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TenPly

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...here I am. What's up everyone, my name is Bryan. I'm 21 years old and soon I'll be experiencing open heart surgery like many of you have. I didn't want to join this forum and talk about it partly because that would just make it more real. And I haven't quite grasped the reality of what I'm about to experience.

Finally I realized that this might help me along the way as I wait and prepare for this surgery on September 1, 2005.

3 years ago, I was a freshman in college when I visited the campus clinic because of neck pain. The doctor did a routine check on me and listened to my heart. She expressed concerned about the sound it was making and that was the day that I learned what a heart murmur was and that I had it. A very loud one too. She asked me to see my regular doctor about it soon and let me go.

Being the carefree college student I was, I just forgot about it and never did follow up with my doctor about it.

Fast-forward to May, 2004 -- I had just moved into my first apartment a week earlier and was driving in morning rush-hour. It was overcast that morning and suddenly, my heart began to flutter badly. It was bad -- felt like it was trembling viciously. Not beating, just sitting there trembling.

Everything went black and I ALMOST passed out. Keep in mind, I'm in the car on the freeway. By myself. Everything's going black, but the car is still moving. I panic, thinking I'm about to faint. I began to breathe deep and cough to try to get my heart beating right again. It worked and thankfully I avoided passing out and kept driving (I sure did!), thanking God for not letting me crash.

Whoo, this is already too long.

I brushed off that incident and continued to my destination. After telling my parents about it later that day, they freaked and made me go to the ER the next morning to get checked out. I did. Fell asleep in the waiting room while I waited. I told him what happened, he asked me questions and checks me out. And here comes the stethescope. Now I'm in a bed in the ER, where they performed 12,572 tests on me and ultimately, I'm admitted to the hospital. Everybody is worried. I'm annoyed.

During that time, they monitored me, tried some meds out on me for fun, drew blood and tested it a lot and 36 hours later, I was released with a prescription for Lopressor.

While I was there, the doctors educated me about my heart and informed me that my mitral valve was leaking and I may need surgery for it "down the line", but not right now. Remember, this was last year.

Fast-forward again to January 5, 2005. I go to see my regular doctor and he checks me out. Overall, I'm super-healthy EXCEPT...

He whips out that stethescope and gets an earful of my noisy heart murmur. It's a loud one for sure. I get a referral to the cardiologist. Days later, I'm there, and they do an echo of my heart. Afterwards the head cardiologist comes in with a couple of her collegues to inform me that my leaky valve is at it's worst point and surgery is necessary NOW.

I'm a strong, resilient person...but after leaving the hospital that day, I got on the phone with my mom & dad and cried, telling him what they said. I went over their house teary-eyed, showing them the test results from the echo. They comforted me and I began to educate myself about mitral valve regurgitation.

I had two appointments following that echo. One with a cardiologist at the International Heart Institute at Loma Linda University Medical Center. He prescribed Coreg and referred me to the cardiothoracic surgeon.

A week later, I went into my appointment with the surgeon rather non-chalantly. Still not realizing the magnitude of all this. He looked over some notes, test results and checked me out. Then threw out a bombshell. "Bryan, you need two new valves -- an aortic valve and a mitral valve." He was puzzled by the severity of my condition and my complete lack of symptoms.

He showed great concern and wanted to move things along quickly. I was scheduled for a CT scan of my chest %2(to measure my ascending aorta) in 4 days. In the meantime, I raced off to Las Vegas with family. Then I came home.

CT scan was done that Tuesday and a week later, I saw the surgeon again. He examined the results. With an EF of 45% for my mitral valve and an aortic root dialated to 5 cm, we finally scheduled surgery. He went over some things with me and then offered a short prayer with me before the appointment was over.

Now, with my surgery scheduled, I'm facing a mitral valve replacement, aortic valve replacement and an aortic root replacement on 9/1/05.

I've been reading this site and it's been incredibly helpful as I wait. I'll be grateful to get through this and go on with my life. I plan to post updates for you guys before, not during, and after my surgery. I don't see too many kids my age who share the same experience talking about this. So hopefully my story will help another person (young or old) who's facing the same thing as all of your stories are helping me!

I'll keep everyone updated!
 
Hi Bryan,

Welcome to VR.com :) I guess it's a place we all wish we hadn't needed to find, but now we're here, we all try to get each other through the tough times with as much information as possible, compassion, the occasional argument, laughs and nail-biting.

You're right that there aren't many young people who post but I think that's because they're out getting on with their post-valve replacement lives. My boyfriend Jim was 26 when he was told he needed his aortic valve replaced, so a bit older than you, but equally unprepared. He'd been getting some chest pains for a while but just kind of ignored them until I nagged him to get it checked out. Then he was told he needed a new aortic valve. :eek: He'd been fairly asymptomatic, which I think is fairly common especially in young, fit people as their bodies somehow cope better with the extra workload placed on their heart. But after his AVR he started to realise that he actually felt better :D . He's been clicking away (he chose a mechanical valve) happily for the past 20 months and has not changed a single thing about his lifestyle, other than drinking less alcohol and spending even more time (if that's humanly possible) in his workshop with his beloved motorbikes!

Anyway, I'm sure some of the other young valvers who do post will be along later - maybe later in the week as weekends tend to be a bit quiet round here.

Again, welcome. No question is too silly to ask, so go ahead and let us help you out with anything that you may be wondering or worrying about.

Gemma.
 
Hi Bryan and welcome to our world.

Rest assured, you are not alone. We have another member that was younger then you even, ILoveNewYork, that needed all of the above. She is doing well and stops in from time to time. Heart problems are not age discriminatory at all. I was 33 when mine started. 10 years later and two surgeries under my belt and I'm still here, so it can be done.

Are you in the process of deciding such things as valves etc? Might be a good place to start. Keep doing what you've been doing and learn all there is to learn in the short time you have. Being informed makes all the difference in the world.

My big thing is, you should only do this surgery one time, if it can be helped at all, which would mean mechanical valves and Coumadin for life. Being young as you are, depending on your lifestyle, it may or may not be right for you, but my suggestion to you is to go that route. Since your starting so early in life, thinking of quite a few repeat surgeries later is probably not in your best interests.

Well welcome and absorb as much as possible and if you want to learn more about Coumadin, since some like to make it out to be the most evil med on earth, see our resident experts site, Al Lodwicks at www.warfarinfo.com It will help dispell the huge myths and expose lots of truth about Coumadin. ;)
 
Hi Bryan!

Welcome to VR.com! I'm glad that you found us. This site was such a godsend for me when I found out I had to have open heart surgery. I'm 24 and am about 2.5 months post-op from my 1st surgery. I had surgery while I was still in school (I'm a 3rd year veterinary student), but managed to make it out okay. :) The best thing about this place is realizing that you are not alone!! Everyone is so helpful here too. I like to know EVERYTHING I can about things, so this site really gave me what I needed. But I understand your reluctance to post. Once the doctors start talking about open heart surgery, THEN they schedule it...well, admitting it just makes to way too real.

How have you been holding up? I myself was SO angry about it all. After all, I was a healthy 24-year old, that was way too young to need anything as serious as open heart surgery! And then the thought of having my chest cracked open and being under anesthesia really freaked me out. But I went through it and survived. Afterwards I couldn't believe what a big deal I had made out of it. It wasn't nearly as painful as I thought it'd be. They give you really good drugs. :) I didn't enjoy being so wimpy afterwards and I pushed myself way too hard to keep up in school. I also had some complications with pericardial effusion which warranted another surgery. But like I said, I survived it, and I have no doubt that you will too.

Please feel free to private message me (or anyone else) if you have any questions, or just need support. I received alot of private messages and made a really good friend who helped me out alot in the time leading up to and after my surgery. Again, you are NOT alone! Please keep us updated on everything. We look forward to seeing you "on the other side." :)

Liza
 
hello!

hello!

Welcome to this place, this wonderful place. There are many opinions here and many, many personal experiences. Each one will give you more ideas of how to talk with your doctors and family about the decisions you need to make. I'm actually in the Waiting Room along with several others. We know about our condition and have been told we will be having surgery, but aren't ripe for it yet. It drives us crazy, being in this limbo. It really helps to watch people go in, come out and be okay. Thank you for already being so willing to keep us posted through your journey.

I was not much older than you when they told me I had a bad aortic valve. The cardio gave me strict but easy instructions which I followed. (use antibiotics for dental visits or invasive surgeries and check in if your breathing becomes labored or you have unexplained chest pressure). Their best guess was that I'd be in my 70's before I needed any surgical involvement......well, I've been on a 6 month watch now for 2 years and I'm 51. I've often wondered if it was my hard partying years (and having 3 children) which brought me to this waiting zone, but hey. whatever. I'm here now and I've got this huge group of experienced people pulling for me. I know you?ll be glad you joined us. Feel free to ask anything, usually someone has an answer or a link!

Take care. As the parent of a, 23, 20 and 17 year old, I know that your parents are probably very tentative and concerned. (as in, if my kid told me your story I'd be hysterical!! :eek: )Knowledge brings power and relief. You'll find that here. Your parents are certainly welcome here, too!! Thank you for stopping in and we?ll be looking for you!!

From up I-5 aways.....

:) Marguerite
 
Hi Bryan and welcome!!!

While we may not be the place you want to be at this point in your life, we will be here for you. I'm Evelyn, whose husband, Tyce, had AVR 6/02....at age 59. I don't believe age has anything to do with your emotions when you're told the proverbial, "It's time." It doesn't affect you any differently whether you're 21 or 75.

Does it suck????Yep, it does. But you get through that and then focus on where you're going, who's doing the surgery, etc., etc., etc.

I guarantee that this group of wonderful folks will be here for you from start to finish...Feel free to ask questions, share emotions, frustrations, and anything else.....we do understand where you're coming from.

Again, welcome.

Evelyn
 
Hi Bryan, I'm sorry you are going thru this. I have a 17 year old son Justin, who just had his 4th OHS, I know he is a little younger than you, but if you'd like to talk to him he just had his surg in May so could probably answer alot of your questions about what it feels like and things like that, BTW he is at Atlantic City surfing today. I know you will have to make decisions about mechanical or tissue valves and My concerns about Justin (who plays bass :eek:) )and coumadin, wasn't actually being on coumadin as much as actually rememberring to take the meds when he moved out, get his blood tested and actually filling and picking up the prescriptions,. but the down side of tissue of course is more heart surgeries. Justin will need his conduit replaced anyway so we went tissue. My husband is a sound tech and travelled for years and I know that on the road it is hard to be consistent and eat right. here's a link to Justin's page www.caringbridge.org/nj/justinw if you read the journel starting in may it can give you an idea of what his experiance was like. feel free to email me if you would like and I can give you his AIM sn if you want to talk to him, I will keep you in my prayers, Lyn
 
Welcome Bryan! I may not be young now, but I was when my mitral valve problems started. I was 22 when it was diagnosed, I was 26 when I began having real issues and symptoms and I was 32 when I had my valve replaced with a St. Jude mechanical. That was almost 14 years ago. Life is good, active and wonderful. This is a life-saving surgery for you, not a life-ending event. The great things in life will return to you. The only life-ending part is to not have the surgery. My son had a frat brother who had a mechanical valve. He only found out about it because they were in the laundry room one day and my son heard a quiet ticking and asked him if he had a mechanical valve. The guys activities never gave any hint to his frat brothers than anything was different about him.

Glad you took the jump and posted. You'll find all the support you need here. We've all "been there, done that".
 
Welcome Bryan,

Quite a story you have. I have traveled the freeways of So Cal so I know that even a sneeze while in that traffic can be dangerous. Your situation is one you were lucky to get out of. :eek: :eek: :eek:

I am happy you found out what was going on and have things in place to fix it. It is not a picnic but try to be happy you are alive in the times that have solutions for valve problems. You can get them fixed and move on with your life.

Good luck on your valve choice decision. It is not easy to choose as there are so many variables. However, please talk it over with your surgeon so he knows your preferences. You also can choose to leave it up to him but you should at least have the conversation.

Stick around and you will find the answers you seek and need.
 
TenPly said:
...here I am. What's up everyone, my name is Bryan. I'm 21 years old and soon I'll be experiencing open heart surgery like many of you have. I didn't want to join this forum and talk about it partly because that would just make it more real. And I haven't quite grasped the reality of what I'm about to experience.

Finally I realized that this might help me along the way as I wait and prepare for this surgery on September 1, 2005.

3 years ago, I was a freshman in college when I visited the campus clinic because of neck pain. The doctor did a routine check on me and listened to my heart. She expressed concerned about the sound it was making and that was the day that I learned what a heart murmur was and that I had it. A very loud one too. She asked me to see my regular doctor about it soon and let me go.

Being the carefree college student I was, my life was more about my friends, partying, rock n roll and playing drums (and sometimes school). I never did follow up with my doctor about it.

Fast-forward to May, 2004 -- I had just moved into my first apartment a week earlier and was driving in morning rush-hour. It was overcast that morning and suddenly, my heart began to flutter badly. It was bad -- felt like it was trembling viciously. Not beating, just sitting there trembling.

Everything went black and I ALMOST passed out. Keep in mind, I'm in the car on the freeway. By myself. Everything's going black, but the car is still moving. I panic, thinking I'm about to faint. I began to breathe deep and cough to try to get my heart beating right again. It worked and thankfully I avoided passing out and kept driving (I sure did!), thanking God for not letting me crash.

Whoo, this is already too long.

I brushed off that incident and continued to my destination. After telling my parents about it later that day, they freaked and made me go to the ER the next morning to get checked out. I did. Fell asleep in the waiting room while I waited. I told him what happened, he asked me questions and checks me out. And here comes the stethescope. Now I'm in a bed in the ER, where they performed 12,572 tests on me and ultimately, I'm admitted to the hospital. Everybody is worried. I'm annoyed.

During that time, they monitored me, tried some meds out on me for fun, drew blood and tested it a lot and 36 hours later, I was released with a prescription for Lopressor.

While I was there, the doctors educated me about my heart and informed me that my mitral valve was leaking and I may need surgery for it "down the line", but not right now. Remember, this was last year.

Fast-forward again to January 5, 2005. I go to see my regular doctor and he checks me out. Overall, I'm super-healthy EXCEPT...

He whips out that stethescope and gets an earful of my noisy heart murmur. It's a loud one for sure. I get a referral to the cardiologist. Days later, I'm there, and they do an echo of my heart. Afterwards the head cardiologist comes in with a couple of her collegues to inform me that my leaky valve is at it's worst point and surgery is necessary NOW.

I'm a strong, resilient person...but after leaving the hospital that day, I got on the phone with my mom & dad and cried, telling him what they said. I went over their house teary-eyed, showing them the test results from the echo. They comforted me and I began to educate myself about mitral valve regurgitation.

I had two appointments following that echo. One with a cardiologist at the International Heart Institute at Loma Linda University Medical Center. He prescribed Coreg and referred me to the cardiothoracic surgeon.

A week later, I went into my appointment with the surgeon rather non-chalantly. Still not realizing the magnitude of all this. He looked over some notes, test results and checked me out. Then threw out a bombshell. "Bryan, you need two new valves -- an aortic valve and a mitral valve." He was puzzled by the severity of my condition and my complete lack of symptoms.

He showed great concern and wanted to move things along quickly. I was scheduled for a CT scan of my chest (to measure my ascending aorta) in 4 days. In the meantime, I raced off to Las Vegas with some buddies and partied. Hard. Then I came home.

CT scan was done that Tuesday and a week later, I saw the surgeon again. He examined the results. With an EF of 45% for my mitral valve and an aortic root dialated to 5 cm, we finally scheduled surgery. He went over some things with me and then offered a short prayer with me before the appointment was over.

Now, with my surgery scheduled, I'm facing a mitral valve replacement, aortic valve replacement and an aortic root replacement on 9/1/05.

I've been reading this site and it's been incredibly helpful as I wait. I'll be grateful to get through this and go on with my life. I plan to post updates for you guys before, not during, and after my surgery. I don't see too many kids my age who share the same experience talking about this. So hopefully my story will help another person (young or old) who's facing the same thing as all of your stories are helping me!

I'll keep everyone updated!

Hi Bryan,

Welcome to VR.com. You will find everything you need to know about your upcoming surgery on this site, more information than any doctor or specialist will ever tell you. They don't have the time nor take the time to sit and talk with you that long. He's got to get on to other patients. Remember, medicine is big business these days.
Below is a link that'll get you familiar with the surgery.

http://www.healthyhearts.com/valvesurgery.htm

Yes, the surgery looks a bit scary when you don't know much about it but remember: KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.. So read all you can so you will go in being informed and educated about the whole thing.

I had surgery 5 years ago today to be exact, and had my Aortic valve replaced with a shiny St.Jude's. I do whatever I want, and taking Coumadin has not made me become an invalid. I don't always like it though, because I bruise easily these days, but I see my valvereplacement as a life saver. Without it I would not be here today to enjoy my life and my family. So I realize I ought to be thankful for the medical improvements that have been achieved over the past 40-50 years. These surgeries are routine anymore and thousands are performed all over the world every day. This country still has the best surgeons I believe, so find a good one in your area. Have your questions ready before you go see the surgeon, or e-mail or fax them ahead of time and make sure he answers them all.

Valve choice is a personal one, and no choice is wrong. My choice was decided by my surgeon and he explained that you don't want to do this surgery too many times, so he decided I should get a mechanical one, but the downside is that I have to take Coumadin for the rest of my life. Well. just a pill every day, but it needs to be monitored by either a Coumadin clinic or doctor or you can home test like I have done for the past 4 1/2 years.

I know you'll do just fine. Most of us do. You are young and within 6 weeks you will feel much better. I also know that within 3 months you will be doing everything you did before. Just make sure the sternum has healed before you start lifting anything heavy again. So no crazy stuff and acting out the tough guy like Arnold Schwartzenegger who thought that he could do whatever he wanted a couple days after his surgery by riding the bike too fast and hard. He blew out his new valve and the surgery had to be re-done. He had the Ross procedure the first time so that meant that now two of his valves needed replacing. I believe he chose tissue valves which don't require anticoagulation therapy. (Coumadin)

I wish you well my friend. Come back often and let us know how you are doing. We'll be here to help you through this until you are over the mountain and we'll meet you on the other side.
 
Welcome, sorry you have to be here at such a tender age, but now you can be more informed. when you are down from the mountain, lets have a cup of coffee,ok? Hope all goes well for you,love Yaps
 
Hi, Bryan, and welcome... I am so glad that you have found this forum, I just had aorta valve replacement 2 weeks ago, and this group has been a god send. Sometimes the reassurance from those of us who have "been there". I have logged on day and night and always seem to feel better just knowing that I can ask any question even if it seems minor... Once again, welcome, and take advantage of these great people.. Rose
 
Hey Bryan! You've come to the right place and the right people. I was barely 22 when I had my first open heart surgery and 29 when I had my mitral valve replaced. I know how scared you were when you first heard what was ahead of you but take it one day at a time, ask a lot of questions, do your research, and get as much support as possible from people who have "been there and done that" (which is us). We of course do not have all the answers, but we're all pretty good listeners, and we can tell you our experiences. I'm almost 53 now and I just found this website in June 2005. I continue to learn so many things from these "friends" on here and I know you will too. I only wish there was something like this back when I was 22. But then, computers (as we know them now) hadn't even been invented! Hang in there and WELCOME!!!!!!!!
 
Wow! Thanks everyone for your responses, I didn't expect that many!!! It certainly feels good to know that so many people overcame the hardest part (the surgery) and are doing well. My surgeon highly recommends the mechanical valves for me. He pretty much made the decision for me. I'm fine with it and I'm willing to take Coumadin daily if I don't have to have my chest cut open again!

Everyone who said that "knowledge is power" is exactly right. I'm reading everything I can and it helps a ton. Also, if anyone has questions about me don't hesitate to ask.

I'm already making plans for what I'll do during my recovery. Since I won't be able to play my drums, I'm going to teach myself to play piano! I bought a nice portable digital piano and some books, and that'll be my hobby for the 6 or so weeks I'll be at home. :) But as soon as my doctor gives me the okay to pick up my drumsticks again -- watch out! I'll ditch that piano so fast...

Anyway, thanks again for the replies everyone! Talk soon...

-Bryan
 
Hi Bryan, welcome to the site. I had my mitral valve replaced with tissue valve in the middle of junior year in college, when I was 21. I?m 23 now, and have one more semester of school to go. I found this site after surgery, and it has been very helpful.

It?s really good that you are making fun post-op plans, as having things to look forward to will pull you through the first few not-so-stellar days in the ICU.

Good luck with your research, surgery, and mastering the piano. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or just want to talk.
 
Bryan, I meant to tell you, I have a good frined who is a fellow 'heart mom" and lives 10 min for LL and is there a couple times a week checking on eht heart kids, she knows pretty much all there is about LL and if you want to talk to her let me know Lyn www.caringbridge.org/nj/justinw
 
TenPly: Good luck with your surgery and recovery. As a mom of a drummer (He is only 12 and I'm hoping gets better at it and then the loud part will be just fine with me!) I think you might also extend an invitation to your mom to check out this website. It might help her with any questions she has. As you can tell from the people on this site, we all go on to do pretty much whatever we want after surgery. There are some who are more involved and with more surgeries under their belt than others, but everyone listens and gives good feedback.
Rock on.
What kind of music do you play?
Laura /LLJ
 
Bryan, the hardest parts are the realization of what is happening to you, the acceptance and moving ahead to deal with it, and the waiting.

You sleep through the actual heart procedure, and someone else is responsible for it.

Try not to lose it too much, although you may on and off. It's a lot to take in. This is a good place to scream occasionally if you need to, because we all understand why. We will be with you in this, in some way.

Best wishes,
 
Hi Bryan.

Welcome to the fold.

You're young and otherwise healthy and you're going to do great in surgery. Visualize yourself happy and healthy post-surgery and try to stay positive.
 
Welcome!!

Welcome!!

HEY..Welcome to this fourm...

I am 23 years old and am having my aortic valve replaced on August 19th...it is VERY scary..but talking to all these WONDERFUL people has helped me ALOT :D

I am sort of in the same boat as you are...When was younger I had two operations on my heart (one was when I was just a few months and the other one was when I was 7) so being that I am now in my 20's that stuff doesn't seem "real" to me...I knew I had problems with my heart but since I didn't actully remember the surgeries I just kinda pretended they didnt happen (which was hard to do cuz I was left with some nasty scars :p ) I went on with my life and partied it up...I never gave my heart a second thought...

Then about a year and half ago..I got pregnant. I went to my first doctor's appoinment and they told me that I would have to see a High-Risk doctor...well he recommended that I see a cardiologist...just to be on the safe side...needless to say that my appointment with the cardiologist didnt go very well...and he referend me to yet another doctor (one that was an hour away from my hometown) so I went there and they told me that because of my pregnancy, my aortic valve was not handling it very well...

Well to make long story short, my pregancy was TERRIBLE and I had my baby early...he is doing great right now, but me on the other hand is facing OHS in just 2 weeks!! It is VERY scarey to think about having surgery...but it is also scarey to think that there is something wrong with your heart...ignoring it wont make it go away (it will only get worse) You are lucky that you are otherwise a very healthy person and you don't have any real symptoms right now...

I am trying to look on the bright side of things...I know that may sound a little "corny" but that is what keeps me going...I'm not really thinking about the surgery itself...more of what I'm going to do after the surgery...and how good I will feel to finally be able to put this "nightmare" behind me...I mean I know that it will never be able to go away, and that I will have to take better care of myself...but right now it's ALL I worry about...

Coming on this forum and talking to other people has helped me alot...they are all very nice and are willing to answer any questions you have...and it helps talking to people that have actully experienced this stuff...

Well good luck with your surgery, I'm sure everything will work out just fine ;)
 

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