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Karlynn

I was just wondering who was on regular doses of potassium and why it was recommended. Also, how much you take. With all the arrhythmia I've had, I've never had a doctor recommend potassium. Hearing more and more on this forum about people taking potassium makes me wonder why it was never prescribed for me. Does Potassium affect most arrhythmia or only a few specific types. I know it's used for a-fib (at $1400 a pill - Betty :) ) But what are other indications?

I'll do some web search as well, but thought I'd try the lazy way first!

Karlynn
 
My husband takes potassium (K-Dur) twice a day because he is on Lasix and that depletes the body of potassium. He is also on Tracleer, and that can cause a need of additional potassium.

This is not a do it yourself project. Too much potassium can be bad for you, and too little can be bad for you. Your level has to be tested and the potassium adjusted accordingly.

My husband just went through a period when his potassium was way too high. He had to go on a low potassium diet for several days, and his potassium supplement was on hold. It all worked out, and now he is back on the supplement and on a regular low sodium diet.

People with impaired kidney function also have to be very careful of potassium and the level.

My husband's kidneys have been in failure in the past. They are OK now, but not perfect. His kidney function has to be monitored.

Right at the moment, he is on 40 MEQ twice daily, but has also been on 60 MEQ twice daily, and even 80 MEQ twice daily. His bloodwork determines his levels.

If you are on Lasix or any other diuretic which depletes potassium, you should ask your doctor if you need a potassium supplement. There are other diuretics like Aldactone that are potassium sparing, and do not need potassium.

Do not attempt to self-medicate.

Most foods have potassium anyway. Bananas, oranges, tomatoes, nuts--well the list is way too long. People's diets normally supply more than adequate potassium.
 
Thanks Nancy,
No, I won't prescribe myself potassium. I was just wondering what the specific indications were for it. Since it is related to arrhythmia and that was always my main symptom. Just wondered why potassium wasn't ever looked at. I guess my blood work must have been coming back okay in that area.

I drink a lot of water during the day, so I try to eat foods rich in potassium. Interestingly enough avacados are about the highest in potassium and bananas, which most people think are the "go to" source for it, don't have nearly as much as people would think. Avacados, I've read, are your best source. They contain 60% more potassium than bananas. Potatoes and cantalope also contain more than bananas. Then there are the greens, but those of us on Coumadin shouldn't count on those too heavily for potassium.

Nancy, you are so educated, your husband is lucky to have you by his side!

Karlynn
 
Hi Karlynn,

Nancy has just about covered it all. The only reason they would prescribe it if you are out of normal range. They might have checked it without you even being aware of it.

I am only on 20meq every day. The moduretic I take is potassium sparing but in my case not quite enough. When I have to take Lasix I have been prescribed to take an additional dose at the same time.
 
Hi Karlynn-

I can thank my dear Joe for my "College of Hard Knocks" "education". He's had so many conditions over the years that I've had to read and research just so I know what the heck people are talking about. Plus, I'm with him a whole lot more than his doctors, and if I don't understand what things he has, I might miss some important thing that could cost him his life. And now, I have to discuss his conditions with a lot of medical people, and much of his care is maintenance and is done over the phone, with me doing the "grunt work".

He's obviously in the areas of "Advanced Cardiology" and Advanced Everything, beyond the normal cardiology and other stuff. But he's here and holding his own.

Most of you here will never have to deal with all this stuff, I hope.

My college education was in the arts.
 
Hi Karlynn

Hi Karlynn

I'll jump on the soapbox for Magnesium every day of the week -- 400mg daily. Don't know anything about Potassium though -- maybe because I love avacados so much..

Sure enjoyed meeting you in Chicago..:)
 
Janie (or anyone else knowledgable about magnesium),

Can there be problems with 'too much' magnesium?

I recall others on VR.com mentioning that they take
400iu of magnesium daily also.

Are magnesium levels checked in the standard blood test
(whatever one that is) that includes Postassium? What
is the Chemical abbreviation from Magnesium?

'AL'
 
magnesium

magnesium

karlynn, janie, al and all others here...

janie,
i think i first heard about magnesium from you? joey takes it every day_ about 400 mg.

karlynn,
are you sure it is potassium you mean and not magnesium (eith reference to helping iwth arrhythmias)?
when joey was 4 days post op, he went into afib. they gave him a magnesium drip before they gave him anything else.
that's when i knew that janie was on the mark!!!!
i was always under the impression that potassium, as nancy put it, is for replenishing when you lose a lot of it while on diuretcs...is that the case with you?

al,
i think there are folks here who take pretty much about the same as janie (400mg), but i don't htink it would be harmful if exceeded by a little (500 instead). i'm not sure about huge amounts though. wasnt' there someone who was taking 800 here somewhere or am i dreaming???

hope you're all well,
sylvia
 
500 mg magnesium gluconate -- just plain magnesium doesn't seem to work for me. I think I took more some time back..
 
Regarding Magnesium

Regarding Magnesium

I did a Google search on Magnesium overdose, and if you take too much it can cause problems. I searched the term Hypermagnesemia. It can also interfere with other medications you might be taking, tranquilizers, muscle relaxers, antihistamines, narcotics.

It's not be a good idea if you have any renal function that is not normal. And I bet not a good idea if you have CHF.

Like anything else, you should discuss it with your doctor, who knows your meds and your conditions. You guys and gals are not mere mortals.

Here's a link:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic262.htm

And another link:

http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/magnesium_imbalance.html
 
I also take magnesium, around 400. If you do a web search on it, some claim it to be the most important mineral for heart function. One article said it should be a 2:1 with calcium and since the recommendation for calcium is 2000 (my PCP says 1500, combining food and supplements) it was claiming that 1000 would be the recommended dose. I thought that seemed very high. When my INR was chronically low and my card had me stop my vitamins and supplements to try and figure out what the culprit was, I think I missed the magnesium more than anything. I noticed the difference upon adding it back into my suppliments.

Karlynn
 
Back to potassium . . .

Back to potassium . . .

Avocados - also a problem for coumadin-eaters. In my Coumadin cookbook it's recomended that one NEVER eat avocados because they are high in Vit. K but also totally unpredictably high - they vary from fruit to fruit.

My doc won't prescribe potassium without bloodwork showing I'm low in potassium - due to effect on heart rate/rhythm. So I do bananas and potatos.

And I DO eat avocados occasionally :eek: I'm such a rebel. But I watch it and don't pig out on guacamole the way I used to. :(
 
I know what you mean, I love avacados too and now they are just a rare treat every now and then.:(

Karlynn

Oh, should have mentioned that almonds are also very high in potassium. Those have been my main snack since I started low-carb eating 3 years ago.
 
Hi Karlynn,

Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth! I agree with Janie about the magnesium, in fact after an episode of A-fib one of my docs prescribed magnesium ...I am currently taking 400...also calcium, not sure if it is in the right ratio. I also take Potassium (K-dur) as does Nancy's husband,Joe, same dose in fact...because I am on Lasix and it depletes potassium. Probably not a good idea to fool around with supplementing it ...as everyone else has said, check with your doc!

I didn't realize that the vit. K changed from avocado to avocado, and they are so good!!! Good fats too, especially for heart patients.

Take care,
 
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