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I hope you can bear with me as I have some questions that I feel I need to know before I meet my cardiologist later this week. Basically a job description for the Cardiologist, and the heart surgeon, who dos what and where do they turn over the other responsibility. so who do I ask what questions? Are there things that one knows that isn't the other's job? Like discussion of what type of valve, which hospital, what tests, what medications for fluid before the operation, what symptoms to look for as time gets closer? Who directs care after? Just curious minds wanta know! Thanks!
 
In my case I think it was a team. The surgeon obviosly performed the surgery, and did the immediate follow up that day and the next. The surgeon did not see me after I was moved from ICU, but my cardiologist did, and the interns and such all esentially said that they worked for the cardiologist. When I came home I received a call the next day from my surgeon, asking how I felt, was there pain, etc. I think that the surgeon tracked everything, but left immediate care issues to the cardiologist and his folks. Before the surgery I know the two chatted about test results, etc.
 
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?s regarding which valve and anything that takes place in OR ask the surgeon. That is to say the techinical stuff. Everything left is the cardios responsibiltiy. think of it this way...the cardio is the diagnostician and the serg. is the mechanic.
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The people involved were actually pretty separate, in my case. The cardiologist was the one who ordered the echoes and determined it was time to look for a cardiothoracic surgeon. That was it for the original cardiologist for a while.

I went to the surgeon, we explored his credentials and philosophy, talked valves a while, chose one, and afterwards set up a date with his people. Then there was a third cardiologist - the interventional cardiologist - contacted by the cardiologist at the surgeon's request.

The interventional cardiologist is the one who does the cardiac catheterization, if you haven't already had one. They do it to see if bypass grafts should be done at the same time as the valve surgery. My cath was done the day before my surgery at that hospital. Then he was gone.

My surgeon saw me briefly before the surgery and afterwards daily, for a brief time. The cardiologist may have had someone visit daily, perhaps a Physician's Assistant, but I am not certain, as I didn't know any of them. The surgeon also had a PA check up on me several times a day. The cardiologist did have one of his partners there to determine whether I should go from Intensive Care to the regular cardiac ward after the first night. The surgeon is the one who released me from the hospital, though.

After I went home, the care of the wound was entirely for the surgeon's group,as well as initial prescriptions. As far as instructions, the hospital had handed out a set, and the surgeon's PA asked if I had read them. I said, "sort of," so she checked "yes." I really didn't go into them all that deeply, as many of them plainly didn't apply to me, dealing with fluid problems and special diets, which I didn't have. The last time I saw the surgeon was ten days after surgery, when his staff took the staples out (ouch!).

At about four weeks, I called the cardiologist to see if they wanted me to come in for anything. They set up a six-weeks-out appointment, and did an echo, a 24-hour Holter monitor, and an ambulatory blood pressure test. My BP was always high at their office, but I fervently denied having high blood pressure. The monitor was to break the stalemate. End result was that I proved that cardiologists cause high blood pressure, and that my BP was fine when I was at home.

At six months, my cardiologist was going to stress test me, because of an inverted T wave I had developed before the surgery and was still showing afterwards. (A T wave is like a degaussing wave that neutralizes the heart's electrical potential between beats; mine was flowing in the wrong direction through the heart.) I was reluctant, so he did an EKG to convince me that I should. As he read the EKG, he noted that my inverted T wave was reverting to normal. So I escaped another test.

Then he sent me to a cardiac electrophysiologist, who is expert in the electrical impulses that run the heart, and thus also arrhythmias. It was because of one ventricular triplet I had shown on the Holter at six weeks, and which I felt was ignorable, as it had been so soon after the surgery.

The EP spent quite a while with my files, then examined me. He said that my heart muscle was very strong, the beat was very regular, and my valve was making perfect closing noises. He declined to monitor or test me further, as he said that with no current issues and good heart muscle strength, I would be a very minimal risk even if I did have occasional ventricular triplets, which he did not believe I was still having. He also said that one triplet six weeks after surgery is not significant, given my heart's condition otherwise, as it was so soon after the surgery (hah!). Houdini stikes again - I escaped more testing and monitoring.

So now I'm back to just the cardiologist, who I'll see again in six months.

I imagine you'll get many different answers to this, as each place seems to have its own way of doing things. I was well served by the folks I dealt with, and content with their modus operandi. I hope you will be, too.

Best wishes,
 
Since my cardio was in Nashville, TN and my surgeon was in Durham, NC there was not a lot of teamwork involved. Once my cardio recommended surgery I found a surgeon and consulted with him. Once he agreed to do the surgery he told me what tests I needed to have performed before surgery. Then I had those tests performed by my cardio (echo...which was already done and the cath). My cardio gave me the cath CD and paper report to take to my surgeon. I had one followup exam and echo done by my surgeon 2 weeks after surgery. My 6 week followup was done by my cardio. My surgeon has been involved with my sternum complications and performed the wire removal. I sensed some relief on his part yesterday as my incision has healed nicely and my pain level is down (the relief coming from me not coming back...hopefully for a long, long time :D).

I imagine that if I had seen a cardio at Duke there would have been much more in the way of communication between cardio and surgeon, but IMO they still have clearly separate functions.
 
Tom F.

Tom F.

Were they close enough to know each other? they do sound like they worked as a team. thanks for the answers with each response this whole process makes a little more sense, I have a long way to go before I get it totally but I am on the way, thanks!
 
Medtronic of Borg

Medtronic of Borg

"the cardio is the diagnostician and the serg. is the mechanic. "

good way for me to think about it, I am learning little by little, thanks!
 
tobagotwo

tobagotwo

As usual lots of good info, I always bring your responses up a couple of times to read and study them, thanks! yes each situation has its differences yet we're all seem to be in a very similar boat! I am trying to get my head together so I don't waste the precious time I will have with the cardio guy. form my questions so that I am asking the right person the right stuff and tomorrow I will have some questions that I may need some advice as to specifics. today was not a good day, the last two days I have been really worn out, spent some time sleeping during the day which is extememly rare for me, so I have to pace myself even here.
 
Bryan B

Bryan B

I can almost guarantee that my surgeon will not be in the same town, limited hospital services in this category, so I will be dealing with the same situation. I am hoping that the cardiologist will be able to work with the surgeon. Do you think procedure first and then surgeon to do it, or surgeon and then procedure?
 
I made my decision on procedure first, then found a surgeon who specialized in that procedure. Of course he ultimately had to make the call as to whether or not he felt the procedure / valve type I had selected was right for me. Fortunately he felt I was a good candidate for the Ross, although I had already decided on a tissue valve as my 2nd choice and he was more than capable to do that as well if it turned out he couldn't do the Ross on me.
 
Ok, you gotta understand that, by my last count, I had four seperate cardiologists following my progress while at Cleveland Clinic alone...

Plus my surgeon.


None of the cards were my "primary" cardiologist either.
:rolleyes:


I've had a cardiologist for decades. Dr. Robert Gingell is a doc who's been with me really since I was born (he was an intern when I had my first OHS.) I started seeing him more or less regularly while in high school, 1989-1992, and still see him now.

He refered me to Cleveland Clinic when my heart really started going south. I was evaluated by their transplant service and assigned cardiologists then a surgeon.

I had Dr. Prieto and Dr. Rosenthal as cardiologists. Dr. Mee, Dr. Duncan, and Dr. Young were all surgeons that followed me around. Dr. Mee was the head guy who really lead the team of specialists who were all assigned to me.

There were a number of other folks too, I can't remember all of them and a few I think ahave since left Cleveland Clinic for one reason or another (residency completed, recruited by another hospital...)
 
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