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I've got a few pet peeves. People who don't know the rules of the road is one that comes off the top of my head. Another are mothers who smoke, and this is of course extended to expectant mothers.

If you're paying attention, you may remember me recalling an incident when I left Cleveland Clinic after my valve surgery, seeing the mother of a child who was a resident only feet from where my bed was in the Children's Hospital, a child who had spent most of her life in that hospital waiting for a heart transplant, a transplant that happened two weeks before I got to go home. There was mommie, standing on the curb in a light snow/drizzle, puffing away on a cigarette.

Yeah, that's a pet peeve.


So anyways. I was surfing the web killing time while waiting for Sports to give me photos to set up for Sunday's paper and I came across the image file attached to this post. It's obviously scanned from a newspaper, I reduced it some for slower computers but beyond that it's untouched.

It caused quite a furor apparently and the author of the article the photo was for wrote a column in response to the attention the image generated"


Criticism doesn't bother smoker
By Joe Kennedy
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Mellissa Williamson came to her door smoking a cigarette Thursday morning. It was a sign that the Southeast Roanoke woman didn't know or didn't care about the furor her photograph had ignited since it appeared in The Roanoke Times on Sept. 20.
The photo showed her seven months pregnant and smoking a cigarette. It accompanied a story about unpopular "traffic-calming" measures under way on Bullitt Avenue, where she lives. The caption said she worries about the effect of jackhammer noise on her unborn child. She couldn't have touched off a controversy more quickly if she'd called President Bush an Islamic extremist.
Dozens of calls and e-mails came to The Roanoke Times impugning her reputation and criticizing the paper for printing the photo. It glamorized or promoted smoking while pregnant, some people said. At least one syndicated talk radio host mentioned it, and the picture proliferated on Web sites, with the caption and some wise remark like, "Yeah, the noise is what the baby needs to fear."
That's life
We'll deal with these issues one at a time.
First, the furor: Yes, Mellissa Williamson, 35, violates sound medical behavior every time she takes a puff. Yes, she deserves censure.
Second, the weighing in of egomaniacal talk-radio hosts: Yes, they're correct in saying Williamson's unborn child - a boy named Emmitt, after her "old man," who also smokes - can be damaged by her smoking.
But egomaniacal talk-radio hosts should be viewed with antipathy because they troll for people to demean. "Mercy" is not in their vocabularies. Their favorite word begins and ends with "I."
Third, the newspaper's decision to publish the picture: My view? That's journalism.
My bosses' view? The same.
"A good newspaper depicts reality, for good or ill," Times Editor Mike Riley said, "and sometimes people don't like what they see on our pages. ... We're not promoting smoking or pregnancy; we're simply documenting one person's viewpoint on an issue."
Managing Editor Rich Martin concurred: "Our photographers are out there to show what's really going on - not to stage or edit a scene just so we can photograph someone in a more favorable light."
Staging and editing scenes constitute filmmaking, advertising or propaganda, but not journalism.
When you write in your journal, do you present the truth as you lived it or a purified account that makes you look good?
Never mind.
A target market
Thursday morning, Williamson said she knows smoking is bad because people have criticized her since she took up the practice 20 years ago.
"I really don't pay that much attention to it," she said. "If people don't like it, that's their opinion. They've got theirs and I've got mine."
She has tried every way to quit without success, she said.
As for smoking while pregnant, she said her doctor told her "it would be good if I cut back, but if I totally quit, it would not only cause stress on me but it would cause stress on the baby."
Speaking generally, Eric Earnhart, spokesman for Carilion Health System, said any pregnant person who comes to its facilities "is going to be advised to quit smoking."
It is possible, he said, that a person having difficulty quitting would be advised at least to cut down.
Williamson said she has cut down from two packs per day to one-half pack.
Smoking is estimated to account for 20 percent to 30 percent of low birth-weight babies, up to 14 percent of preterm deliveries and 10 percent of all infant deaths. Asthma is twice as likely in children whose mothers smoke more than 10 cigarettes per day. This is just a fraction of the possible harm.
"The most effective way to protect the fetus is to quit smoking," the American Lung Association says.
Williamson is a small woman with long brown hair. She didn't finish high school. She hasn't seen her father since she was 13. She has worked in fast food, but doesn't have a job.
"I've heard of the Internet," she said, "but I've never used it. I have no knowledge of computers whatsoever."
She didn't learn about her widespread critics until a few days after the photo appeared. Her ex-husband said his co-workers had talked about it.
"It didn't bother me," she said. "It went in one ear and out the other. I've heard this all my life."
I think she's an easy target, and I think Andrea Siebentritt of the American Cancer Society had the most thoughtful response.
"We have to see her as an audience we need to reach out to," she said.




I'm posting it cause I got something to say. (uh-oh... :eek: )

I do this work, I'm a newspaper photographer and I could easily have been taking a similar photo for a story regarding a similar issue. New York State recently passed a law requiring "hands free sets" for drivers using cellphones, the thinking being that if you're driving with one hand on the wheel and the other with a cell pressed to your head, you might smash into something. Ok, sounds reasonable enough. As the law was passed, we did a story about it and i was assigned to go get a photo of some hapless driver in "violation" of the new law.

Yup, did that, got several shots actually, including a New York State Trooper doing exactly what he was supposed to ticket other people for....

Whoops.

That photo didn't run, another did that actually had two drivers stopped at an intersection waiting for the light to change while yappin' away.

I'm just going off here 'cause it bugs me, the smoking thing, and because this example illustrates an interesting position the "media" (and those that produce it) can sometimes find themselves in.

As a journalist, my goal is to "find the facts" (a terrible cliche') of the story and behind it. I have to be careful to, A) not become part of the story, B) not spin the story towards my own personal views, and C) tell the story accurately, as it happened, without staging or set up. Well the trick is, this doesn't always happen. I've shot scenes of people in important positions doing things they aught not do. I once shot a guy who was involved in a polar bear swim for charity. he had filed a workers comp claim and other medical related claims for being unable to work due to a back injury, yet he was in a Speedo and water shoes floating around an icy harbor on a blustery, sub-zero January day.... Whoops again.

I just found this interesting, the juxtaposition of images and statements. So many questions come to mind with this: Which is more harmful, the noise or the smoking? Does she recognize the dangers, does she understand them? Did the photographer realize what he was shooting when the photo was taken, the implications?

I sometimes change things when I set up a shot on an assignment. Someone poses with a can of beer sitting on the table before them or a glass of hard liquor in their hand, "How about setting that aside until after I take the photo sir?" Is that manipulation, is it good journalism?


Think about what you see on TV, in the newspaper, in a magazine. The world is ripe with images that have been somehow doctored to advance a particular mesage or viewpoint. Sometimes it's with legitimate and acceptable intentions, sometimes it's done with malace, conceit, or outright fraud and libel.

Another pet peeve: I don't think enough people in this world question what they see and hear. I think too many of us buy into things on a first impression, first inclination, whether right or wrong. I also think the world would be a much better place if we could take a moment and reflect on an issue before making a judgement about it, before taking a side. We're too quick to assume, to agree/disagree. We need to take more time reflecting and trying to understand the facts of the matter.

The photo illustrated an apparently (by the essay response from the reporter) and undereducated woman from a more or less broken family history who either truely felt the noise issue was important to her unborn child while smoking was not a real concern, OR was just looking for a little fame by agreeing to comment on the issue and be photographed for the story...


We get a LOT of people like the second category. They're itching to get into the paper, either themselves, or at least be credited for bringing "some big thing" to our attention...

This is what I love about my job, shots like this that pose all KINDS of questions and make people THINK about the issue I'm addressing, or at least they should....
 
I totally agree

I totally agree

I get so upset when I see people smoking around their kids. In my opinion it is a form of child abuse. You are doing something that can kill your child. Unfortunatley I was around smokers for several years when I was very young. I now have allergies and asthma. I get a lot of colds and respitory infections. HUM, is there a connection??? Maybe that is why I get so upset. Who knows. I am a teacher's assistant at my son's school and there are some kids in the first grade class I am in that just wreak of smoke. Their clothes, backpacks and folders all smell like they were left in a bar or something. It is so sad. These kids have no choice. They are forced to breath this toxic stuff and suffer the consequences. Then the parents wonder why the kids have problems. The women who smoke when pregnant are more likely to have babies born with all kinds of problems. They are not only physical problems but emotional problems. Sorry for my rampage. This is a subject I feel very strongly about. I even did a paper in college on the subject so I have done a lot of research. Thanks for letting me rant.

Michelle
 
People make a big fuss over the effects of illegal drugs on pregnancy - witness the "crack baby" scare of a few years ago. Fact is that alcohol is the most toxic substance for a fetus. Nicotine is associated with low birth weight which, in turn, is associated with any number of problems for the child. Very few drugs, legal or illegal, are safe for a fetus: Folks who are addicted to a drug, legal or illegal, should kick the habit before they get pregnant.

But responsible addicts are rather few and far between.
 
Nothing to do with pregnancy (at least I hope not!), but my mother, who will be 68 on April 18th, quit smoking about a month ago. She was diagnosed with COPD at the first of the year; she balked at the diagnosis and rebelled against her doctor's orders to quit smoking. Her behavior was a shock to my three sisters and me; our mother has always been someone you could reason with when it came down to serious matters. She didn't budge at first. So, we all left her alone. Then we discovered that we didn't see her smoking. She didn't talk about it at all, but we realized yesterday that she's using nicorette. Hallelujah! I guess she had to come to grips with the demon on her own. We're very happy, obviously. She is doing so much better. No more coughing. That's a big wow, for sure. Your thread just reminded me this morning of our joy. Now our peeve with Mom has ended.
 
My sister in law continued to smoke when she was pregnant. I told her it was the most selfish thing I'd ever seen. I guess it was the wrong thing to say, since we haven't spoken in about 12 years.
 
Ok,
I might be starting some junk here. (You've been warned!)
I totally agree that smoking is bad for the fetus. I think it is even worse when infants or children are exposed to it in their environment.

However, here's my own personal experience.

30 years ago I was pregnant with our first child. I smoked throughout the entire pregnancy. I smoked in the labor room. I had a 54 hour labor, and I smoked through 49 hours of it.

Results were a 7 lb. 3oz. healthy baby girl. This little baby grew up to be a successful business woman with an IQ of 148.
Go figure.
 
Mary, I guess you were one of the luckier mothers... but then there is SOOOO much more information available to us these days about the dangers of smoking (and alcohol, and soft cheeses, etc...) than there was 30 years ago - and it's not just isolated to the internet (I'm sure doctors are aware of - and obliged to share - this sort of information).

I have to agree that it is pretty irresponsible for anyone who is pregant in this day and age to engage in any activity which is considered harmful to their baby. I also came from a really screwed up, dysfunctional family, and went through my years of drug and alcohol abuse, but at 33 I've been around long enough to figure out drugs and alcohol are bad news full stop. I don't think you can really plead "ignorance" at age 35
Thursday morning, Williamson said she knows smoking is bad because people have criticized her since she took up the practice 20 years ago.
"I really don't pay that much attention to it," she said. "If people don't like it, that's their opinion. They've got theirs and I've got mine."

Still, I can't help but agree with Harpoon that her complaint in light of her smoking (and I'll give her credit for at least cutting down) would have been "great copy" for the paper - regardless of what their "official" response was. A story about jackhammering having an adverse affect on an unborn child would have been a brief story and that would have been that, but put a picture of a mother with cigarette in hand making that complaint and you KNOW people are going to get on their soapboxes.... the small story has become front page news! The media well may claim they were just reporting "factually" and "techinically" they were, but honestly.... do they really think people don't realise what's going on?


Anyhoo.... don't get me started on the media and their "unbiased" views...!!!! I'll just stick to my other pet peeve of people never sharpening their kitchen knives and leaving "greeblies" in the sugar!


A : )
 
"People who don't know the rules of the road is one that comes off the top of my head."

Rules of the Road????? What Rules?????? It seems like each day things grow worse with drivers "doing their own thing", running red (and I mean RED) lights, passing on curves, driving too fast, weaving in and out of traffic, following too close, talking on a cell phone and not paying attention to what is going on outside their vehicle, eating and drinking while driving, driving while under the influence, reading newspapers, books, etc. While I was driving delivery trucks I saw almost everything. Just about time you think you had seen it all, someone would come up with something new. I had a car pass me on the interstate doing 75 plus miles an hour and looked over to see the driver WORKING A CROSSWORD PUZZLE. Had the book resting on the steering wheel. Also, setting up higher in a truck, you might be surprised what people are actually doing in their vehicle. I won't go there--family channel--but I've been surprised (and shocked) several times.

As for smoking, it was by the grace of God that I didn't pick up that habit. My father smoked at least three packs a day. You couldn't go into his office without walking into a cloud of smoke. My grandfather smoked so much he kept a carton of UNFILTERED KOOLS in his glove box. And he was replacing it just about every other day. COUGH!! COUGH!!! COUGH!!!! And I've noticed that a lot of firemen (not all) are smokers.

Georgia recently passed a state wide law to limit inside smoking. It did get watered down some and they finally allowed Bars and places like that as an exception. BAD HABIT.

My 2 cents--or was that a buck and a half.......

May God Bless,

Danny
 
Yes, "rules of the road"...


Tonight, while on my way back to the office with dinner, the scanner goes off, MVA in Sunset Bay, one PI, possible head injuries...

"One PI" is short for one individual with injuries.

Seconds later they called for a helicopter.

I headed out there and arrived shortly after the ambulance left (I caught the train that the ambulance beat.) and found a minivan which had driven well off the roadway into a thick stand of trees which surrounded a "babbling brook" which was swollen from the melting snow we got over the weekend...

30 y/o woman, had probably been drinking, was trying to light another cigarette while driving home. She was less than 300 ft from her house. Lost control of the vehicle and put into off the road and (apparently) smashed her face in too. They air-lifted her to an area trauma center for that...


Yeah, alcohol will probably do more damage than cigarette smoking. It's not so much damage done in utero as much as it's damage done over a childhood of second hand smoke exposure, though cigarrettes can contribute to low birthweights, prematurity, and other issues that inhibit fetal developement (causing birth defects.)

Fetal alcohol syndrome (from mothers who drink while pregnant) cause those same problems, just that they're a LITTLE more common...

Same with crackheads and whatever else.

Not even supposed to take aspirin in the second and third trimester of pregnancy. I don't recall if you can take it during the first 3 months.


ANYTHING like that which you decide to do, smoking, drinking, taking heavy narcotics, whatever, has an effect on your child. Why start him/her off on the wrong foot? Why start them off with something running agaisnt them? A child is going to have a difficult enough time in this world, why make it anny worse, why risk it?


With me, there are no excuses.
 
One big problem is that we don't take contraception seriously - with the result that half of the pregnancies in the USA weren't planned. Which means that for half of the pregnancies in the USA, the woman doesn't even suspect she's pregnant until she begin missing her period.

Couple that with the fact that alcohol does its most damage to the fetus during the early stages of pregnancy, and you've got a recipe for kids with central nervous system damage (causing, problems ranging from attention deficit disorder to mental retardation) due to fetal alcohol exposure.

Heard a good joke about contraception the other day:

Q - What do you call a person who practices the rhythm method?

A - A parent.

[Not necesarily true, BTW. My parents successfully practiced the rhythm method.]
 
Being that I used to be a smoker myself....and THANK GOD I QUIT THAT, WOOHOO!!!!! I do have a couple things to say about that. First off, my mom was never a smoker and my dad always was. My mother made sure that my dad NEVER smoked in the house or around me. How did I repay her by the way???...hmm how about I start smoking. So dumb! My goal has been since, to tell every single young person that I come across to stop now while it's easy and try to convince them how stupid the habit is to begin with (not to mention expensive).

I had always planned on quitting when I chose to have children. I HATE seeing pregnant women smoking :mad: ...how can you possibly just take for granted that nothing will happen? Why take a chance? I just don't get it. :confused: Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!!!!

and in the words of Forest Gump....thats all I have to say about that....
 
Barry said:
...My parents successfully practiced the rhythm method...


Ummmm... Not to nit-pick, but I dare say that maybe, just maybe, their practice of the "rhythm method" wasn't completely successfull...

Afterall, you're here, right?


:D
 
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