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The woman that I mentioned above who was told to stop warfarin for 9 days before a tooth extraction wrote back to say that this was her cardiologist's advice. When she asked the dentist why such a long hold, the dentist said that it was unnecessary - an INR of 2.5 was OK with him.
 
ALCapshaw2 said:
MLD -

Just because someone is a Doctor doesn't mean that they are up to date on the latest accepted procedures, which allows for doing many types of dental surgery while still on Coumadin but a a lower INR (typically around 2.0).

'AL'

I would whole-heartedly agree with this. I'm pretty happy with my cardiologist. I'm not seeing a Cleveland Clinic valve specialist, but a cardiologist that deals with many heart issues, not just valves, may sometimes need to be reminded of the current protocols. If they are a doctor worth their salt, they will not be insulted by being informed by a patients who takes the time and effort to become knowledgable of their own condition.
 
Thanks for everyone comments, I really appreciate them. My doctor said that lovenox is safe to take with my mechanical/artifical valve (I asked him twice) and I have read on this site that others have taken lovenox successfully. I guess it stuck in my head that I read somewhere that it said "DO NOT USE lovenox (enoxaparin) for prevention of blood clots if you have had a heart valve replacement especially if you are pregnant. Enoxaparin may be harmful in valve replacement patients."

Allodwick I read some of your posts on pregnancy and coumadin regarding pregnant women with valve replacements and lovenox. Will you explain to me how lovenox is harmful to the fetus and the mothers (can cause blood clots in the mothers) but is safe to use in women who are not pregnant and have mechanical/artifical valves. Hope this is not too confusing and sorry for being lengthy. thanks
 
Lovenox is usually given on a weight-adjusted basis for people with mechanical valves. In the African study the dose was not adjusted as the pregnant women gained weight. 20% of them and their fetuses died. From this the FDA jumped to the conclusion that nobody with valves should use Lovenox. This has since been reversed. However, Lovenox has not been studied very well in pregnant women. So there is no official FDA approval for its use in pregnancy. This does not necessarily mean that it is harmful, just that there is not enough data to draw any conclusion as to its safety or harmfulness.

One thing that is known is that people who have to use Lovenox (and probably Fragmin or Innohep etc) long-term do lose some calcium from their bones. A developing baby draws a lot of calcium from its mother's bones. Whether or not this can adequately be replaced by taking calcium is not known. Neither is it known whether or not this will cause a woman to have osteoporosis later in life. These products have only been on the market for about ten years so there are no long-term databases to make valid conclusions.
 
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