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Any one have experience taking Niacin to raise HDL? My cardio is getting ready to prescribe it. My HDL has been low for a long time and he thinks the risk is too great. Even marathon training only raise it a little. Blood test tomorrow.

Thnaks.
 
The only caveat I would have is that niacin can affect the liver. If my understanding of it is correct, you want to avoid the slow-release, "no flush" varieties. Niacin is known to cause brief hot flashes.
 
Low HDL ?

Low HDL ?

I have always had a low HDL less than 30. My FP says only exercise and alcohol can help it. ( I exercise hard 3 times a week and have a martini or 2 every night) He has never recommended niacin. I don't have much faith in it either. Well, I'm 79 so I'm not gonna die young!
 
Hello!

Hello!

Hi Tom. Was wondering where all this went. I also have low HDL and never heard the biz about Niacin or liquor!! Only about exercise. I do know that it is an inherited thing since my son at 23 just had a physical and his doctor highlighted the notion that he was born with it. His recommendation was exercise. Somehow I question the liquor! This was a college senior! He'd just been celebrating quite abit!! Now he has a new, larger campus to walk around in for grad school (had to sell the car) so I'm hoping the added exercise will benefit him (though he works out fairly regularly). I had already stocked him with B vitamins to relieve stress (he's a pretty anxious kinda guy) and would love to suggest that it could help his cholesterol also -- as in talking him into taking the vitamins I bought him :) . What info do you have supporting the Niacin?

AND, how are you? Did your physician end up prescribing you the Niacin?

Thanks!! Marguerite
 
I take niaspan for cholesterol. I may be adding a statin (just saw the cardiologist and she wants me to take a low dose in addition to the niaspan).

It's not exactly "hot flashes" as we know and love them - it's more like hot flushing that starts on the top of the head and works its way down. It's rather annoying. I got up once when in full flush and my face and chest were cherry red.

They gradually increase your dose to minimize this effect; they also have a suggested regimen and when followed, the flushing isn't bad. And it goes away. (take aspirin at least an hour before the niaspan and have a low fat snack)

I was hoping to avoid statins, but the niaspan hasn't lowered the cholesterol enough and the cardiologist thinks everyone ought to take statins anyway ("it should be put in the water supply").
 
My cardio's office hasn't called with a script yet. Perhaps the nurse overstated the case. Perhaps the cardio has more urgent fish to fry. Based on the flusing issue, I haven't been too excited about prompting them.

My HDL has been in the 30's since we started checking it post AVR. On cardio saw 35 and said that he didn't want to treat it. He refereed to as "decorating". My current cardio mentioned possibly treating it at my visit two weeks ago.

With a current HDL of 38 (highest in my history), I could be persuaded to leave it alone, eat more fish, even take omega-3 supplements. Apparently evey 1 point rize in your HDL lowers your heart attack risk by 2%.

My total cholesterol is 177. Ratio is thus 4.7 (not great, but within guidlines).The nurse anticipated that the cardio considers that high for a mechanical valve, and he may want to treat that as well. Again, there's a good chance that she is overstating her anticipation.

Add statins to flouride in the water. Might as well add low dose aspirin as well.

Georgia, my undestanding is that statins lower the LDL and that Niacin raises the HDL. I'm kinda red faced anyway (from Coumadin?).

I'l wait a few days and call back.
 
Niacin and Gout

Niacin and Gout

I was started on Niacin for cholesterol by my PCP when it was found I couldn't tolerate Lipitor. A couple of weeks later, I came down with gout in my left foot - so bad I was given crutches. My new (at the time) cardio took me off of it immediately. Apparently, if you're predisposed to gout, Niacin can aggravate it -

Just another possibly useless data point from yours truly.
 
Niacin also lowers LDL and triglycerides; my HDL is fine, but in the last year my LDL has skyrocketed. They've come down substantially, but not far enough. That's why the cardio wants me on a low dose statin as well.
 
After waiting a week and hearing nothing, I called my cardio's nurse. She gave me a big apology for not letting me know that no treatment is ordered based on the HDL at 38.

I asked her about omega 3 fish oil supplement. She said is was worth a try and suggested phasing in the dose to avoid diarrhea. I asked her about alcohol rasing HDL, and she laughed - hadn't heard that before.
 
Well, Darn!!

Well, Darn!!

Well, Phooey!! My husband and I are soon to be empty nesters and we've started eating out every friday night at our favorite Italian restaurant. We frequent so regularly they know us by name. The bartender (you can eat at the bar!!) is adorable so I decided to let loose (having low HDL) and have 2 drinks last night!! And I thought this was helping me!!! :D

Tom. I thought there was something questionable about fish oil and heart patients with arythmmias. I thought it was mentioned here. Could have misread it. Bob, do you remember reading something here? :confused:

:) Marguerite
 
Marguerite53 said:
Well, Phooey!! My husband and I are soon to be empty nesters and we've started eating out every friday night at our favorite Italian restaurant. We frequent so regularly they know us by name. The bartender (you can eat at the bar!!) is adorable so I decided to let loose (having low HDL) and have 2 drinks last night!! And I thought this was helping me!!! :D

Tom. I thought there was something questionable about fish oil and heart patients with arythmmias. I thought it was mentioned here. Could have misread it. Bob, do you remember reading something here? :confused:
:) Marguerite

Marguerite,
Bobby Boy has flown the coop and left for a week's vacation. :eek: You might want to PM him so he can answer this when he returns. :)
Mary
 
Fish oils fight arrhytmias

Fish oils fight arrhytmias

Found this from the AHA:


"Fatty acid from fish oil fights arrhythmias, sudden death



DALLAS, April 9 - Daily supplements of a fatty acid found in fish oil halves the risk of sudden death in heart attack survivors, researchers report in today's Circulation: Journal of the American Heart Association.

Previous research has found that eating oily fish such as tuna and salmon can reduce the risk of sudden cardiac death caused by a particular type of irregular heartbeat. This study suggests fish-oil supplements, rather than dietary fish oil, could be a therapy without side effects for heart patients.

The finding is from an analysis of data from the GISSI-Prevenzione trial. That study found that 1 gram daily of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) - found in fish oil and known also as omega-3 fatty acids - significantly reduced the risk of death overall and sudden death in people who had heart attacks.

The benefits were not due to changes in cholesterol levels or by reducing potentially fatal blood clotting.

The new analysis reveals that the lower mortality rate for the n-3 PUFA patients, compared with patients who got a placebo, resulted largely from a 42 percent reduction in sudden cardiac deaths at three months follow-up.

"That was a surprise," says lead author Roberto Marchioli, M.D., head of the laboratory of clinical epidemiology of cardiovascular disease at Consorzio Mario Negri Sud, a research institute in Santa Maria Imbaro, Italy. "The risk of death, and sudden death, is higher in the first months after a heart attack. It is exactly in this period that the effect on sudden death was noted."

The analysis also shows that the lifesaving benefit of n-3 PUFA is likely due to reducing episodes of potentially fatal irregular heartbeats, called arrhythmias. About 250,000 people in the United States die each year from coronary heart disease without reaching the hospital alive. Most of these deaths are probably due to sudden death caused by an arrhythmia.

"This study is important because there is no really effective therapy for arrhythmias," says Alexander Leaf, M.D., professor of clinical medicine at Harvard Medical School in Boston, who wrote an accompanying editorial about the new findings.

The Italian researchers note that study participants ate a Mediterranean-style diet - high in fruits, vegetables, olive oil and fish. Yet, despite the same healthy diet, those who received the n-3 PUFA supplements had fewer sudden deaths than those who did not.

N-3 PUFA are essential fatty acids - the body needs them to function properly but does not make them. Humans must obtain them through food, which in the case of n-3 PUFA means eating fish, such as salmon, tuna or mackerel.

In the GISSI-Prevenzione study, researchers enrolled 11,323 patients throughout Italy who had suffered recent heart attacks and randomized them into four groups.

In addition to standard medical treatment and lifestyle counseling for their condition, 2,835 participants received 1 gram of n-3 PUFA daily (equal to one fatty fish meal); 2,830 took 300 milligrams of vitamin E daily; another 2,830 took both; and 2,828 took a placebo.

In the new analysis, Marchioli and his colleagues found that at three months, patients treated with n-3 PUFA had significantly lower mortality than those not taking the supplements (1.1 percent vs. 1.6 percent). By the end of the trial at 42 months follow-up, mortality was 8.4 percent for those on n-3 PUFA and 9.8 percent for those not taking it.

The reduction of sudden cardiac death risk from n-3 PUFA treatment was nearly significant at 3 months (0.5 percent vs. 0.7 percent for those not on the supplement). By the study's end at 42 months, the risk of sudden death was 2.0 percent for people taking n-3 PUFA, vs. 2.7 percent for those who did not.

"The mortality benefit was mainly due to a reduction in sudden death," Marchioli says.

How n-3 PUFA protects the heart is unknown. However, Leaf and his colleagues have shown that the fatty acids play an important role in regulating the electrical activity of heart muscle cells. "They stabilize these cells so they are very resistant to arrhythmias," he says.

Leaf also notes that these findings support a theory that an imbalance of n-3 PUFA and fatty acids called n-6 PUFA promote arrhythmias. He suggests that adding n-3 PUFA to an already healthy diet, while reducing n-6 PUFA (which are abundant in plant seed cooking oils - i.e. corn, safflower, sunflower seed oils), improved the ratios of the two types of fatty acids, therefore, decreasing the risk of sudden death.

Marchioli emphasizes that the study findings need to be confirmed.

The American Heart Association does not recommend fish oil supplements (capsules) and will not recommend then until there is compelling evidence that they benefit overall cardiovascular health. Instead, the association recommends consuming two servings of fish twice a week. Fish are a good source of protein without the high saturated fat found in fatty meat products.

Co-authors are Federica Barzi, M.S.; Elena Bomba, M.D.; Carmine Chieffo, M.D.; Domenico Di Gregorio, M.D.; Rocco Di Mascio, M.D.; Maria Grazia Franzosi, M.D.; Enrico Geraci, M.D.; Giacomo Levantesi, M.D.; Aldo Pietro Maggioni, M.D.; Loredana Mantini, M.D.; Rosa Maria Marfisi, M.S.; G. Mastrogiuseppe, M.D.; Nicola Mininni, M.D.; Gian Luigi Nicolosi, M.D.; Massimo Santini, M.D.; Carlo Schweiger, M.D.; Luigi Tavazzi, M.D.; Gianni Tognoni, M.D.; Corrado Tucci, M.D.; and Franco Valagussa, M.D.


American Heart Association "
 

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