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Here is an update on virtual colonoscopies.

You do not need a doctor's order.

You do not need insurance approval.

The catch is that it costs $975 that you pay yourself.

However, if you have a medical flexible spending account you can get the money back.

I looked up this website. Maybe if several people wanted to do it while in Denver for the reunion you could negotiate a few becks off the price.

Take a look at http://www.coloradoheart.com/o2c_wha.html
 
allodwick said:
Here is an update on virtual colonoscopies.

You do not need a doctor's order.

You do not need insurance approval.

The catch is that it costs $975 that you pay yourself.

However, if you have a medical flexible spending account you can get the money back.

I looked up this website. Maybe if several people wanted to do it while in Denver for the reunion you could negotiate a few becks off the price.

Take a look at http://www.coloradoheart.com/o2c_wha.html
Al, This type of imaging worries me a little bit. I would recommend checking with some local internists or radiologists before going forward.I personally would not see these people without a referral from my own doctor. This type of commercial imaging combine can do substandard work and miss something important, but more often they overdiagnose, which leads to further expensive
and invasive testing.More than likely nothing would be hurt except your bank account. But.......Be careful!
 
great idea for reunion excursion

great idea for reunion excursion

this should be in the reunion forum threads...we can get a group together for an excursion to the virtual colonoscopy clinic and compare results...in all seriousness I am planning one in the near future....

Robt Z
 
Reliability of virtual colonoscopy

Reliability of virtual colonoscopy

Reliability of virtual colonoscopy questioned
Procedure not ready for widespread use, researchers say
The Associated Press
Updated: 1:04 p.m. ET April 20, 2004

Virtual colonoscopy ? a cancer-detecting procedure that gives doctors a computer-generated 3-D view of the colon ? is less reliable than previously thought and not ready for widespread use, researchers say.Its accuracy varies considerably, depending on the training and methods of the doctors performing it, according to a study of 600 patients at nine major clinics.

In conventional colonoscopy, a long, flexible viewing tube about a half-inch thick, or the thickness of a finger, is inserted in the rectum and threaded several feet into the colon. A device on the end of the tube is used to remove suspicious growths, which are later tested for cancer.

Virtual colonoscopy is designed to take some of the discomfort out of the examination. A narrower rectal catheter is inserted, and a CT scanner produces images of the colon.

In the latest study, the patients underwent virtual colonoscopy first, then traditional colonoscopy on the same day.

Low detection rates
The virtual method detected 55 percent of patients with at least one suspicious polyp at least 10 millimeters in diameter, compared with a 100 percent success rate for traditional colonoscopy. For smaller tumors, at least 6 millimeters in diameter, the results were worse: 39 percent for virtual colonoscopy versus 99 percent for the traditional method.


Test yourself
? Test your colon cancer knowledge
Eight patients ultimately were diagnosed with cancer; virtual colonoscopy missed the disease in two of them.

As recently as December, a widely reported study found that virtual colonoscopy was at least as accurate as the conventional variety.

But the authors of the new research said many of the previous studies were largely based on data from a single hospital and did not take real-world conditions into account.

The leader of the research team called the latest findings ?a bucket of cold water? thrown on the growing enthusiasm for virtual colonoscopy.

While the technique might be effective ?in the hands of experts, it has yet to be proven that this expertise can be taught and disseminated reliably into daily practice,? said the research team, led by Dr. Peter Cotton, a gastroenterologist at Medical University of South Carolina.

?If this technique is worth doing, it?s worth doing by regular folks,? Cotton said.upporters still optimistic
Nevertheless, Cotton said doctors should not give up on virtual colonoscopy. ?I suspect that in five years? time, with better software and training and maybe some more intelligent computing ... this will become a useful technique,? he said.

The study appears in Wednesday?s Journal of the American Medical Association.

?The differences between what virtual colonoscopy can do and what it will do if applied in ordinary practice circumstances are so great that physicians must be cautious.?

? Dr. David Ransohoff
University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill
Participating radiologists were required to have performed at least 10 previous virtual colonoscopies. Only one of the centers had substantial previous experience with the procedures and it had the best results, detecting 82 percent of patients with at least one of the smaller polyps. The eight other centers combined had a detection rate of 24 percent.

?The differences between what virtual colonoscopy can do and what it will do if applied in ordinary practice circumstances are so great that physicians must be cautious,? Dr. David Ransohoff of the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill said in a JAMA editorial.

The American Cancer Society recommends that people over 50 get a conventional colonoscopy every 10 years, calling it the ?gold standard? of colon cancer screening. The society concluded that there is not enough evidence to recommend the virtual test for those with average colon cancer risk.

While some doctors offer virtual colonoscopies, most insurance companies do not cover the method. And when the technique does find suspicious growths, standard colonoscopies are required to remove them.

Colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer-related deaths in the United States. It accounts for nearly 60,000 deaths each year. The detection and removal of polyps can help prevent cancer from developing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4732375/
 
University of Wisconsin Hospital

University of Wisconsin Hospital

:) I was or will be referred to the University of Wisconsin Hospital where one of the top virtual guys was recently recruited. So I think it will be done in optimal setting. Way I look at it is it is better than not doing one at all. I hope to do it and then see where it's at. But the guy to do it is the top guy in the field. We'll see. :confused:

Robt Z
 
Richard Smith, who retired last month from being editor of the British Medical Journal, said in his farewell editorial that the function of a medical journal should be to stir up controversy and debate. This is partly why I started this thread -- I wanted people to think about what is available and best for them.
 
PCP says lower INR to 2.0 for Colonoscopy

PCP says lower INR to 2.0 for Colonoscopy

I just had a "heart to heart" with my PCP regarding Colonoscopy while on Coumadin. I have had other surgeries while on Coumadin, with my INR lowered to 2.0 on the day of surgery. I do home monitoring so that I can pretty much nail the INR correctly on the day of surgery. In any event, my PCP feels that the very same procedure would be effective for a Colonoscopy; he said he would intervene with the GI Doc at the proper time. I've undergone Periodontal surgeries and excision of Melanomos using this protocol and we've not had any bad side effects. On the day of the procedure, after the surgery, I've "goosed up the dose" for two days to get back on the track. It takes about a week for the INR to drift back up to where it should be.
 
Colonoscopy

Colonoscopy

I had a colonoscopy about a month ago and the doctor found a benign polyp. Prior to this procedure, I asked my PCP about getting a virtual coloscopy and he didn't recommend it based on the fact that if they did find a polyp, they would still have to go in an remove it. If you decide to get a virtual, there is still a one in ten chance they will find a polyp.

I have to go back in about 5 years. By that time, I will probably have an artificial valve and the virtual colonoscopy will probably seem a lot more attractive to me.

Jim
 
And the techinque for doing them and reading them will be five years better.
 
There should be some news about VCs coming soon. Boston University School of Medicine is sponsoring the 5th International Symposium on Virtual Colonoscopy on October 28 and 29. Stay tuned.
 
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