Can someone answer this??????

Valve Replacement Forums

Help Support Valve Replacement Forums:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Creed3

VR.org Supporter
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 12, 2002
Messages
856
Location
Virginia
My husband and I were having a discussion about eggs today. I have always eaten my eggs sunnyside up. I had them that way today. He tells me that I shouldn't eat them that way because I can get salmanella (I hope that is spelled right) which is a bacteria. If it is a bacteria does that mean it could cause trouble with my mechanical valve and possibly get endocarditis? I just never associated sunnyside up eggs with bacterial infection. I always thought the white of the egg is what needed to be cooked thoroughly. A couple hours after eating the eggs I had pain in my stomach and some (not to be too gross) diarrhea. I didn't associate it with the eggs. I thought it probably came from having some gastro thing that has been going around the kids at school etc.
How many of you out there eat your eggs sunnyside up?
Let me know what you all think.

Take Care!
Gail
 
Being a restauarant manager for over 20 years, I can answer this.
Any time there is uncooked eggs, chicken, salmonella is possible.
The eggs must be cooked , then kept at 165 degrees fht.
Many times when people think 'oh its a stomache bug' its salmonella.
I dont know if it can affect the valve or not, but it does affect lowered immune systems.
I hope this helps, love yaps
 
Always eat mine sunny side up. If I can't have the food I want, then whats the point of going on?
 
I have eaten raw egg yolks in dishes at sushi bars and my mom always gave us raw eggs in chocolate milk growing up because we didn't like cooked eggs. Have not had any problems with reactions to it (other than almost throwing up the milk because the raw egg in it was disgusting :eek: . Unless, of course, that is what caused my mitral valve to tank. ;) :D I really don't see it as a problem in general. That being said, I know uncooked eggs can cause problems so I wouldn't want to advocate eating them. I am just saying what I do.
 
As long as the egg yolk is cooked solid you are okay.
 
Unfortunately, the Univerity of Kansas verifies that the salmonella is indeed inside the egg, and is transferred from the egg-laying parts of an infected chicken. Any uncooked part of the egg may carry the germ.

However, it is highly unlikely that the problem you encountered a couple of hours after eating the sunny-side-up egg had anything whatsoever to do with salmonella. The CDC's description put your experience outside the bacterium's etiology (boldings mine):
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/salmonellosis_g.htm#How common is salmonellosis Salmonellosis is an infection with a bacteria called Salmonella. Most persons infected with Salmonella develop diarrhea, fever, and abdominal cramps 12 to 72 hours after infection. The illness usually lasts 4 to 7 days, and most persons recover without treatment. However, in some persons the diarrhea may be so severe that the patient needs to be hospitalized.
Those 24-hour bugs may be from germy counters, but they're not from salmonella, and not from your sunny-side-up eggs.

So what is your risk level, really?
http://www.mercola.com/2002/nov/13/eggs.htm#When you carefully analyze the risk of contracting salmonella from raw eggs, you will find that it is actually quite low. A study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture earlier this year (Risk Analysis April 2002 22(2):203-18) showed that of the 69 billion eggs produced annually, only 2.3 million of them are contaminated with salmonella.

So simple math suggests that only 0.003 percent of eggs are infected. The translation is that only one in every 30,000 eggs is contaminated with salmonella. This gives you an idea of how uncommon this problem actually is.
The Univerity of Kansas agrees with the 2.3M estimate of affected eggs.

If you get organically farmed eggs, the risk of salmonella goes down, as free-range chickens and chickens grown in uncrowded circumstances don't pass the germ as readily, and aren't crowded into areas that breed and maintain the bacterium.

A side note, for those who do cook their eggs fully: you are safe. Cooking does kill salmonella. Since the vast majority of those 2.3M eggs will be eaten fully cooked, the number of people actually exposed to live salmonella is far smaller than even the 0.003% would suggest.

How to avoiid it? Ruin your food! (More from the CDC...)
There is no vaccine to prevent salmonellosis. Since foods of animal origin may be contaminated with Salmonella, people should not eat raw or undercooked eggs, poultry, or meat. Raw eggs may be unrecognized in some foods such as homemade hollandaise sauce, caesar and other homemade salad dressings, tiramisu, homemade ice cream, homemade mayonnaise, cookie dough, and frostings. Poultry and meat, including hamburgers, should be well-cooked, not pink in the middle. Persons also should not consume raw or unpasteurized milk or other dairy products. Produce should be thoroughly washed before consuming.

Cross-contamination of foods should be avoided. Uncooked meats should be keep separate from produce, cooked foods, and ready-to-eat foods. Hands, cutting boards, counters, knives, and other utensils should be washed thoroughly after handling uncooked foods. Hand should be washed before handling any food, and between handling different food items...

...People should wash their hands after contact with animal feces. Since reptiles are particularly likely to have Salmonella, everyone should immediately wash their hands after handling reptiles. Reptiles (including turtles) are not appropriate pets for small children and should not be in the same house as an infant.
Hmmm. People should wash their hands after contact with animal feces. Who'd have guessed?

No pink in your hamurger, steak, or lamb. No pink. Cooked to death. That's the governement for you. I like a little pink in my steaks. I like my eggs over easy. Pat loves hollandaise sauce and homemade mayonnaise.

And the reason those poor, maligned turtles developed salmonella was that they were kept in a tiny, stagnant pool with a plastic palm tree. Since turtles defecate in the warm, unchanged water, the bacterium had all it needed to grow. Not unlike a certain stadium in New Orleans...

I say the heck with the Feds. There is a far greater chance of running into a deer with your car than developing salmonella from an undercooked egg or a medium rare steak. Eggnogs all around!

Bon appétit,
 
The only time I eat an egg..is on weekends..when Grandson is here..He loves bacon and eggs..I scrambled them GOOD....done...Now, sometimes my Hubby likes to boil 2 eggs for breakfast..Crack open and eat on toast...BUT..he usually does this in late morning on weekends..Like 10 a.m......Not to gross anyone out..but, I can smell the eggs after he goes to bathroom.. :eek: and he always has an upset stomach..later that day..I keep telling him..don't eat uncooked eggs late in day... this has been going on for many years..Yet, everytime he does it..I remind him..you ate uncooked eggs late this a.m...and he says..No, that's not it.. :mad: the next time he wants that..I am going to tell him..Crack the bathroom window. :p Bonnie
 
Here's a tip. When you are cooking your eggs sunnyside up, simply put a cover over them while they cook, and the top of the egg will cook as well. Keeps the splatters under control too. Cook until the entire egg is solid.

By the way this also works for hamburgers which should be cooked well.
 
But I thought the whole idea of Sunny Side up was to have the Yoke runny to dip your toast in? I'm not an Egg eater but I sure watched my dad eat alot of them.
 
We used to spoon the fat from the pan over the yolks to cook just the skin of them, but the point was still to have the sweet, running yolk when you were done.

Nowadays, I would never have enough fat in the pan to spoon over anything, even though I use hyper-healthy Macadamia nut oil.

I had liquid, over-easy yolks in fried eggs this morning. Yummy!

Best wishes,
 
Sorry but I've eaten grease, asbestos, various kinds of dirt that can be found working on cars and it never killed me. I like my meats a little red and juicy, my eggs nice yellow and runny and everything else that we are told we shouldn't do!
 
geebee said:
...and my mom always gave us raw eggs in chocolate milk growing up because we didn't like cooked eggs.

SickPumpkin.jpg


...and I thought I had to eat some nasty stuff growing up! I hope that recipe doesn't fall into the hands of hospital kitchen staff!
 
geebee said:
my mom always gave us raw eggs in chocolate milk growing up because we didn't like cooked eggs.
Wow, you must be my sister! When finished washing up after you threw up, did she have more of the same waiting for you? :eek: Your post brought back childhood memories; I swore I'd never do stuff like that to my kids, and haven't yet (I've come up with new ways to torture them!)
 
I'm with you Rossman! I also like my steak medium rare! Runny eggs and toast to dip them in. Yummmmmiiiiieeee! I also like my egg sandwhiches with the egg overeasy to medium so that the egg yolk oozees out when I bite into it. But again, to each there own. :)

My sister and I were just talking last night about Easter eggs. When we were little, my Mom would cook and dye the eggs and they sat out on the table in a bowl until we ate them all. We certainly didn't die or get sick from salmanella.
 
Thanks!

Thanks!

Wow! Thanks for all of the responses. It's good to know I was not alone in liking my eggs over easy. I just love to dip my toast and then when I make the sandwich I like to have it ooz a little also. I guess there are chances of getting sick with lots of different foods.
I guess my hubby was just trying to watch over me.
Now here is something I think is gross that he has done. He used to buy the pasteurized egg whites in a carton. He would drink them right out of the carton or mix it into a shake. Now that is nasty to me but to each his own.

Take Care Everyone!
Gail
 
jeffp said:
Wow, you must be my sister! When finished washing up after you threw up, did she have more of the same waiting for you? :eek: Your post brought back childhood memories; I swore I'd never do stuff like that to my kids, and haven't yet (I've come up with new ways to torture them!)
Of course she did, because we didn't get the first one down. The reason she started it was because I threw up eating the slimy part of fried eggs (sorry guys - although I did like dipping my toast in the liquid yolk, just couldn't eat the rest of the egg). I know she thought she was helping but...... I still can't eat fried eggs (or lumpy mashed potatoes). However, I do eat raw fish - go figure. :rolleyes: :D ;)

BTW, Bill, the pumpkin is very familar. :D :D :D
 
Surprised so many don't seem to care for eggs.

We used to make our own eggnogs: milk, egg, sugar, vanilla extract, a touch of nutmeg. We loved 'em.

There's little but lecithin and protein of value in egg whites, although it is where the embryo's waste products go. The yolk is its food. Whatever floats people's boats... :D

Best wishes,
 
When I think of all the things we ate when we were growing up:

Cake & cookie batter (raw eggs in those)
Meringue before putting on pie (raw egg whites)
Meatloaf before cooking (now called steak tartare :D ), yep - raw eggs and raw beef :eek:
Egg nog

And now:

Hollandaise sauce - almost raw egg yolks
Ceasar salad - freshly made with raw egg yolks
Fresh mayonaisse - more raw eggs
Egg nog
Real prime steak tartare (mad cow disease to go with your salmonella)

I am sure there are many more examples. Oh well, I guess we all have to die from something. I would rather die early from "living the good life" than live the rest of my life eating things I hate.

Bon Appetit!!!
 
mmmm runny eggs!

mmmm runny eggs!

After reading those posts, I am sitting here drooling and would happlily sell my granny for a runny egg!...were it not for 2 problems....1. unfortunately I no longer have a granny to sell and 2. A couple of hours after eating it, I would be very very sick!

I had the flu vaccine for the 1st time about 20 years ago and took a bad reaction to it. The Dr said it was an allergic reaction and that as the vaccine is derived from chickens, I should ensure that all chicken and eggs are well cooked before eating them. I can eat an egg that it well cooked but they don't taste near as good as a runny one...every few years I think maybe it'll be ok this time and I succumb to temptation...only to suffer the nausea etc a few hours later.....when will I ever learn!
 
Hey Guys...I thought it was OK to eat your steak rare. I mean I eat mine really rare...cool RED center. I know hamburgers have to be cooked well done but I thought that was because it was ground meat and was more likely to become contaminated with some bacteria. I sure would hate to think about giving up on my rare steaks. I love eggs sunny side up but I now cook them medium (still a little undone in the yolk). Linda
 
Back
Top