Vitamin Eeek! :eek:

[tobagotwo]

From: http://www.heartcenteronline.com/myheartdr/home/research-detail.cfm?reutersid=4880&pro=2

I'm not allowed to copy this article, but I will give you the gist of it:

Reanalysis of data from over 136,000 patients from 19 clinical trials revealed an unexpected risk from vitamin E. The double-blind trials, spanning eleven years, were done to determine the benefits of vitamin E on diseases, and its interactions with other vitamins.

A "significant risk of early death" was found among people who took 400 IU or more a day of vitamin E. However, the risk value begins to rise at the 200 IU a day mark. A normal diet provides about six to ten IU a day.

I just cut my own vitamin E order from 400IU capsules to 200 IU capsules. I'll be looking for 100 IU capsules next time around.

Best wishes,

 

[Yaps]

hmmmm....

hmmmm....

About ten years ago I was taking pure vitamin E caps... mercy....

 

[Marguerite53]

AND more bad news.......

AND more bad news.......

Would someone please let us know what we CAN consume?? This morning, news from the BBC. Got Milk? Gulp!!

Milk link to ovarian cancer risk
Consuming large amounts of milk may increase the risk of developing ovarian cancer, research suggests.
A study of more than 60,000 women found drinking more than two glasses of milk a day significantly upped the risk of the most serious form of the disease.

Dairy products have previously been linked to cancers, including those of the breast and prostate.

The research, by Sweden's Karolinska Institute, is published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.


The best advice is to emphasize a balanced diet which includes plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables.
Dr Kate Law

The researchers followed 61,084 women aged 38 to 76 for around 13 years.
During this time a total of 266 women were diagnosed with ovarian cancer, of whom 125 had serous ovarian cancer.

The researchers found women who consumed more than four servings of dairy products a day had twice the risk of serous ovarian cancer than women who had fewer than two.

They found that milk had the strongest link with ovarian cancer - those women who drank two or more glasses a day were at double the risk of those who did not consume it at all, or only in small amounts.

The reason why milk may increase the risk of ovarian cancer is unclear, but one theory is that lactose, a type of sugar found in milk, may overstimulate production of hormones which encourage tumour growth.

Diet element unclear

Dr Kate Law, of Cancer Research UK, said it was not yet clear how nutrients, or the amount and distribution of body fat affected the risk of developing cancer.

She said: "Previous research has also suggested that a diet rich in whole milk, yogurt and cheese may put women at higher risk of ovarian cancer.

"But the picture is far from clear, as other evidence suggests that women who drink skimmed or low-fat milk might have a lower risk of ovarian cancer."

Dr Law a major study, involving 500,000 people, was currently underway to try to assess the impact on diet on cancer.

"Until more is known about the specific components of diet that influence cancer risk, the best advice is to emphasize a balanced diet which includes plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables."

Around 6,700 women in the UK are diagnosed with ovarian cancer each year.

Marguerite

 

[Yaps]

ahhhhhhh!!!!!

ahhhhhhh!!!!!

I need to pull out some 's hair..(never my own) lol.. one daybeef is good next day bad.... ahhhhhhhhh I give up..

 

[Christina L]

Scary

Scary

The vitamin E thing really makes me MAD! They were telling us several years ago how wonderful vitamin E is for us.

I have a theory about the dairy products/ovarian/breast cancer - I think the culprit is the pesticides and dioxin in the milk products. It is a fact that these things are concentrated in dairy through the feed that the cows eat.

Low fat or no fat dairy products are much lower in these pesticides.

Eating less dairy or low fat and ONLY organic is the way to go in my opinion.

Something is going to get us in the end (and don't we on this board know it!) so a person shouldn't be fanatical or worried about this latest news, but eating as close to nature is really the smart thing to do (i.e. fruits and vegetables, whole grains and lean meats - oh and good fats such as olive oil).

Christina L.

 

[tobagotwo]

I have a theory about Swedish milk - and it involves Chernobyl. There were confirmations for years that Finnish Reindeer milk was high in radioactive components. Lessee...Finland is here, Sweden is..um...right next to it...?

Also, I recently read where vegetables are not the miracle workers it has so long been believed. A study - no information about it was supplied - supposedly found that increased consumption of vegetables failed to lower riskd of cancer or heart disease, and may negatively influence some cancer rates. Where will it end?

It has long been acknowledged that vegetables are high in free radicals (aging agents). It has also been touted that all plants contain toxins, and that generally, the stronger the taste of the vegetable, the higher the amount of toxins. So, it has been said that we should eat vegetables like browsers - a little of this one, a little of that, not too much of any one at any time. It makes some sense. If only vegetables kept for weeks instead of days...

Best wishes,

 

[Les]

Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway...(sigh)

 

[bvdr]

I guess everything comes back to "all things in moderation".

I once heard a doctor reassure a patient who always was concerned about what her bowel movements looked like. His advice to her was to flush before she looked and to try to stop worrying about it.

Les is so right. We all die anyway. I always wonder about mortality rate statistics. Being human is 100% mortality.

 

[geebee]

As Sean Connery said in "The Untouchables":
[size=+1]"WHAT THE H--L, YOU'VE GOT TO DIE OF SOMETHING"[/SIZE]
Smiles,
Gina

 

[tobagotwo]

Jim Morrison: "No one here gets out alive."

You're so right, Les.

Still, what we won't do for the prospect of a few more hours...

Best wishes,

 

[JimChicago]

Bob -
One question I had about that Vitamin E study was whether they differentiated those on warfarin from the general population in terms of increased risk.

Some studies say vitamin E at over 400 IU per day acts like a blood thinner by interferring with Vitamin K in a similar fashion as coumadin. Presumably if someone were to take megadoses of vitamin E they would get heavy bleeding tendencies as a result but of course the same would hold for those getting too much coumadin.

So my question is - is the increased risk the study alludes to due to the anti-coagulation nature of vitamin E and how does that compare to the increased risk of anti-coagulation in people on warfarin? Is the study therefore saying anti-coagulation carries risks with it (but also we know when well managed anti-coagulation can pose benefits as well and reduce other risks).

So I wonder if the study is focusing on the risks of bleeding from anti-coagulation while ignoring the benefits of avoiding clots. (Also vitamin E has antioxident properties that may reduce the risks of other diseases).

If we looked at warfarin just on the basis of whether or not it increased the risk of bleeding we would not be getting the full risk/benefit equation of warfarin.

 

[Marguerite53]

Truisms

Truisms

My father is now almost 85, abit into dementia with possible altzheimers, now living in a garden apartment in a continuing care community. He remains the most well-read, open-minded, easy-going, quick to laugh out loud at his own foibles, optimistic pessimist (yes!) I know! When he drove, the bumper sticker he put on his truck read: Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent.

Marguerite