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buffhughes

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Howdy all... I've been lurking around here for the past couple of weeks and read about so many experiences with valve issues and replacement. I'm not living vicariously mind you..rather trying to make sense of the events in my life since the second week of January.

I've had heart issues for some time having been diagnosed with coronary artery disease at 29; I had an artherectomy with stent at age 40 (1998). There is a strong history of heart issues in my family so a few years ago I got "religion" about diet and exercise - lost almost 90lb and did cardio and strength training 4-5 times a week. I always figured that CAD would get me to the OR and never imagined valve issues.

I've had a murmur since I was a kid - an "innocent" murmur was what my Mom called it and said I would grow out of it. Never thought much about it as I was growing up. I recall when they did the cath for the stent that the doc commented about my "small aorta"; they had to pull out the catheter and use a smaller one. I always figured he was talking about the aorta.

Anyway, I've been fine since 1998 and with no issues, lost real contact with a cardio and had only a few tests in the interim - a cath in 2004 that was negative and an echo in 2006 which I was told was negative(although negative for what?). I dont go to the docs unless I am sick so usual visit is to get my yearly scrips for maintainance meds. I called in mid Jan and expected no trouble getting refils. They called and said I had to see the doc to get refills; I went and he gave me heck and started to read my file. I was a new pt to him (he took over my old MD's practice) and started to ask more and more questions about my heart. He listened and then asked "Did you know you have a murmur?"; I told him I had it since childhood. He said he wanted a couple of tests - a transthoracic echo and a stress-echo. The echo was on Tuesday; the stress-echo was scheduled for Wednesday. As we were getting ready to go Wed am the docs office called and said the stress was cancelled and that I needed to see a cardio asap.

I saw the cardio and he said that I had aortic stenosis, bicuspid valve with an estimated 1cm2 area and mean pressure gradient about 27mm. He bluntly said to expect surgery in about 1-2 years. He also said he wanted to do a TEE to get a better look at the valve. I was a bit shocked at the finding and at suddenly needing surgery but a year or two from now was at least time to prepare.

I went to the TEE and he told me after the test ( or at least my DW said he told me ) that he now estimates aortic area at .8cm2 and that he expects surgery within 2-3 months.

I have always had issues with stamina even as a kid. I could never run fast; I can walk all day long. Even after sessions with a personal trainer, I never had stamina for high output for long period; low output I can go forever. Now maybe there really is a reason for this. Maybe this will improve post surgery.

I am so glad I found this site but now have so many questions about dealing with the changes, choices and concern. How do I find a surgeon? Will the cardio recommend one? He wants to do a cath? Why? What more does it tell him? How long from cath to surgery? If I want a specific valve (mechanical) can I just tell him or do I have to find a surgeon who works with that valve? I have BAV- how can I ensure that the cardio and surgeon click on matters of aortic defects?

Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Thanks for all your help already!


Larry
 
Welcome Aboard Larry -

I recommend that you look over the Bicuspid Aortic Valve and Connective Tissue Disorder Forum for LOTS of pertinent information. Be sure to ask ALL Surgeons you interview about their experience dealing with BAV and the often associated CTD issues. These are a step beyond 'mere' valve replacement surgery. Personally I would NOT be comfortable using a surgeon whose practice is mainly dealing with Coronary Artery Bypass Surgery and an occasional 'Valve Job'. Surgeons at the Major Heart Centers are more likely to have experience with your issues.

'AL Capshaw'
 
Larry, a heart felt WELCOME to our OHS family glad you found the site there is a wealth of knowledge here for the future and I hope this guides you or at least aids you .....
a list of acronyms and short forms http://www.valvereplacement.org/forums/showthread.php?27413-List-of-Acronyms-and-Glossary

what to ask pre surgery http://www.valvereplacement.org/forums/showthread.php?26668-Pre-surgery-consultation-list-of-questions

what to take with you to the hospital http://www.valvereplacement.org/forums/showthread.php?13283-what-to-take-to-the-hospital-a-checklist

Preparing the house for post surgical patients http://www.valvereplacement.org/forums/showthread.php?19034-Getting-Comfortable-Around-the-House&p=218802

These are from various forum stickies and there is plenty more to read as well
 
Hello and welcome to our wonderful community.

My cardio told me that her recommended surgeon wouldn't see me until I'd had the heart cath. I waited 3 years for my aortic valve to get small enough (and me feeling practically dead enough!!:wink2:) for her to order the cath. The numbers they get from the cath much better determine the shape of the deteriorating valve. Surgeons have no interest in going in too early, I guess.

My addition puts you somewhere in your early 50's. ?? Valve choice is very personal and there are good reasons to go mechanical and there are good reasons to go tissue. You may be at the age where you really have a choice. Please use the next few weeks to really, really investigate the pros and cons of both. When you have a good sense of your educated choice, you will be able to ask your cardio to recommend a surgeon who has experience with the one you think you would like. Your particular physiology may demand one or another.

When my valve hit 1.0 cm sq and I was told it would be 1-3 years wait for my surgery, I decided to switch cardios to be attached to my preferred metro hospital instead of the sleepier one in the suburbs. To me, the choice of hospital is very important as you really want state of the art and very experienced staff. It sounds like you have time for this if you become frustrated in any way with the progress of your "journey".

VR.org is a GREAT place for suggestions and advice. Your doctors are going to give you the best answers, but we can help you investigate and formulate good questions. What I have loved most about this place is that we give patients "voice" and courage to get the answers they need to make their decisions.

Thanks for joining us!!

Marguerite
 
I suspect that the main reason that Surgeons want their patients to have a Heart Catheterization before they see them is so that they will be able to assess whether they also need to have Coronary Artery Bypass Surgery in addition to a 'Valve Job'.

'AL Capshaw'
 
Hi Larry - Welcome to the site. You are right on top of this thing already, aren't you? Nice.

Your cardio will probably be able to recommend a surgeon; but don't be afraid to ask around in your area for names of other excellent and highly recommended surgeons that ones have personal knowledge of or experience with, if you want to consult with more than one surgeon. I think most surgeons are ready and/or willing to put in either a mechanical or a tissue valve; but it's also a good thing to specifically address with them. Ask them everything.

I ended up consulting with three highly recommended surgeons. And I ended up finding the cardio we liked through the surgeon we chose, rather than the other way around; and we felt like they worked very well together.

I think the cath results are more precise than the echo results are. And from cath to surgery can sometimes be pretty quick. Or they may find out you can safely wait a bit yet.

Again, welcome to the site. Post again and take care :)
 
Hi Larry. Welcome to the site. Lots of good advice above. I would add that A CT scan seems like the gold standard for assessing the state of the entire thoracic aorta. I know that as a less than satisfied BAV owner :biggrin2: that I was relieved mightily to learn that I had no other thoracic bubbles (aortic arch & descending aorta.) You can research surgeons on line. With BAV/aneurysm you really want to go with a surgical center and surgeon that is experienced and skilled in addressing these issues, e.g. a major heart center or university hospital. BAV and aneurysm repair is now being done with minimally invasive techniques at these sorts of hospitals.

Best wishes,

Jim
 
Hi Larry,
A lot of us have been where you are now: "I've known about a murmur, but SURGERY!!!". Your cardio will surely recommend a surgeon, but you can look on your own too. I think a dedicated cardiac surgical center is the best choice, if your circumstances and insurance allow. One thing about your post caught my attention, about your cardio wanting to do a cath. In our area, the surgeon asks for a cath, mainly to see if coronary arteries need work too, BUT it needed to be done with a month of surgery date. All the questions in your next to last paragraph are good ones to ask your cardio and anyone else you see.
Keep us posted.
 
As others have said, your cardio will recommend a surgeon. I also recommend getting 2nd opinions. This is pretty important to rely on just one Cardio. Even with the Cleveland Clinic nearby, with many CCF trained people around, I received many differing opinions prior to my 1st. Make sure you understand what needs to be done and what your options are.

You are at the right place on this site.

Scott
 
Hi Larry, I'm fairly new to the site, but I'm having AVR on Friday an getting fairly comfortable with the idea.. The great people in the above posts, I believe, have all the info TOTALY correct. I had to have a cath before the surgeon would see me. He had to know all the details. If you have not had a cath, it's not a big deal, at least for me. I've had 2. Really no pain, just laying in bed for 4 hours and not moving your leg. The last one I watched the picture show on the monitor. I'm 61 and going tissue. I believe in younger people the valve choice is the big decision. Do your homework well. There's lots to consider.
Take care!
John
 
Valve choice, for me, has been more difficult than any apprehension I had about the surgery itself. Both types - tissue and mechanical - are better than the valve I currently have right now. That said, once I made a decision on what type of valve I wanted, I pursued a surgeon that had experience with that particular make and model. It just gives me a 'warm and fuzzy' feeling, that's all. My wife and I have discussed the lack of a centralized database that might reveal stats by surgeon - how many OHSs has he done? What type of valves - tissue vs mechanical - were installed? Specific make and model experience/preference? VR.org and the valve manufacturers reps were the best sources of data in this respect, but a one-stop website would be a great resource. I might pursue this in some manner after I get to the other side of the mountain. Regardless, read, read, read, and read some more. There is a lot of info to digest and it is is found in so many places.
 
Welcome to the "Waiting Room", Larry. I am new to the site as well, after lurking several weeks, reading all I could...I knew this was the best site and so happy I finally found it !!!. I understand your shock as well, about finding out you have a bicuspid valve, when you had a murmur dating back to your childhood. Mine was just found recently, as well. It seems to happen alot...people who have had heart murmurs their whole life, even when they have been under the care of a Cardiologist, they seem to miss the cause of them. I am not sure why...but I am so thankful yours has been found too. I am so sorry this has happened to you, but I am so grateful you found your way here... ( I have started leaving the "Porch light" on here, to make it easier to find )
The people here have tons of experience and first hand knowledge... they seem to be very up to date ,in regards to what is going on, in the world of Cardiac Medicine. I agree with JustAsk, making the decision as to which valve to use, for me, as been the tough choice... as I really have no choice about the AVR, with a triple bypass...so JustAsk, I will be wishing you the best of luck and a speedy recovery on 3/16/11, as I will be right behind you in the "waiting line", on 3/17/11...I will see you on the post-op side ! So Larry, your in the right place....again, welcome!!!
Welcome to you as well, John. My thoughts and prayers will be with you, and your family on Friday....may you have a speedy recovery !!!
Renee

PS wondering how Steve is doing, as I know he had his surgery March1... want to say his words which have made me smile...."Go Team 2011 "!!!!!
 
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