Covid Vaccines

[Chuck C]

Significant numbers of vaxxed staff now have to miss work due to quarantine and have informed the company owner that they will not work the same shifts w/ those people (if they come back) w/o proof of vaccination.

Good for them! Hopefully we will see more of that type of pressure.

 

[pellicle]

Such strange times that we live in. People watch a few videos that their social media algorithms present to them and they think that they know more than experts who have dedicated their entire lifetimes to studying epidemiology and virology. Dunning Kruger on steroids.

I had a friend call me today about lactoferrin and how its the new wonder drug to cure covid-19 and "why isn't it in hospitals"; this is actual video of me at that time:

 

[cldlhd]

Well, as long people believe that they are qualified, and as long as they "feel" that they are smart, then why not?

Yeah I guess they're everywhere. Sort of dealing with this at work but it's just really one guy. Well there's another guy who said if he has to go back to wearing a mask he's going to quit but that's just bluster and he's vaccinated. Basically everyone is except for one 21-year-old guy. He doesn't feel he needs it or wants it, he might not and the argument that it's to help others and get civilization back to normal doesn't really seem to penetrate his skull. I'm normally not one to want management to unnecessarily get involved but I was talking to our operations manager who used to work with us and I am still friends with and I mentioned that we should have some sort of policy where if you're unvaccinated you have to wear a mask in the building. He said we already have it but it was a bit of a secret I guess So they put out a memo and now the guy is all pissed off about it.

 

[Chuck C]

" Stevenson, 50, had called the COVID vaccine a government conspiracy. "

" Even after his own father died of COVID in April, he still didn’t get vaccinated. "

“Within 48 hours of being admitted, he wished he would have got the shot because he was already that miserable,” Young shared. “His body was hurting. He couldn’t breathe. He wished he would have gotten it.”

https://www.wkrn.com/news/a-shot-wo...conspiracy-dies-of-covid-19/?ipid=promo-link

 

[Chuck C]

this is actual video of me at that time

I feel that I need to point out that you have some significant hair growth on your ears and face. I understand this to be a common side effect from a popular medication for horses and goats that many people are now taking. On the bright side, the new hair growth on your chest completely hides your scar.

 

[Michael O]

" Stevenson, 50, had called the COVID vaccine a government conspiracy. "

" Even after his own father died of COVID in April, he still didn’t get vaccinated. "

“Within 48 hours of being admitted, he wished he would have got the shot because he was already that miserable,” Young shared. “His body was hurting. He couldn’t breathe. He wished he would have gotten it.”

https://www.wkrn.com/news/a-shot-wo...conspiracy-dies-of-covid-19/?ipid=promo-link

At this point, it's hard to care.

 

[Chuck C]

At this point, it's hard to care.

Bad decisions do have consequences. But, it is easy to see how people can get misled by misinformation. It does not make them bad people and they leave families behind that love them. We have a number of folks on my wife's side of the family who see the world the way this man did. There have consequently been a couple of deaths, apparently from Covid. It is tragic, despite the fact that their own foolishness led to the tragedy.

 

[Chuck C]

Vaccine critic and nationally syndicated talk show host Phil Valentine dies from Covid-19 complications.

" Valentine, whose nationally syndicated Phil Valentine Show aired on 100 stations from 2007 to 2019, had questioned the vaccines on his current show on Nashville’s SuperTalk 99.7 WTN and online, mocking the U.S.’s inoculation campaign in the song “Vaxman,” a parody of the Beatles’ “Taxman.” "

" Make SURE you get your vitamin D3 level checked… And then have a doctor on speed dial who will write you a prescription for ivermectin,” "

"Phil Valentine wrote on Facebook on July 13th, recommending an unproven drug used to treat livestock for worms."

Apparently that did not work out too well for him.

His deathbed regret and plea: " I know now that a lot of people didn’t get the vaccine because I didn’t get the vaccine. And that is what I would like to correct.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...ne-radio-covid-vaccine-dead-obituary-1206303/

 

[Michael O]

Bad decisions do have consequences. But, it is easy to see how people can get misled by misinformation. It does not make them bad people and they leave families behind that love them. We have a number of folks on my wife's side of the family who see the world the way this man did. There have consequently been a couple of deaths, apparently from Covid. It is tragic, despite the fact that their own foolishness led to the tragedy.

You're correct, and we have no way of knowing how much of their misunderstanding was them nurturing their deliberate ignorance.

Nonetheless, I'm out of compassion. A better person wouldn't be, but I'm not that person right now.

 

[cldlhd]

You're correct, and we have no way of knowing how much of their misunderstanding was them nurturing their deliberate ignorance.

Nonetheless, I'm out of compassion. A better person wouldn't be, but I'm not that person right now.

Yeah I just drove up with my wife and son to Bear Creek mountain, it's about an hour outside of Philly, to do some little water slides and spend the night. We got off the Pennsylvania turnpike and we're cutting through this small town called East Greenville and as soon as we turned on main Street there was a protest of about 30 people holding up signs about how the vaccines are made in China and no vaccines and no masks etc..... Nothing better to do on a Sunday afternoon I guess.....

 

[pellicle]

popular medication for horses and goats

its exacerbated by my coadministration of lactoferrin (and some others)

 

[pellicle]

I'm out of compassion. A better person wouldn't be, but I'm not that person right now.

that's a good summary of my position, mind if I use it?

 

[Michael O]

that's a good summary of my position, mind if I use it?

No patent on exhausted, resigned indifference, so go for it.

 

[Chuck C]

You're correct, and we have no way of knowing how much of their misunderstanding was them nurturing their deliberate ignorance.

Nonetheless, I'm out of compassion. A better person wouldn't be, but I'm not that person right now.

I understand 100% and often feel that way as well.

 

[sharky7]

Such strange times that we live in. People watch a few videos that their social media algorithms present to them and they think that they know more than experts who have dedicated their entire lifetimes to studying epidemiology and virology. Dunning Kruger on steroids.

CHUCK.....not true!!

 

[sharky7]

I don't remember calling anyone racist. I understand some people are Republicans some are Democrats some are neither. I'm pretty moderate myself but no one with an IQ bumping anywhere near triple digits thinks Trump was the best president ever. Where's the logic? Is it because he repeatedly told his mush brained followers that he was " the bestest": while jabbering in the 3rd person like a mental patient?

NAW,,,,saying some are mush brained is much better then calling anyone a racist, sure go for it! WOW, so your a "hater", awesome, are you good for anything else? and oh ya, your moderate, that makes it fine to lower the hammer on those that you dont know, nor perhaps will ever know....BUT THEY ARE MUSH BRAINED? they have to be, heck you said it, it has got to be true!!!

 

[cldlhd]

NAW,,,,saying some are mush brained is much better then calling anyone a racist, sure go for it! WOW, so your a "hater", awesome, are you good for anything else? and oh ya, your moderate, that makes it fine to lower the hammer on those that you dont know, nor perhaps will ever know....BUT THEY ARE MUSH BRAINED? they have to be, heck you said it, it has got to be true!!!

Yes they are mush brained.... " Everyone knows it, everyone is talking about it. Believe me, believe me".....
To vote for trump is one thing but if someone actually believes he was the best president in the entire history of the United States they are an idiot, sorry how else to explain it?

 

[Keithl]

Vaccine critic and nationally syndicated talk show host Phil Valentine dies from Covid-19 complications.

" Valentine, whose nationally syndicated Phil Valentine Show aired on 100 stations from 2007 to 2019, had questioned the vaccines on his current show on Nashville’s SuperTalk 99.7 WTN and online, mocking the U.S.’s inoculation campaign in the song “Vaxman,” a parody of the Beatles’ “Taxman.” "

" Make SURE you get your vitamin D3 level checked… And then have a doctor on speed dial who will write you a prescription for ivermectin,” "

"Phil Valentine wrote on Facebook on July 13th, recommending an unproven drug used to treat livestock for worms."

Apparently that did not work out too well for him.

His deathbed regret and plea: " I know now that a lot of people didn’t get the vaccine because I didn’t get the vaccine. And that is what I would like to correct.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...ne-radio-covid-vaccine-dead-obituary-1206303/

Heck, they booed Trump when he suggested to his rally this past weekend they get vaccinated, the genie is out of the bottle and the misinformation has taken those folks over.

 

[cldlhd]

Heck, they booed Trump when he suggested to his rally this past weekend they get vaccinated, the genie is out of the bottle and the misinformation has taken those folks over.

Ya I found that amusing, Trump getting booed not that guy dying, it's like a microcosm of what happened to the Republican party- for years they fed that crazy uncle in the attic thinking they could keep him locked up there but he got out and took over the house .. .the poorly educated ( otherwise known as "the base" ) have been fed disinformation for decades from not believing in evolution to climate change and now vaccines and masks. It's sad but to win the nomination now I think you'd have to be anti science and knowledge to the point of satire.
Trump is done recommending vaccines , it's a show and he'll give them what they want. Probably start changing to lock up fauci or some other gibberish. It's amazing to me that those p*gf***ers at his rallies don't recognize how much he despises them.

 

[Keithl]

Trump is done recommending vaccines , it's a show and he'll give them what they want. Probably start changing to lock up fauci or some other gibberish. It's amazing to me that those p*gf***ers at his rallies don't recognize how much he despises them.

Because they are too superficial. I have an interesting conversation with 2 (clearly GOP) coworkers on Friday and they clearly were in the Trump is an a**, but they liked what he did over say Biden or Obama

That said the extreme GOP are all the social media nut bags that would rather believe some BS unknown or invalidated source on the Internet (because hey it was on the Internet so it must be true) rather than an establish news source becasue well, they have been poisoned by those social media people that the news media is lying. There are days I am glad I am 60 as I can't even imagine what this place looks like in 50 years (heck even 10-20).