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jx05

Hi , I'm 37 and found out in Febuary 2005 I have a condition known as bicuspid aortic valve, I was surprised to here that, because I have no history of cardiovascular problems. I have been active in sports all my life, and had no idea of my condition. The doctor said I will need surgery within the year, I have an appointment in May to see the surgeon to talk about my options. I'm doing fine with the fact I need this done, but I have a concern because I have no insurance. If anyone knows of any organizations or insurances available that could help me , please let me know or any suggestions , also anyone has a figure of how much a mechanical valve surgery will cost. Any suggestions of which valve to select . thx
 
Most states usually have insurance for people that are uninsurable due to health issues. In CT, it doesn't kick in until a year after you apply. It's expensive, but a lot less than paying for the valve replacement would be. You may want to do a search for FL health insurance. Dick was on Medicare and even with Medicare cutting the fees way back, his valve replacement was over $85,000.00 and that was for five days in the hospital and no complications. At your age, you will probably be considering a mechanical valve. There's lots of good information in the valve selection thread. Welcome to the forum, you will find a wealth of information here and best wishes to you.
 
Just wanted to welcome you.

I don't have any thoughts different from the others. I am sure surgery would be in excess of $75-80K. Local health assistance should be able to help or check with the hospital itself for any programs that might help.

Best of luck and please keep us posted.
 
I am 47 and just had my bicuspid aortic valve replaced. I do not mean to alarm you, but was anything said about your having an aortic aneuryism? Some biscupid aortic valve patients such as myself also have the aneuryism. You may not have it, but if you are not certain, ask your doctor about it.
Where in Flordia do you live? I live in Jacksonville. My cardiologist sent me out of state due to my past medical history. My insurance was billed for over 100K. We are still waiting to see what the surgeon charged. If you are near Jacksonville, you may want call Shands Hospital. It is run by the University of Florida.

Please keep us posted on what takes place. You will find the members of this site to be very helpful throughout the entire process. I found out 4 years ago about my condition. The valve worsened by Jan of this year. It was then I found this site. If would have more difficult for me to cope without this site. Everyone was a huge encouragement to me :D .

Karl

jx05 said:
Hi , I'm 37 and found out in Febuary 2005 I have a condition known as bicuspid aortic valve, I was surprised to here that, because I have no history of cardiovascular problems. I have been active in sports all my life, and had no idea of my condition. The doctor said I will need surgery within the year, I have an appointment in May to see the surgeon to talk about my options. I'm doing fine with the fact I need this done, but I have a concern because I have no insurance. If anyone knows of any organizations or insurances available that could help me , please let me know or any suggestions , also anyone has a figure of how much a mechanical valve surgery will cost. Any suggestions of which valve to select . thx
 
Welcome to the club

Welcome to the club

Hi.
I'm 32 and had the aortic valve/root job on April 15. I found that a good attitude helps and you certainly seem to have one. On the financial side I think mid to upper 80's is a fair number. I'm still waiting for the final word on mine, but from what I have seen so far mine cost around 88,000 with 5 days in the hospital. I'm not sure how the insurance bit will play out. I'm sure everything will play out fine for you. Hang in there and I will be praying for you.
T
 
I'm 40 and have a bicuspid aortic valve. My parents were told of my defect when I was a baby, and I've been followed throughout my life. Now my valve is moderately stenotic, severely regurgitant and I have an ascending aortic aneurysm...time for surgery.

All will be corrected, God willing, on June 1st at Mayo Clinic in MN.

My surgeon is recommending mechanical for me, especially since I'm done having kids. I think I'd consider a tissue valve if 20 years without a re-operation was a slam dunk, but it's not. I know it's not a total slam dunk with a mechanical valve either (people with mechanical valves sometimes require re-surgery for various reasons, too), but the stats will be on my side if I go mechanical.

I encourage you to read many of the earlier threads on this site. The "Search" function is really useful if you're looking for a particular piece of information.
 
Welcome jx and I'll ask before Bonnie does...what's your first name?

Most states have what is referred to as the "Health Risk Pool" for insurance and Florida has it, but it's been closed to new applicants since 1991 because of lack of funding. Who's your Governor?? :eek:

Here's a link where you can read about it: http://www.nahu.org/government/issues/Risk_Pools/High_Risk_Pools.htm

Your Governor actually has a Task Force on the issue:
http://www.nahu.org/government/issues/Risk_Pools/FL_High_Risk_Pool.doc
Taken from the above website: ?Right now, other than the existing high-risk pool, which has been closed to new applicants since 1991, there is no means for medically uninsurable individuals in Florida to obtain coverage in the individual health insurance market. Re-opening the Florida pool would provide thousands of Floridians, who through no fault of their own do not have access to group health insurance coverage and cannot obtain affordable individual market health coverage due to a medical condition, with affordable coverage. Furthermore, traditional individual market and small-group health insurance consumers in Florida will benefit from the re-opening of the pool, since the individuals with the greatest health risks would be removed from these traditional insurance markets."

I'd give them a call or an e-mail and see if what the current status of the program is.
Goodluck to you in your quest for knowledge and welcome aboard.
 
Your valve disease is not truly "cardiovascular". Many of us have valve disease, with a whistle-clean vascular network. Your bicuspid valve, nor my mitral valve prolapse, has nothing to do with how physically fit you are. I know, it's a shocker when you're going along thinking you're taking good care of your body and then, boom, open heart surgery. It was just a genetic roll of the dice for you.

The good news is that you will be able to continue to remain active and enjoy everything you always have. Best wishes.
 
Ditto Karlynn's comments about your valve issue being unrelated to vascular problems--and good luck convincing the people around you of that! ;)

Everyone assumes my surgery was a bypass and wonders why I needed it at age 31. Even when I try to explain, most of them just don't get it. <sigh> I know that OHS-prejudice ranks pretty low on the list of morale injustices, but it is a little frustrating to get disapproving looks when I mention my surgery.

At any rate, good luck and please keep us posted about your health (of course!) and also anything you find on financial resources--it's information that I'm sure future readers will thank you for.

Tim
 
Hi Jx05, I had my valve replacement surgery just 3 weeks ago, so I'm still new at all this. As far as the type of valve you should choose, it is truly a personal decision that you should only make after getting as much information about the options available to you. I had opted for the Ross Procedure, but during surgery, it was determined that my pulmonic valve wasn't a good match for the aortic replacement, so I ended up with my second choice, a mechanical valve. There is a huge amount of information that you can find about all the different options right here on the internet. I wish you the best of luck in your surgery. Jim
 
same boat as you

same boat as you

KAJ said:
I am 47 and just had my bicuspid aortic valve replaced. I do not mean to alarm you, but was anything said about your having an aortic aneuryism? Some biscupid aortic valve patients such as myself also have the aneuryism. You may not have it, but if you are not certain, ask your doctor about it.
Where in Flordia do you live? I live in Jacksonville. My cardiologist sent me out of state due to my past medical history. My insurance was billed for over 100K. We are still waiting to see what the surgeon charged. If you are near Jacksonville, you may want call Shands Hospital. It is run by the University of Florida.

Please keep us posted on what takes place. You will find the members of this site to be very helpful throughout the entire process. I found out 4 years ago about my condition. The valve worsened by Jan of this year. It was then I found this site. If would have more difficult for me to cope without this site. Everyone was a huge encouragement to me :D .

Karl

Hello,

It would seem as if I am in the same boat as you were. I am going for my third surgical consult tomorrow as I have been diagnosed with an Aortic Bisucpid valve (2 years ago) which has most likey lead to me having this Ascending aortic aneurysm (4.8cm). This is the real reason for surgery as it has caused me pain and the size is now dangerous. It seems like they will have to replant the root as well (not sure if this is standard, did they do it for you?). I also did an Angiogram Friday and it looks as if 1/2 the Arch is larger as well so this may have to be done as well (the surgeons said that they really would not know until I was open), if so then a more difficult procedure called a deep hypothermic cardiac arrest would have to be performed as well.

I am 34 male and in good shape, bmi 21 (5'9 160). I have done ekg, electro, ct (which diagnosed the ANEURYSM) and cannot beleive this is happening!!

I would like any insight that can be provided as well. Glad you seem to be doing well and hope that you make a full recovery. Can you provide me details on your post op ETC ETC?

Thank you
 
Coryp,

I will be more than happy to help you any way I can. My aneurysm was just a tad smaller than yours (4.5cm). It did never caused me any pain. There is no telling how long it has been there. My cardiologist thought that my aortic root would probably need to be repaired or replaced. When we spoke to the surgeon, he said he would not be able to tell what may need to be done to the root until the surgery. As it turned out, the surgeon said the root was fine. The only thing that needed to be done was the valve replaced, and the
aneurysm repaired.

I am not sure which is worse, having time to wonder if I need surgery and when (as was my case) or in your case needing it very soon. I do have several suggestions for in 2 catagories
A. Before the surgery
1. In the event that something would happen (not that it would), the surgery does have risks, but the alternative would not be good. In light of that, make certain you have a will and a living will. Please do not take chances. Make your wishes known now.
2. Do not try and get everything done before the surgery, it will not happen. I tried but finally gave up. It is not worth the stress, especially before surgery.
3. If your surgery will be out of town and you have a spouse or someone who will be with you, start checking the location of a hotel, many hotels offer rates for people who are there because of a relative having surgery. For example, my surgery was done at the University of Alabama Hospital - Birmingham (UAB). The Raddison was only two blocks away. My wife, parents, brother and my sister-in-law were all able to get UAB rates.
4. Bring tapes, CDs, whatever helps you to relax. I did not feel like reading for several days, but the CDs helped me to relax. Also, if you wear contacts but also have glasses, bring the glasses. After the surgery ask for them, it may help to put you at ease because you can see what is going on around you. You may not feel like putting in contacts for the first few days.
5. Regardless of where you have the surgery, it is important to have a relative or friend with you as much as possible. However, they will also need their own down time. Whoever is with you should ask questions, such as what are those pills for, ask for specifics such as what did the x-ray show. Do not accept generalities. This also extremely important when getting your instructions for discharge, (which should also be in writing). You will probably not be able to remember most of the instructions.
6. Start now to review many of the posts in the pre-surgery and post-surgery threads. You will find many suggestions and experiences there as well.
7. Plan on being gone from work for at least 6 weeks. I went back full-time at 6 weeks and am exhausted by end of the day.
B. After the surgery
1. you will start to walk shortly after you get out of ICU. Start slow, but do walk as often as your doctor will allow.
2. Use the incentive sperometer. It will help your lungs. Make it your new toy for a while.
3. When you feel like coughing try to cross your arms, place a hand on each shoulder, slightly pull toward the inside of your chest. The will help lessen the pain when you cough. I was not told about this until after I was out of the hospital and started physical therapy. To me that was a whole better than just grapping a pillow. I still do it from time to time.
4. Watch for sudden weight gain, swelling on any part of the body, especially feet and ankles and increasing shortness of breath. This may be a sign of fluid build-up. That is what happened to me. I gained 10 pounds in just 5 days after surgery (it was not because of the food). My wife kept trying to tell the nurses and surgical resident there was a problem, they denied it. I went home, 24 hours later, my wife had to call rescue because I had gone into congestive heart failure. Unfortunately that is one of the risks of the surgery. I was in a local hospital for 9 more days.
5. As your recovery progresses, you may feel like you can do more, DON'T.
I have to remind myself of that on a daily basis. You do not want do anything that would cause you to go back into the hospital.

Last but not least, talk to someone before and after the surgery. Tell them your fears, what you are currently experiencing and so forth. Standby, your emotions and mood will swing greatly after the surgery. It happens, do not be ashamed of it. It is perfectly normal after this type of surgery.
I sincerely hope these suggestions will be of help to you.
I do not pretend to have all of the answers, I can only share with you what I know from experience. Please do not be afraid to ask me more questions or anyone else in this site. Others may be able to mention something I have not. If you like, you send me a private message at any time.

Take Care,
Karl

coryp said:
Hello,

It would seem as if I am in the same boat as you were. I am going for my third surgical consult tomorrow as I have been diagnosed with an Aortic Bisucpid valve (2 years ago) which has most likey lead to me having this Ascending aortic aneurysm (4.8cm). This is the real reason for surgery as it has caused me pain and the size is now dangerous. It seems like they will have to replant the root as well (not sure if this is standard, did they do it for you?). I also did an Angiogram Friday and it looks as if 1/2 the Arch is larger as well so this may have to be done as well (the surgeons said that they really would not know until I was open), if so then a more difficult procedure called a deep hypothermic cardiac arrest would have to be performed as well.

I am 34 male and in good shape, bmi 21 (5'9 160). I have done ekg, electro, ct (which diagnosed the ANEURYSM) and cannot beleive this is happening!!

I would like any insight that can be provided as well. Glad you seem to be doing well and hope that you make a full recovery. Can you provide me details on your post op ETC ETC?

Thank you
 
Janie - our governor is Bush - every program in the entire state has been slashed to ribbons. Yet we have surpluses everywhere.

Anyhoo, welcome, J, to VR.com. We had another member who managed somehow to get her surgery done. She was near death (tiggerangelgirl), had no money, no insurance. She was in S Carolina (or N C). You might search her posts to see what she did. She got her surgery and last we heard she was doing very well. She finally ended up at the Cleveland Clinic where they saved her life. Go to your local state offices and check into Medicaid. If you fit the profile, there MIGHT be something there. Check out every program you can find, including the hospital. With so many citizens lacking insurance these days, there must be programs somewhere. Keep us posted. We have this situation come along from time to time and we need to pass on whatever information we can get.

I wish you well. You probably need to hang in here just to get some education about your valves.

Will you keep us posted?
 
Tiggerangelgirl lives in eastern N.C.
I believe she had her surgery at the Mayo Clinic,
after being turned down in NC.

It would be interesting to learn what assistance she was able to arrange and how she is doing now.
 
Al, I got her name right, tho. I was in the wrong church, wrong pew, wasn't I? We never did know just how she got her surgery done, that I know of. I don't know that she ever actually said - maybe somebody else knows? But it was amazing - all of it.
 
Jx,
Welcome to VR. com.
My husband Chris had a bicuspid aortic valve and after lots of research (enough to make your brain spin!) he chose the Ross Procedure. I would only have this done though, by an experienced surgeon who has performed MANY of these! Valve replacement is a personal choice, & my advice is to research all the options, ask lots of questions, grill the cardios and surgeons and try to make the decision that you feel is best for you.
Take care,
Yolanda
 
jx05 said:
Hi , I'm 37 and found out in Febuary 2005 I have a condition known as bicuspid aortic valve, I was surprised to here that, because I have no history of cardiovascular problems. I have been active in sports all my life, and had no idea of my condition. The doctor said I will need surgery within the year, I have an appointment in May to see the surgeon to talk about my options. I'm doing fine with the fact I need this done, but I have a concern because I have no insurance. If anyone knows of any organizations or insurances available that could help me , please let me know or any suggestions , also anyone has a figure of how much a mechanical valve surgery will cost. Any suggestions of which valve to select . thx
52 years old never had heart problem was told dec 18 the arotic vale was almost closed.Had it done dec 21 last year at yale new haven by dr.j. elefteriades.in hosp.for 5days cadiac rehab at wtby hosp. back to work in 8 weeks
 
jx,

I'm 24 and had a bicuspid AV replaced in September '04. I was very active as well. I'm now fully recovered and back to running, etc. Please feel free to message me or email me w/any questions you have. You will be in my prayers. I know this isn't fun to think about, but this type of surgery is done every day across the country/world. The worst part of it is the time waiting to have it done.

Email: [email protected] (put a good subj title in - I'm a Nazi about viruses/spam)

"For I know the plans I have for you declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11

God Bless.

Marcus
 
Watching and waiting

Watching and waiting

I have a bicuspid (with an underformed 3rd leaflet) aortic valve and I had a cardiologist and a cardiovascular surgeon tell me I needed surgery right away. Then a surgeon at Rush-Pres St. Luke's in Chicago referred me to my current cardiologist and after a stress MUGA and echo, we decided since I'm asymptomatic we can follow my condition and wait for any changes in ventricle size or other symptoms. This has been working for almost 10 years now and I am 43 years old. I don't know of your specific condition but given your lack of medical insurance you might want to get a second opinion to see if surgery is really necessary at this point. There do appear to be 2 camps - do it now while you're healthy don't take any chances, and watch and wait. Also, try a major teaching hospital in your area (probably this would be Gainsville FL for you), they do pro bono work often. Good luck.

jx05 said:
Hi , I'm 37 and found out in Febuary 2005 I have a condition known as bicuspid aortic valve, I was surprised to here that, because I have no history of cardiovascular problems. I have been active in sports all my life, and had no idea of my condition. The doctor said I will need surgery within the year, I have an appointment in May to see the surgeon to talk about my options. I'm doing fine with the fact I need this done, but I have a concern because I have no insurance. If anyone knows of any organizations or insurances available that could help me , please let me know or any suggestions , also anyone has a figure of how much a mechanical valve surgery will cost. Any suggestions of which valve to select . thx
 
40 years old and now 6 weeks post AVR (got myself a neatly clicking St. Judes)

as others have/will mention: do as much research as you can, in other words google until your modem 'glows' and check this forum out!

talk to different doctors/surgeons if possible, you will built yor own opinion over time.

timing: most of us who are asymptomatic, tend to postpone surgery (inclusive of myself) contrary to surgeons advise. However, in the meantime i am of the opinion: rather 6 month too early than 2 weeks to late.

well2u
ar bee
 
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