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I was reading that long term use of warfarin makes your bones weaker. Does anyone know if their doctor says they should up their calicum intake? Will this help? Also I get allergeries alot what is a safe med to take for this while on warfarin?

Thanks
Christine
AVR Sept.5,2006
UCLA, Dr. Laks
 
As far as allergy meds, anything prescribed is fine and at the moment, I can't think of anything over the counter that isn't safe either. Pretty much anything that works is fine.
 
Thank You

Thank You

According to the link you gave it stated that multi-vitamins have vitamin K in them. My vitamins do not have Vitamin K listed on the back. Does this mean that they do not have vitamin K in them or how would I find out? Same with my calicum supplements would it be listed?:confused:
 
If the vitamin contains any significant amount of either, it should be listed on it. If it's only a trace amount and insignificant, it's left off the label.

Don't overly worry yourself about Coumadin. Really, it isn't that bad, but many make it sound like it's train wreck waiting to happen. I've been on it for 5 years total now and can say that I've heard an awful lot of total rubbish concerning it's use and much of it has been from the medical community.
 
Ross said:
If the vitamin contains any significant amount of either, it should be listed on it. If it's only a trace amount and insignificant, it's left off the label.

Don't overly worry yourself about Coumadin. Really, it isn't that bad, but many make it sound like it's train wreck waiting to happen. I've been on it for 56 years total now and can say that I've heard an awful lot of total rubbish concerning it's use and much of it has been from the medical community.


Ross was that 56 a typo or have you really been on coumadin for 56 years? for some reason i thought you were close to my age (46) and didn't realize you had medical problems before the 90s, lyn
 
Lynlw said:
Ross was that 56 a typo or have you really been on Coumadin for 56 years? for some reason i thought you were close to my age (46) and didn't realize you had medical problems before the 90s, lyn
Typo, blame it on astigmatism. :D
 
You might check the Site Resources under the PT INR.com box up at the top of this page to see what they have to say, Lilbit. I don't know if it mentions the vitamins or not, but maybe.
 
I am age 66..Been on coumadin now for 4 years..5 months..and and 7 days.:D ..NO PROBLEMS... I get regular yearly checkups from my PCP..he runs all the tests on me.. So far..all have come back normal...:) I take no meds other than coumadin...No vitamins..but, we do eat well..making sure, I eat Meat, Veggies, Fruits, ect...everyday and my Hubby will be age 76 in Nov.Same thing for him....so far..good for us both..:) ..Maybe just good genes?..Our parents lived into their late 80's..90's..:) Bonnie
 
Reading?

Reading?

lilbit said:
I was reading that long term use of warfarin makes your bones weaker. Does anyone know if their doctor says they should up their calicum intake? Will this help?
What- please cite your source? Since most peoples diets are short calicum, unless you have severe kidney disease, calicum of up to 500 mg. per meal
is a good thing.
 
RCB said:
What- please cite your source? Since most peoples diets are short calicum, unless you have severe kidney disease, calicum of up to 500 mg. per meal
is a good thing.


I don't know where the research is, but i know from time to time on my CHD groups parents of kids on coumadin talk about having bone scans done because of concerns of coumadin and calcium, lyn
 
Kids

Kids

Lynlw said:
I don't know where the research is, but i know from time to time on my CHD groups parents of kids on coumadin talk about having bone scans done because of concerns of coumadin and calcium, lyn
How long were these "kids" on warfarin and didn't any of them have a source stating warfarin causes bone loss.?
How many tests show abnormal results
 
RCB said:
How long were these "kids" on warfarin and didn't any of them have a source stating warfarin causes bone loss.?
How many tests show abnormal results

Honestly i didn't pay much attention, because it didn't effect my family, i just know that it comes up from time to time,
I just did a quick search of coumadin and bones, and quite a few articles came up here is one http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/6422.html
 
Weakened Bones, and Vitamins

Weakened Bones, and Vitamins

I have heard that some say there is a correlation between warfarin and osteoprosis, but have not followed it up at all. I've been on warfarin since 10/84 and haven't broken any bones. As for the vitamins, I have a hard time finding them without Vit.K. If it's not listed it's not in there. I currently take a Whole Foods 365 brand. I think the hazards of warfariin in ones diet, come from new things that may interact. Herbal remedies, or drinks with things you don't usually include in your diet are the things that can be a problem. I think I'm too tired to make much sense, but hope you get my meaning. Don't worry, but do pay attention. Warfarin is my friend. Brian
 
Lynlw said:
Honestly i didn't pay much attention, because it didn't effect my family, i just know that it comes up from time to time,
I just did a quick search of coumadin and bones, and quite a few articles came up here is one http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/6422.html
After reading that article, I sit questioning it's legitimacy. Elder patients are prone to osteoporosis anyhow, Coumadin or not. Kind of looks to me that they are using it as a scapegoat.

Not bashing your citation Lyn, just often wonder who provides funds for studies like this.
 
Someone had posted a link in another thread to an article about the connection between osteoporosis and warfarin but I don't remember who. Basically it said there was no statistical difference between women on wafarin verse women not on warfarin. It did however indicate that men stood an increased chance of developing osteoporosis with prolonged use of warfarin. But in the case of men it was a slight statistical difference.

So basically take the preventive measures you normally would.

Of course this is subject to the availability of other sponsored studies seeking the specific results those organizations had requested.:rolleyes:
 
That is the problem

That is the problem

Lynlw said:
Honestly i didn't pay much attention, because it didn't effect my family, i just know that it comes up from time to time,
I just did a quick search of coumadin and bones, and quite a few articles came up here is one http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/6422.html
People read several articles based on one study on pts. "with an average
of 80" and they get the impression this is cause and effect evidence. Our resident expert Mr. Lodwick posted this article many month ago. It says nothing about younger pts.

Botton line- look at why these pts. are on warfarin and that may give a clue as to what is causing the statistic, besides the drug that all drs. love to hate.

Of course, I admit my own personal bias- I have been on for over 45 years
and just had my bone density test come back with no abnormal results.
 
Ross said:
After reading that article, I sit questioning it's legitimacy. Elder patients are prone to osteoporosis anyhow, Coumadin or not. Kind of looks to me that they are using it as a scapegoat.

Not bashing your citation Lyn, just often wonder who provides funds for studies like this.


I just checked the partner site ptinr and there were 2 different articles this is the link about warafin and bone density in children http://www.ptinr.com/data/templates/article.aspx?a=405&z=0

and here is the one about the increase in bone fractures http://www.ptinr.com/data/templates/article.aspx?a=501&z=0
it's not the full paper but gives a little more detail then the one i posted before that i just picked since it was the first one that came up when I searched
It seems to be pretty new research which is probably why it isn'tas well known yet and i'm sure there will be more studies done and who knows what the verdict will end up being
 
"Reduction in vitamin K intake early in life has not been the focus of extensive research."

Why are they reducing their K intake? Could it be more misinformation and Dieting the dose, not dosing the diet? Then again, kids hate green things or at least most of them do.
 
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