Ebay drops all listing for Roche Coaguchek XS PT Strips

Vu lam · Oct 2, 2024

I have been a seller of the Coaguchek strips and Meters on eBay for more than 10 years. Up until the beginning of this year we were able to peacefully sell these items to people all over the US and the world. In fact we were the top seller of this particular item. ( eBay seller ID: selfcare98) Ebay claim that the listing of these item violated their medical listing policy. This is strange considering the allow for the listing/sale of much more intrusive medical devices and other similar items like diabetic strips.

All that aside, we have been slowly reaching out to all of our past customers to let them know that they can buy direclty from us at www.selfcaredepot.com We want to continue selling these crucial strips to the community and provide them with the best prices and services without having to bleed their wallets dry.

If anyone is interested, please do not hesitate to reach out to me at [email protected]
website: www.selfcaredepot.com

LondonAndy · Oct 2, 2024

For the benefit of those in the UK and Ireland, and I am sure most European countries will have one too, you can buy the meter from an official Roche distributor, Williams Medical Supplies. The price is currently £299.00 (US$360) though to get it at that price you have to order by phone, as otherwise they will add VAT (sales tax).

Vu lam · Oct 2, 2024

Those that are in need of new strips, you will be glad to know that we just got in a fresh batch today. We are shipping from 2 location; New York and California. Most USPS shipments will take 3-5 days depending on where you are. As an added bonus, all purchases are TAX FREE!

Lisa from LJ · Oct 2, 2024

Vu lam said:
All that aside, we have been slowly reaching out to all of our past customers to let them know that they can buy direclty from us at www.selfcardepot.com We want to continue selling these crucial strips to the community and provide them with the best prices and services without having to bleed their wallets dry.

If anyone is interested, please do not hesitate to reach out to me at [email protected]
website: www.selfcaredepot.com

You might want to correct the first link and perhaps the email address. I believe both are missing an e that the second link has.

pellicle · Oct 2, 2024

Hi

Welcome aboard

Firstly, I'm living in Australia (was living in Finland) and in both of those places this isn't an issue ... however thanks very much for starting this thread

Vu lam said:
I have been a seller of the Coaguchek strips and Meters on eBay for more than 10 years. Up until the beginning of this year we were able to peacefully sell these items to people all over the US and the world. In fact we were the top seller of this particular item. ( eBay seller ID: selfcare98) Ebay claim that the listing of these item violated their medical listing policy.

very interesting ...

I see that you are one of the two companies mentioned in this thread

https://www.valvereplacement.org/threads/where-are-you-getting-your-supplies.889453/#post-930932

... This is strange considering the allow for the listing/sale of much more intrusive medical devices and other similiar items like diabetic strips.

an argument position I've taken from the first time I heard that it was restricted in the land of Freedom (@Timmay )

...can buy direclty from us at www.selfcardepot.com

I hope this is not flagged as "promotion" but I doubt it will ...

Best Wishes

pellicle · Oct 2, 2024

Lisa from LJ said:
You might want to correct the first link and perhaps the email address. I believe both are missing an e that the second link has.

well spotted ... personally I'm a bit sus about the proton mail address ... I would ask @Vu lam to verify it because anything going to something like proton mail, hotmail, outlook ... seems like it could be private mail not corporate.

Thanks

Vu lam · Oct 3, 2024

Lisa from LJ said:
You might want to correct the first link and perhaps the email address. I believe both are missing an e that the second link has.

Thank you for pointing that out. Error has been corrected.

Vu lam · Oct 3, 2024

pellicle said:
Hi

Welcome aboard

Firstly, I'm living in Australia (was living in Finland) and in both of those places this isn't an issue ... however thanks very much for starting this thread

very interesting ...

I see that you are one of the two companies mentioned in this thread

https://www.valvereplacement.org/threads/where-are-you-getting-your-supplies.889453/#post-930932

an argument position I've taken from the first time I heard that it was restricted in the land of Freedom (@Timmay )

I hope this is not flagged as "promotion" but I doubt it will ...

Best Wishes

Yes, it is shocking that in the land of freedom, it is the corporation that dictate to the people where and whom they can buy from. The restriction on eBay is not applied equally as well. I believe they still allow UK eBay sellers to sell this item.

RAS · Oct 6, 2024

Vu lam said:
Yes, it is shocking that in the land of freedom, it is the corporation that dictate to the people where and whom they can buy from. The restriction on eBay is not applied equally as well. I believe they still allow UK eBay sellers to sell this item.

In the US this is because the Roche CoaguChek system which is a Class II medical device requires a prescription and eBay policies do no allow sale of medical devices that require a prescription. This has been the situation for many years, however eBay had been lax in enforcement. That changed after they paid $59 million to settle violations of the Controlled Substances Act in January. That was related to sale of Pill presses, but no surprise they would start enforcing government regulations and their own corresponding policies after paying such a fine.

FDA Summary Decision for the CoaguChek Vantus System: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/reviews/K170960.pdf
Previous versions approved for sale in the US have the same restrictions. Unfortunately, I've seen no indication that Roche is requesting a change in classification.

eBay Medical Device Policy: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/medical-devices-policy?id=4322:

If they are allowing sale in the UK, it is probably because of different/less restrictions than in the US, but that is just my guess. Someone on this forum may have relevant facts to share on the situation there.

LondonAndy · Oct 6, 2024

RAS said:
In the US this is because the Roche CoaguChek system which is a Class II medical device requires a prescription and eBay policies do no allow sale of medical devices that require a prescription. This has been the situation for many years, however eBay had been lax in enforcement. That changed after they paid $59 million to settle violations of the Controlled Substances Act in January. That was related to sale of Pill presses, but no surprise they would start enforcing government regulations and their own corresponding policies after paying such a fine.

FDA Summary Decision for the CoaguChek Vantus System: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/reviews/K170960.pdf
Previous versions approved for sale in the US have the same restrictions. Unfortunately, I've seen no indication that Roche is requesting a change in classification.

eBay Medical Device Policy: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/medical-devices-policy?id=4322:

If they are allowing sale in the UK, it is probably because of different/less restrictions than in the US, but that is just my guess. Someone on this forum may have relevant facts to share on the situation there.

That all makes sense, and the reason they would be allowed to sell in the UK is because the machine is not a prescription item - anyone can buy one. I've just checked, and there are several for sale, both the XS and the INRange machines. However, why buy on eBay for £443 or £551 when you can buy from the official outlet for £299?

Protimenow · Oct 6, 2024

I wonder if enough of us can write to a senator or our congress representatives about the strange situation related to anticoagulation meters -- blood glucose meters are available without a prescription. Insulin is by prescription only.

Why should anticoagulation meters and strips be any different?

But, of course, complaints will probably go NOWHERE.

Vu lam · Oct 6, 2024

pellicle said:
well spotted ... personally I'm a bit sus about the proton mail address ... I would ask @Vu lam to verify it because anything going to something like proton mail, hotmail, outlook ... seems like it could be private mail not corporate.

Thanks

I would gladly verify anything that is required of me. If anyone here has bought coaguchek from eBay in the last 10 years, chances are good that they bought from me. seller ID is 'selfcaredepot98' for those that are curious. You can read the reviews and verify for yourself.

pellicle · Oct 6, 2024

Vu lam said:
If anyone here has bought coaguchek from eBay in the last 10 years, chances are good that they bought from me.

well, its good to have a seller on the forum, if not least because our American members often think that they can't buy stuff and must be subordinated to a health care "insurance" scheme. Myself I'm Australian, but even when I lived in Finland I was using an EU provider to buy my strips. Basically costs me a "cafe coffee" per test (which is mostly weekly for me). I prefer to be independent.

Best Wishes

ATHENS1964 · Oct 7, 2024

In Greece, a prescription is not needed, the patient can buy directly from a pharmacy or get a prescription from the doctor. If he has a prescription from the doctor, the cost is 17 euros, if he does not have one, the cost is 75 euros.
As a store, I buy a box with 24 strips for 48 euros

Vu lam · Oct 7, 2024

In Canada, I believe it is also subsidize by the tax payers. But if it isn't be prepared to pay 300 CAD for box of 48. Insane prices.

Protimenow · Oct 7, 2024

There's no alternative, either. I can't imagine that the strips cost too much to manufacture.
They probably want to keep self-testing under the control of 'clinics.' It's a good CYA (if something goes wrong, it's the fault of the provider, not Roche).

Ultimately, personally, I'd like to see anyone on Warfarin who can self test (and those who can self manage) to do so -- and I'd like to see affordable meters and strips. (I'm thinking back a decade or so, when meters were in limited supply, self testing was a fantasy for most vendors, meters and strips were hard to get and expensive -- and I needed strip and meter and couldn't afford either - my dream was to have these available and affordable).

I was attacked for this many times. I'm hoping that the current group here - after self testing and self management are much less weird - to support this dream.

Vu lam · Oct 7, 2024

There isn't a cheap cheap alternative unfortunately. And Yes, strips are pennies to make. I was in the diabetics business for many years so I have first hand knowledge about he manufacturing cost of these things.

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