic coast is a heck of a lot prettier than our mucky old Gulf of Mexico one. Hey, I would just as soon go up to Connecticut as Michigan...........I dunno about Dick's surgical skills, though. Haven't seen his name in any sig lines. :D Besides, I would be the only one on the beach in a snowsuit up there. :D Seriously, thank you so much for your support, kind words, and prayers. Hugs. J.

Debora said:
I'll keep my fingers crossed for her and Bruna will also say a very special prayer every day at bedtime from now on.

Oh, thank you, Debora, for the prayers, especially Bruna's - I think kids carry more weight than adults - and for the vote of confidence. Many hugs. J.

Gina said:
You have been on my prayer list since I started reading about Katie. Her stories make me feel selfish sometimes when I feel sorry for myself. She is an ispiration to us all.

Where are you going in Michigan? Maybe another road trip from Ohio would be in order to come and say hi.

Sorry, Gina, that was never my intent, but I know what you mean. I look at Katie sometimes and wonder why the heck I'm whining about work or whatever is that is stuck in my craw at the time..........and hey, a visit would be great, if your schedule works out. We are going to be in Ann Arbor at the University of Michigan. I am geographically challenged, so I have no clue if that is even doable. Thanks, too, for the kind words and vote of confidence. Many hugs. J.

Karlynn said:
I am so sorry your daughter has to go through all this. I cant even imagine what it must feel like as a parent. I dont know much about her case.. but from what I have read, she sounds like a strong little girl! It also sounds like you have a great surgeon/doctor. You, your whole family, and especialy Katie will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Thank you, Shannon, and I am so grateful that you don't know what it feels like........no parent should have to go through this............but the alternative, for us anyway, is much worse. And yes, Katie, is a strong little girl.........quite the little toot, as a matter of fact. When she is a teenager, we are going to have some serious trouble on our hands, I'm afraid. But, I will gladly take that on. Thanks for the prayers. Many hugs. J.

Emma said:
Do you have any way of updating us? Cos I, for one, will be going crazy waiting for an update - I'd give you mobile phone number but it'd cost you a fortune to text me. Do you use the care pages at all??
So sorry I cut off from you yesterday morning but I just couldnt tell you at that time of night and I didnt know what else to do - felt awful about it for the rest of the day. It will be a whole other story with Katie though - nothing but good news all the way - I have good feelings about it!
Could you also PM me your home address cos Chloe and I have bought something for Katie today and would like to send it to her. Do you have someone who can bring you post from home??

Oh, Emma, Emma, where do I start? You and Chloe are my strength right now...........everyone on here is, but you two really are. No, no, please don't feel bad...........I just assumed your internet connection went kaput as you had warned me about that...........was it really bad, or did you have a feeling you were about to get bad news? You and Chloe are too sweet to get Katie something, but, please, you don't have to. I don't want you to spend a fortune on postage..........Disney World is already going to cost you an arm and a leg, believe me. Their magical days are very expensive. I will PM you the info,though, but it will have to be the hospital address. We have good friends, but I don't think they want to drive 1500 miles........heehee! just to deliver a package............even if I told them it was very special. Oh, and we do have a carepage. www.carepages.com KatelynSteffen I should be able to get on a computer as they have one on each floor. Getting on it can sometimes be a problem, but I find that it is usually empty at 3 AM! :D Imagine that! Thank you for the kind words, prayers, and everything. Love ya. J.

Did I get everything on one post? Could it be true? Who said old dogs can't learn new tricks? Many hugs. J.
 
My wife and I think about you and Katie all the time and yes you are on our prayer list. You have been since you came to visit last Oct--wish I could return the favor--it meant alot then and now. I am doing fine--just got good news back from an echo--solid improvement for 8 months.
We are just a few of the many people who will be praying for YOU AND KATIE.
I think God has a special purpose for people like Katie who have to endure so much.
If you want to pm your cell phone or hospital number I have unlimited long distance. I can call you if you need to talk or vent.

Hugs and Kisses for Katie and loads of prayers and good thoughts,

Bobby
 
gijanet said:
Yeah, I have my dear mother to thank for that saying. Of all her sayings, that is the one that has stuck over the years. (YIKES! :eek: and this is the woman who is going to be staying with my son while we are gone???) I probably shouldn't be mentioning whores in church while asking for a prayer request all in the same post :eek: ..........especially since I didn't bother to request any redemption prayers for those whores........heeheehee!

*shakes head*

I'm speechless....


gijanet said:
Hopefully, the one with the train tracks.

*shakes head*

Quote of the week, perhaps?


gijanet said:
I think the gameplan is to get off at Bloomington-Normal. Then we will drive Don's mom's car up to Ann Arbor. Dunno, that five hour car trip back from AA to Bloomington just about did Katie in after her last surgery. May have to do that one in intervals. As far as the route we take from Bloomington to AA............well, I plead ignorance. That's a Don thing since he's from them there parts. I can find out if you want me to.

Yes, please do. I believe you will avoid Chicago, but never hurts to ask/find out ... maybe we could meet up somewhere along the way....


gijanet said:
And hey, your thoughts and prayers are good. For lack of a magic wand, we will definitely take those.

*nods*

Sounds good to me.


gijanet said:
And, seriously, I wish you luck in your job decision. Many hugs.

Thanks ... I appreciate this, perhaps more than you know. I've been "mum" about this because I'm not at all happy. On a few levels as well...lol. Ah, well ... this, too, shall pass.
 
Janet - there's probably nothing I can say to ease your mind, but please know that I'll be sending all the positive thoughts I can to you and especially Katie.

You're both tough, fiesty little cookies and I'm sure you'll both come through this next challange fiestier than ever.

Hugs to you both
Anna : )
 
Oh, Bobby...........

Oh, Bobby...........

countryboy said:
My wife and I think about you and Katie all the time and yes you are on our prayer list. You have been since you came to visit last Oct--wish I could return the favor--it meant alot then and now. I am doing fine--just got good news back from an echo--solid improvement for 8 months.
Hugs and Kisses for Katie and loads of prayers and good thoughts,

Bobby

Has it really been eight months???? Can't be............sure doesn't seem that long. I am so grateful to hear that you are doing SOOOO well. You reallly need to post that news in post-surgery or the heart forum to give these newbies some hope and to set the tone here. :D You can be their role model.

I thought of you last month when we were driving back from Illinois........still love the country around Paris/Powderly............it's so good to hear from you.

Thank you so much for the kind words and prayers - they've touched my heart............especially Katie having a special purpose............just hope she's not paying for my sins somehow...........sigh!

Will PM you those numbers. Many hugs. Janet
 
Nawwwwwwwww...not you!

Nawwwwwwwww...not you!

knightfan2691 said:
I'm speechless.....

That would be a first............now I remember when I said that one time........... :D

knightfan2691 said:
Yes, please do. I believe you will avoid Chicago, but never hurts to ask/find out ... maybe we could meet up somewhere along the way.....

Oh, yes, yes, I will. I will have to check the train schedule for the guesstimated time of arrival - add five hours or so and then figure out when we will be leaving Bloomington. That would be great if it is not wee hours of the morning. We would love to see you again.


knightfan2691 said:
Thanks ... I appreciate this, perhaps more than you know. I've been "mum" about this because I'm not at all happy. On a few levels as well...lol. Ah, well ... this, too, shall pass.

Oh, Cort, I am so sorry. You know you hold a really special place in my heart as you were one of my first heart buddies, and this pains me to hear that you are having such a hard time right now. You will be in our prayers that you find peace and happiness with whatever decision you make. Sending our love and prayers and I will get back to you on the rest. Many hugs. Janet
 
gijanet said:
I thought of you last month when we were driving back from Illinois......

*raises eyebrow*

Am I tired, or did I actually miss something here? I didn't know you were in Illinois ... or did I?
 

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