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Robt Z

it was about 6 months ago i cancelled my colonoscopy for fear re stopping warfarin and possible complications if they had to cut a polyp or something. 2 months ago my cardiologist said she thinks if i have a colonoscopy that i should stay on warfarin for it and if they see something they would have to do it again to cut it when i was off warfarin.

I did some calling and they have a new ctscan colonscopy test at the local university hospital they were unveiling about a month or two ago.

Anyone got any new info on this subject. I remember several messages we discussed this in august or sept 02.

RZ
 
I think Janie wrote about this back in January. Maybe somebody can find it. We had a long thread going back then.
 
Just had a colonoscopy and didn't stop coumadin because the Dr's didn't say to do that. At the hospital as they were putting me down the surgeon read my medical reports and in a surprised voice ask if I had taken my coumadin the past few days? I told him yes, nobody had said not to. The surgeon got all huffy and sort of yelled at me and I sort of yell right back. Damn Kid!
Anyway he said if he found a polyp I would just have to come back again because he wasn't going to cause any bleeding.

The point of this story is that these Doctors don't always communicate with each other and at least this one didn't read the medical report prior to the day of the exam or even the morning of said exam. It is up to us to make sure they know vital information. Lucky me didn't have any polyps so it all worked out and I will never have to see that surgeon again. Damn Kid!

By the way isn't that stuff they make you drink terrible? Eight ounces every quarter hour for three hours. There has got to be another way!
 
Hi Bob-

NOT reading the chart is a really BIG time problem in the medical profession. It doesn't surprise me. Many patients have voluminous charts and most doctors and nurses are over their heads with patients. Your doctor's huffiness is just him trying to cover his bottom for his little mistakey.

I can't tell you how many times I have caught medical personnel not reading the chart (Joe's charts are very large), and I have also caught many mistakes as a result.

Everyone here needs to be aware that this can and does happen.

I guess that's why Clif Notes became so popular, LOL.

You are so right about that stuff you have to drink. It's horrible. So I'm happy for you that you don't have to go back and redo it.
 
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Agreed/agreed

Agreed/agreed

Ditto Bob on the taste of that stuff (pineapple flavored yuck) and ditto to both Bob and Nancy re data sharing. I try to get copies of all diagnostic reports and keep them in a briefcase which accompanies me when I am undergoing new specialists diagnostics. On more than one occasion, my files have made the difference between continuing an exam, or coming back another day after the doc gets files caught up. these guys may be good doctors (I hope) but don't count on them being good data sharers cause you will be both surprised and inconvenienced. Chris
 
There are pills you can take now prior to a colonoscopy. But you still have to drink water. I've got to have one this year because of family history, I'll see about those pills.

Last time I took the yucky stuff, someone told me that it would taste a lot better if it was cold. That was bad too, not only was my body totally depleted of electrolytes and everything else, but I was shaking all over from drinking volumes of very cold liquid. I had to put on three layers of clothing.
Now they're saying that there is a new blood test that might make this test not so relavent. I don't think it's too far away from being approved. It could be even now.

Maybe someone else knows more about that.
 
Hope it goes well

Hope it goes well

Hi Nancy - If you find out more about this, please let us know. The anti pinapple tasting yucky yuppies will forever be in your debt. Chris ;)
 
Colonoscopy

Colonoscopy

My PCP made an appointment for me in August to have a consult about a colonoscopy..Dec. 15th... Just saw on T.V...about the virtual..I am going to cancel my appointment,,and talk to my PCP in Feb..again..Too much going on now...Might be another few months..but don't want to deal with the coumadin again. Did great going off it for Dental work...Need a break from doctor's now..LOL..Bonnie
 
I don't blame you Bonnie! My husband was watching the same news item and he was so intrigued with it. He has had a few colonoscopies and hated every one of them.

I'm ready for a break from doctors and tests too. I can certainly understand how you feel.
 
Betty

Betty

When I had my complete physical from my PCP in August..He said..O.K. your heart is fine...Now I'm going to schedule you for all the tests you need at your age...He did the Pap smear..fine..Mamo..came back..something is not right. Scared me to death. Went back again..everything normal...Then, hubby had the cath of heart...put on meds...Now, we both went today to pick up meds..Eckard's moved into new building. Had to wait one hour for our meds and still had not called for my coumadin refill. even tho I told them 3 days ago. to call my clinical nurse...They had people lined up very mad who had called in 2-3 days ago..Elderly.. I was standing there for 1 hour..then they closed the gate to drug people and more elderly in line. Said..they take a break from 2-2:30... Didn't trust them to call my Card..so I had to come home and call again to Card's office. Have 3 days left on coumadin. Because my hubby has a common name..John Anderson..was the reason they didn't have his ready ( 3 days ago I called) First thing they ask is a home number..on machine. Why didn't they call me back.:eek: :eek: :eek: Now, I have to get up and call Eckard's tomorrow to see if they got my refill ready...If not..will drive the 30 miles to Card's office..get the script and drive back home to drug store.......Life is suppose to be simple...but computers and phone machines can kill us..us.:eek: :eek: ....I called an insurance company about getting some house insurance for my son at 2 P.M....Lady said..good morning..Joking, I said..Good afternoon. She rudely said..Whatever.:mad: :mad: :mad: I almost hung up..but he needs it for the closing on his house the 19th... Sorry to vent...Whatever happen to the simple life????Bonnie
 
fax prescriptions

fax prescriptions

why drive 30 miles to get a script when doctor can call it in or fax it to pharmacy. sounds unnecessary?
 
Robtz

Robtz

Just like I said on human person at drug store..Call my Card...They did not..Today. they said. after a 1 hour wait..we are waiting for Card's office to call back... down to 3 pills..damn if I will wait for machines, ect..... Who care anymore?...They are too busy taking their lunch breaks... Bonnie
 
After several stunts like that at our pharmacy, I finally let 'em have it with both barrels. Now they do everything right because they know I'll be on their case like nobody's business. Sorry you have to go through it, it's all so unnecessary and a total pain when there are about a bazillion prescriptions to get all the time.
 
Robt Z:

I've been interested in more about the virtual colonoscopy since my mother & her mother had colon cancer. Mom had it 26 years ago at age 50; my grandmother had it at age 61, I think, and lived to be 99.5YO.
I had my first colonoscopy 2 years ago and the gastroenterologist removed 2 polyps. Was told I should have started colonoscopies @ age 40 (10 years before age my closest relative was diagnosed with colon cancer).
My PCP says I will need another one this spring (every 3 years).

I checked the database at the newspaper where I work and found an article dated 1/7/2002 by our medical writer. She wrote that cost of a virtual colonoscopy was $500-$1,000 and only 2 places in the Dallas-Fort Worth area did the procedures, one was a medical school I think and the other was an imaging location. Cost of a traditional colonoscopy was listed as $1,500.

Being able to forgo that fiberoptic tube would be great. As I understand it from TV news earlier this week, "most" patients can have a traditional procedure the same day if a polyp is found. I don't think someone on Coumadin falls under the category of "most" patients. I'd hate to have to do the prep all over again and take more time off from work.
 
It's ironic that this thread is here today. I am killing time before going in for my 5 yr colonoscopy. The dreaded pineapple? stuff is done! Boy that stuff is awful!! I asked about the virtual C. and the doc said it doesn't pick up very small polyps. On the news the other nite I saw where the virtual picked up a polyp that the regular C missed. So who do you believe. I have been taking Lovenox injections prior to this procedure. I wouldn't do this on or off the coumadin. Too risky in my mind and I certainly don't want to do the prep again!! So wish me luck although the worst part is over! ;)
 
I also opted to stay on Coumadin when I had my colonoscopy in June. If you are in a low risk category, that's probably the safest route. Save the more drastic lovenox/heparin option for when you know you really need it.

The main thing I want to mention here is that there is now a better prep method available. I did not have to drink the nasty stuff -- just took some pills (visicol). And the effects of the pills weren't as "dramatic" as others have described with the liquid method. Go to www.visicol.com for more information.
 
virtual colonoscopy

virtual colonoscopy

with all the news lately i believe the virtual with soon be more common than the tube colonoscopy. am thinkin that the doctors who do the tube and hmo's are gonna have to respond to demand for virtual sometime soon. i will talk more with my doc about it cause i want it and not the tube...for all the reasons...rz
 
Virtual Colonoscopy

Virtual Colonoscopy

I read an article on virtual colonoscopy within the last week. I think it was in the Wall Street Journal. However, I can't find it now.

The following was copied from USA Today:

Posted 12/1/2003 10:54 PM Updated 12/2/2003 11:30 AM

Study backs 'virtual' colonoscopy
By Rita Rubin, USA TODAY
So-called virtual colonoscopy is just as effective in screening healthy adults for colon cancer as conventional colonoscopy, a study concludes today.
Researchers hope their results ? more favorable than other studies of the test ? will spur reluctant Americans to get screened for colon cancer, the second-deadliest cancer in the USA, accounting for 60,000 deaths a year. Whether that will happen is unknown because virtual colonoscopy is more invasive, and uncomfortable, than its name suggests.

Colon cancer is thought to arise from benign polyps that take years to become malignant. Finding and removing polyps cuts the risk of being diagnosed with the disease or, at least, dying from it. But only a third of Americans older than 50 have ever been screened with sigmoidoscopy ? a scope inserted into the rectum and lower part of the colon ? or colonoscopy.

Virtual colonoscopy doesn't require sedation because it uses CT scanning, not a tube snaked through the colon, to look for polyps. Patients can drive to work right after the procedure.

But for now, virtual colonoscopy, like the conventional kind, still requires the unpleasant task of bowel cleansing. And it also requires insertion of a short tube into the rectum so the colon can be inflated for better viewing. Most of the new study's 1,233 patients, who underwent virtual and optical colonoscopy in the same day, actually said the latter was less painful, but that could be due to sedation. The findings, to be published Thursday in The New England Journal of Medicine, were presented at the Radiological Society of North America meeting in Chicago.

"We have yet to understand whether this is going to bring in tons of people who are not doing testing," says Douglas Rex, an Indiana University gastroenterologist familiar with the new study. "It's not really a virtual test. American patients tend to value not being uncomfortable very highly."

Unlike conventional colonoscopy, the virtual kind isn't covered by Medicare or insurance. One for-profit chain of imaging centers charges $950. Academic institutions charge less, making it slightly cheaper than a conventional colonoscopy.

Perhaps the biggest drawback is that patients with suspicious polyps must still have conventional colonoscopy to have them removed. Most people "will want to have just one test and be done with it," says Wake Forest University gastroenterologist Ben Pineau, who collaborated on another, less favorable recent study of virtual colonoscopy.

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I would think that Coumadin would not be stopped for this test.

Tony
:)
 
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