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I kinda "borrowed" this from CNN which got it from AP which I'm a member of so it's OK...

Right?


Report: Americans need to shake salt habit
Group wants sodium intake cut, 8 glasses of water rule annulled

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A long-awaited nutrition report suggests lowering the maximum amount of salt Americans should allow themselves each day, even though the average person already consumes far more than is recommended.

But don't worry about water, the report says; people easily get plenty, so let thirst be your guide instead of counting glasses. If you prefer coffee or soda, all beverages, even those with caffeine, count toward the daily water allotment, says Wednesday's report from the Institute of Medicine.

The institute is a scientific organization that sets the nation's recommended levels of nutrients. Its salt conclusion could bring a dramatic change to the sodium content consumers see on the labels of their favorite foods.

The government currently recommends no more than 2,400 milligrams of sodium a day, the equivalent of a heaping teaspoon of salt. The new recommendation is 1,500 mg a day. The new report sets a daily upper limit of 2,300 milligrams, but does not recommend exceeding 1,500.

Yet studies show the average person eats more than 4,000 mg a day, three-quarters of it from restaurant meals and common processed foods like spaghetti sauce and frozen dinners.

"We don't have our heads in the sand on this one. We realize where we are is quite a distance from where we should be, ... and there are commercial interests that don't want this to happen," said Dr. Lawrence Appel, a professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins University, who led the institute panel.

While factors such as weight and exercise play a role, too, salt and blood pressure go hand-in-hand: Eat more, blood pressure rises. Eat less, it drops. Lower blood pressure means less risk of suffering heart attacks, strokes and kidney disease.

"People can cook and prepare Western-style diets that are at that level" even though "it will take work right now," Appel said.
Changing food labels

The Food and Drug Administration uses the institute's nutrient levels to calculate food labels' listing of the percentage of the daily allotment of fat, vitamins and other substances occurs in each serving. The FDA wouldn't say how quickly it would update sodium content; changing food labels typically takes several years.

As an example, a popular brand of canned clam chowder that provides 36 percent of daily sodium under today's guidelines would provide 57 percent of the new level. For some chips, sodium content would change from 15 percent under today's guidelines to 23 percent.

The Institute of Medicine report also concluded that:

? The adage "drink at least eight glasses of water a day" is unnecessary. The average healthy person gets plenty of fluid, from beverages as well as the water content of fruits, vegetables and other fluids. So don't bother counting, just drink when thirsty.

? Most Americans need to eat a lot more potassium -- 4,700 mg a day, roughly double current consumption. Potassium is found in bananas, spinach, cantaloupe and numerous other fruits and vegetables; food sources are better than supplements. Potassium lowers blood pressure and reduces the risk of kidney stones and bone loss.

The food industry opposes the salt change, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, working with the Salt Institute, is questioning one of the government studies used to derive it.

"Dietary recommendations for all Americans need to be realistic," said Stephanie Childs of the Grocery Manufacturers of America.

Childs said consumers wouldn't buy foods that suddenly drop sodium levels because they would taste different, but companies are hunting new recipes to provide a gradual decline. Some already have: Canned foods today contain 40 percent less sodium than a few years ago, she said.

Blood-pressure specialists welcomed the Institute of Medicine's new recommendation, saying even if consumers don't get down to 1,500 mg of daily sodium, every little decline helps.

"The data's strong," said Dr. Daniel Jones of the American Heart Association. "These are certainly healthy goals. They will be a challenge for individuals to achieve, but they can be achieved."

The American Public Health Association is pushing for the sodium in processed foods to be halved within 10 years. The new guidelines mean "the food industry really has to take this issue much more seriously now," said Dr. Stephen Havas of the University of Maryland, who is leading that call.

The 1,500-mg salt level is the level for healthy younger adults. Because blood pressure rises with age, the new report says people over 50 should strive for 1,300 mg, and 1,200 mg for those over 70.
 
I read that today as well, and it's about time. They ought to eliminate non essential salt from such things as frozen vegetables, canned fruit, soda and other things you wouldn't even think had salt.
 
Thanks for the post.
Darn, I love adding salt to my veggies.

Caffeine is still a no-no in my book. It de-hydates you.
Don't annul the water rule.
Keep weight and exercise on the short list.
 
I rarely add salt to my food, except for baked potatoes. But I usually eat 3-4 frozen dinners a week. I was reading the back of one of them as I got ready to pop it in the microwave (Boston Market meatloaf with mashed potatoes), and the percentage of recommended daily salt content was 113%! That's right...one meal and you're already over the daily limit. Needless to say, that was the last time I ate one of those.
 
I wish they wouldn't add the salt too. I have a husband who automatically salts everything w/out tasting it. I can really tell if I've had too much salt.

I tend to disagree about the adaquate amount of water. I was told by a doctor that many people have back issues because they don't drink enough water and their discs are dehydrated. I used to wake up every morning with a back ache. I'd have to roll out of bed a certain way so as to diminish the pain. Once I started drinking a lot of water, my back ache has disappeared, my knees feel better doing stairs and the treadmill and my complexion is much better.

Maybe we take in enough water to survive - but does the average person take in enough for the body; organs, bones, tissues and all, to function at their optimum level. I don't think so. Especially if we are eating all they salt they say we are. That pulls the water right out of you.
 
Less salt, more water.

The article said their guidelines for water, 8 servings (8 ounces per serving) wasn't neccesary, the more the better.

Granted that might not apply if you're on a fluid restriction....


Cut back on the salt, tossing the salt shaker away (or at least removing it from the table first then cutting back on the salt used to prepare foods) and drink more fluids, water, tea, pop, whatever...

Orange juice is always a favorite of mine, loads of potassium too which counteract the effects of salt on water retention and the jucie replenishes the potassium I lose from the diuretics....
 
Salt shaker? What's that?

We haven't had a salt shaker on our table (except for putting one out for guests) for the whole 20-some-odd years we've been married. Still, we both have hypertension and are under doc's care for it. We just don't want to add to the problem. I don't add salt to anything, and my wife cooks with just the minimum to get the recipes to "turn out right" -- same thing with fats.

Still gotta watch it, though.
 
One of the best things you can do re salt intake is to religeously read the nutrition labels. You'll be surprised at how much salt some foods contain. Canned beans are one example. TV dinners are another one. Pickles contain tons of salt. We have tried to cut way back in our household but its an ongoing battle. I get in trouble everytime I forget to read the label. There are a few web sites that specialize in salt free, and if you ask your grocer, some of them will add some salt free to their inventory. I love to snack on nuts of which most are loaded with salt. The salt free ones just don't taste good. I compromise by mixing one can of salted nuts with about three unsalted - works for me. Do a search for "healthy heart market" for one source of no salt foods - they are pricey, but carry some nice selections. Chris
 
I hear ya Steve. I don't even know where the salt shaker is in my house. I've never added salt to anything I've eaten in my life. When I cook with it, I even try to skimp on that.

Does coffee and tea really add to the intake of water list? or does it reverse it because it dehydrates you?
 
I had heard that you really shouldn't count the full amount of liquid in your coffee and tea because it does dehydrate you.
 
I personally think it would be better to not drink the soda, tea, flavored drink mix and instead reach for the pure water. I know that when I do that, certain systems in my body work a lot better and my kidneys don't bother me as much. But, then again, I am not supposed to drink as much pure water on doctors orders. Sooo, back to the drawing board for me.:rolleyes: :)
 
I too work very hard at keeping my salt to a minimum. A few months back I was enrolled in my insurance company's (BCBSNC) heart failure program. It depressed me for a few days because I never thought of myself as having heart failure but they have sent me some very useful things such as medicine organizers, books, and flow sheets to keep up with daily weight, fluid, and sodium intake.

The amount of sodium I consume not only makes a difference in my weight but in how I feel.

I keep fresh limes in the house at all times. Very Often I use them in cooking in place of salt and never miss the salt. It works especially well in soups.
 
Hmmm, saw this in the paper this AM, not sure I agree with the counting soda and such as liquid intake. I have hypertension and I don't plan to cut down on my water intake any time soon.

Since we have been cutting down on our salt intake (Bob was a BIG salt lover, he put it on EVERYTHING) I have been reading labels and you would be real surprised at the sodium content of some products, for instance, diet coke has something like 17 gms of sodium per serving. Now since sodium and caffiene are both dehydrating and not particulary good for you I would guess that counting a soda or a cup of coffee the same as water would not exactly work.

Some foods high in Soduim that were a surprise to me:

Healthy choice meals (Almost all frozen or prepared food)
Soups (every brand I've looked at so far are pretty high, even low salt one still have a lot of salt in them)
Diet Soda's
Fruit Juices (not all, some natural ones are ok)

There are many more as I'm sure all you low sodium dieters already know.

Joan
 
Joan:

You've hit upon a big high-sodium item -- canned soups. Only ones I've bought lately have been Healthy Choice or some other with a low-sodium content.
I've started making more soups than before. Going out of town Friday after work, so I'm making vegetable beef soup tonight for my husband to eat on over the weekend while I'm gone. Found some no-salt-added canned tomatoes at Albertson's yesterday. Everything else is fresh or frozen (no sodium).
Made a chicken pot pie Tuesday (getting 3-4 meals out of it). Used no-salt-added canned Veg-All. Only used pie dough on the top. Chicken was cooked chicken tenders, cooked with diced fresh carrots/onions/celery. I did add about 1/8 tsp salt to the final mixture before turning it into the casserole dish.

If the food industry would get on the bandwagon, then Americans would be used to low-sodium foods and the difference in taste.
 
beverages count as water!

beverages count as water!

Hi:

I read this article in this morning's paper, too, as I drank my 1st 12 ounces of water for the day.

Oh boy, guess I can now count my coffee and my red wine too!

Yahoo!

I skip adding salt to every single recipe I try. And I never miss it. But I do like to shake on the pepper!
 
I think, now don't quote me on this, that the coffee and tea and pop is Ok when you're considering just fluids...

Granted, if you've got "issues" regarding sodium, sugar, calories, carbohydrates, ceffiene, whatever then you might opt for some other form of beverage.

Some of these drinks have more or less than others. I keep an eye out for pop with lower sodium counts. Sprite Remix (I love that stuff,) Sierra Mist, and Mug Rootbeer have less sodium than Coke or Pepsi. The first two have less sugar. Rootbeer has loads of sugar, as I guess most "dark pops" do...

I tend to be most concerned with sodium, then sugar/calories, then caffiene which never seemed to bother me unless it was in MAJOR doses (high test coffee with espresso in it which I do once in a VERY great while)


Obviously, water is a preference over soft drinks when it comes to just putting fluids into your system. I usually have a 20oz bottle of water in the 'fridge with about a tsp of lemon juice and maybe a tsp of cranberry juice in it for flavor. I hit that when I need a quick sip of something and I watch how much of it I polish off in a day.


I think pretty much EVERYONE, regardless of their health status, could do with less salt in their diets. You're not losing that much really in the long run by putting the salt shaker on the table in the food pantry. if you're salting foods that much at the dinner table then maybe it's time to try a few new recipes or buy a nice book on the subject and play around in the kitchen.

I'm having a grand ole' time cooking away. Made a beef stew a few days ago substituting venison steak for the beef and then I made kumara (sweet potato, kumara is native to New Zealand) soup.
I'm doing a low sodium southern "fried" chicken this weekend and another batch of my now infamous roasted red pepper soup....

All low sodium, all VERY tasty.


Healthy Heart Market is good for a few things. They have no sodium potato chips which will disappear from your kitchen within a day of the shipment arriving, very good and guilt free.

I've had better pickles though. There used to be a brand called Aunt Jane's (I think that's what it was) that made a low sodium pickle, you could buy it off the shelf at the local grocery store for the same general price as salted pickles. But the stores here don't carry it any more...
 
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