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bcreyes

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So I just found out from my doctor that my aortic valve has a pretty substantial leak, and that the part of the aorta right after it is enlarged about 2.5 times what it should be. I am a smoker and was wondering if smoking could be responsible for this condition or if quitting could reverse my condition. I found out 30 days ago and haven't touched tobacco since. My doctor hasn't gotten back to me yet on when my surgery will be but I have decided on the mechanical heart valve as I am 25 years old and have been told that a cadaver or animal replacement will deteriorate and I would need another surgery within 10 to 15 years. Just wondering if the valve regurgitation can be fixed at all through quitting smoking and exercise. though I'm sure the aorta will need to be replaced as I don't think you can shrink the heart once it has been stretched out to such a size. Just really scared and pulling on strings here.
 
Welcome aboard. Well smoking does raise your blood pressure and that doesnt help your situation. But I think it is highly unlikely that smoking has caused your problem. Nor will quitting smoking correct either of your problems. The only thing that can fix both your problems unfortunately is surgery. But thats is good news, because you can be totally fixed. By no means am I saying smoking is a non issue, it has likely sped up the deterioration of whats wrong. And its good to hear youve already quit, and I suggest NEVER picking it up again, EVER. Its normal to be scared, especially if you just recently got the news. It will take a bit to sink in, but let it sink in and dont ignore it or deny it. Your life will likely change some going forward, but look at it as a good thing. Youve found yourself in the right place, I suggest visiting here often and searching the forums to read as much as you can. Thats what I did, you will learn an awful lot about your situation and you will also find comfort in the members here who have gone through your exact situation. I just had the same surgery to replace my valve with a mechanical and had part of my aorta replaced. This all just happened for me in August of this year. Im still recovering but feeling very good and have a positive outlook on things. Its okay to be scared, but dont dwell on in and certainly dont blame yourself for your situation. Your smoking hasnt caused it, so dont let guilt play on your emotions. Focus on educating yourself about your situation and look ahead to the future, your young and you will overcome this.
 
bcreyes;n859324 said:
Just wondering if the valve regurgitation can be fixed at all through quitting smoking and exercise. though I'm sure the aorta will need to be replaced as I don't think you can shrink the heart once it has been stretched out to such a size. Just really scared and pulling on strings here.

As almost_hectic mentioned, you need surgery. Sooner rather than later to prevent further dilation to your left ventricle. I would go with an On-X Ascending Aortic prosthesis. You only want to go through the surgery once if you can help it. Given your age (and lifestyle choice to quit smoking), you will bounce back quick. Nothing to fear, only know you will be back better than ever.

onx-ascending-aortic-prosthesi-with-the-vascutek-gelweave-valsalva-graft.jpg
 
Hi bcreyes and welcome. You can find a lot of info and support from the folks on this forum.

Your smoking probably had little to do with your problem.......more likely it is due to a problem at birth (bicuspid valve) or by disease or infection. Mine was due to disease (rheumatic/scarlet fever) and I had a mechanical valve implanted when I was 31......now almost 80......so yours can be fixed and you will probably live a long and nearly normal life. I think your choice of a mechanical valve at your age makes a of sense. Spend some time looking thru the posts on this forum and ask any questions you have.......odds are several will have advice for you.

The advice to quit smoking is good advice since it will minimize other smoking problems down the road
 
I do indeed have a bicuspid aortic valve. The doctors told my parents when I was little that I had a murmur abd it wouldnt cause any problems, I guess they were wrong. My greatest concern is maintaining a healthy INR level. And the restrictions that come with being on blood thinners.
 
seems like a clear case for mechanical. You are so young, you will bounce back quickly. don't worry about the Coumadin, it will work out and just be smart and don't take foolish chances. In 4-6 weeks after surgery you will be up and back at not. I would quit smoking and exercise to try t get as strong as possible hearing into surgery. I upped my work outs heading into my surgery and really think it helped recovery. Good luck it really isn't as bad as people might tell you, they have good drugs for pain management.they will fix the valve and aneurysm all at once.

Not your fault here is ac link between bicuspids and aneurysms, it happens, it happened to me too and I was a non smoker in decent shape all my 49 years playing HS sports, college soccer and even in an over 40 adult league until they found my aneurysm.
 
ALLBETTERNOW!;n859334 said:
I would quit smoking and exercise to try t get as strong as possible hearing into surgery. I upped my work outs heading into my surgery and really think it helped recovery.

I would ask the advice of your doctors before jumping into working out prior to your surgery. I was on a regular exercise program and when they found my anyeurism they told me to stop. The fear being pushing myself too hard I could actually burst the anyeurism. Being without symptoms they felt I could easily not know I was in danger of over doing it. I wAs however advised by my surgeon that in the days and weeks prior to surgery that exercise even without danger can actually pose some problems in that strengthening muscle actually happens by the breaking down and subsequent healing of muscle fibers. He explained that process can tax your kidneys and that's bad for a patient going into surgery. He said I should just be sure I was gettin enough sleep and eating a healthy diet and staying well hydrated. Not just eating healthy foods but eliminating unhealthy foods. And he said to eat lots of proteins. That proteins will be very beneficial to healing post-op. Part of the thinking being how little nutrition you get while in the hospital due to a strong lack of appetite from anasthesia and pain meds.
 
almost_hectic;n859338 said:
I would ask the advice of your doctors before jumping into working out prior to your surgery. I was on a regular exercise program and when they found my anyeurism they told me to stop. The fear being pushing myself too hard I could actually burst the anyeurism. Being without symptoms they felt I could easily not know I was in danger of over doing it. I wAs however advised by my surgeon that in the days and weeks prior to surgery that exercise even without danger can actually pose some problems in that strengthening muscle actually happens by the breaking down and subsequent healing of muscle fibers. He explained that process can tax your kidneys and that's bad for a patient going into surgery. He said I should just be sure I was gettin enough sleep and eating a healthy diet and staying well hydrated. Not just eating healthy foods but eliminating unhealthy foods. And he said to eat lots of proteins. That proteins will be very beneficial to healing post-op. Part of the thinking being how little nutrition you get while in the hospital due to a strong lack of appetite from anasthesia and pain meds.

Absolutely. I had the benefit of supervised exercise in a cardio rehab program so I was closely monitored and they set the limits accordingly. Heavy lifting was out but resistance bands and adding incline and speed to the treadmill was free game it seemed. I never got past an easy jog at 8% incline
 
Hi

bcreyes;n859324 said:
... but I have decided on the mechanical heart valve as I am 25 years old and have been told that a cadaver or animal replacement will deteriorate and I would need another surgery within 10 to 15 years. Just wondering if the valve regurgitation can be fixed at all through quitting smoking and exercise. though I'm sure the aorta will need to be replaced as I don't think you can shrink the heart once it has been stretched out to such a size. Just really scared and pulling on strings here.

well I can understand being distressed and scared. I guess us all telling you not to worry won't really help, but just in case don't worry :)

Aortic Valve Replacement is as far as I know the most successful medical intervention we have. It has outstanding results and a good and long history of that. I agree with your assessment that a mechanical is your best choice. I strongly recommend against aiming for multiple surgeries. You open yourself up to more chances of errors each time, and more exposure to infections each time. If you could have one surgery and then just manage your INR that would be ideal. Just yesterday I was talking to a friend about the discussions here of how many people seem to talk themselves into multiple surgeries. She is a senior theater nurse and her reaction was - " what are they crazy? Avoid surgery if you at all can." Of course you can't (neither could I).

I had a homograft (from a dead person) valve put in at 28, it was replaced at 48. That valve was failing, but (lucky for me) an aneurysm had presented itself too and so I got 2 things fixed in the one surgery.

Back 20 years ago when I had the Homograft there was less known about all these things than there is today and, importantly, less capacity to well manage your INR. INR is a term used to determine the correct level of anticoagulant (some call it blood thinners) that you will be on after the surgery. Without a shadow of a doubt you can be very healthy exersize and do everything you do now (probably more) when on anticoagulation and managing yourself.

I have a blog where I dedicate a "search tag" to that topic.
http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com.au/search/label/INR

I also discuss other points in there. It lists things in reverse time order = my latest posts are first, but my older posts are sort of introductory.

Still this is a bit ahead of your needs right now.

So in my view (to summarise):
  • I think you're making the right choice
  • the suggestion for the On-X valve and aortic graft is a good one, but equally so too are ATS and St Jude ... they are all minor alterations of eachother, These are generations ahead of the older technology
  • Smoking had nothing to do with your condition, but giving up will be wise because not smoking will make healing better and reduce your issues in future
  • watch your diet, kill off as much sugar as you can and avoid diabetes .. that's a killer.
Best Wishes

:)
 
Smoking can directly damage your arteries but it wouldn't have caused your aneurysm. If your valve can't be repaired I would go with mechanical. You didn't say if you were a man or a woman. Just wondering because at your age if you're female and want to have children that could factor in making your choice. As others have said here it is fixable . I had mine fixed just 8 months ago and I feel great. I had my bicuspid valve fixed and the aneurysm replaced with a graft.
 
If your aorta has a substantial leak, back off any strenuous exercise, particularly cardio. The excess blood volume from the leaking valve (combined with blood filling from the mitral valve) will cause your left ventricle to dilate. Heavy cardio will only exacerbate the issue. With regard to the restrictions that come with blood thinners...what restrictions? I eat whatever I feel like. I even engage in some high impact activities without issue.
 
Hi
just saw this from MethodAir's post

bcreyes;n859333 said:
My greatest concern is maintaining a healthy INR level. And the restrictions that come with being on blood thinners.

then you have no concerns. I eat anything (just tucking into a 1/4 of a roast chicken with salad containing LOTS of spinach.The restrictions are in my experience and the observations just fantasy and imaginations told by "professionals" (who are usually not on warfarin and who have not actually validated these 'facts') as some sort of boogey man bed time story. I suspect that they like to hold on to these stories (told to them 25 years ago in training) like belief in a football team.

The only reliable story I've heard is from someone who drank half a gallon of Grapefruit juice a day for a week
 
Hi there, I'm a new member too and I have been through something similar. I'm 24 and although I've never smoked (except for trying cigarettes like once or twice just because), I suddenly found out last November that I had a very leaky valve and a severely dilated aortic valve and root. I was born with a bicuspid aortic valve, but since I was so young when they found it I was just told my heart had a "sticky valve" and I was fine. Since it never bothered me no one ever explained it to me (until my doctors very suddenly discovered I needed surgery, that is).

Like yours, my parents were told it wouldn't bother me until my mid-forties or so, if ever. And for a lot of people with BAVD, that's true. Lucky you and me, eh? We turned out to be special. Obviously I can't tell you what will happen or what you should do, but I can tell you how it's all gone for me so far, speaking from the post-surgery side of things.

As far as choosing a valve, most of all I wanted to avoid needing heart surgery for the rest of my life if possible, so in the end I chose to go mechanical. I got the On-X valve, which so far has performed exactly as it should. Plus, the INR range (and thus, the dosage level) is lower than for other valves -- my surgeon told me, very specifically, that my range is 2.0-2.5. I've also been told by countless nurses that the ticking noise my valve makes is much quieter than the other mechanical valves they've heard, like the St. Jude's valve.

I'll be honest -- I don't regret my decision so far, because even though my surgery went well enough I'd rather not repeat the experience if I can help it -- but the INR thing has been a bit irritating. I know some people get the hang of it after a while and sail along with stable INRs for long periods of time without issue. I have not been quite so lucky; mine likes to lull me into a false sense of security for a few weeks, only to drop back to 1.7-1.9 and aggravate me all over again when I'm least expecting it. I'm still learning as far as diet and all that goes, though, so it's still likely I'll stabilize in the near future. I'm told it can take a long time for your body (and your lifestyle) to be properly adjusted to life on coumadin.

Whatever valve you choose, do your best to chill out as much as you can while you wait for surgery. I know it's so much easier said than done, but try to relax as much as you can! I recommend LIGHT walking and LIGHT yoga -- both are great for your heart and for stress relief without being too strenuous -- and don't push yourself. It's okay to be scared and to freak out a little -- goodness knows I did -- but know that your heart CAN be fixed and you CAN recover from this and live a full and healthy life. I and many others on this forum are walking, talking proof of it. :)

Given the similarity of our situations, I'd like to add that you can feel free to PM me if you want to talk in more detail about BAVD, valve choices, surgery, etc. I'm no health professional by any means but I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have to the best of my abilities.
 
Sorry but the only solution is surgery - it will fix you. Strenuous exercise with a large aneurysm is not a good idea. I would take it easy for now and follow any limitations your Dr suggests.

Re. smoking. A quote attributed to Mark Twain goes: "Quitting smoking is easy, I've done it hundreds of times". I did it at least a dozen times myself. A life event such as this can really help motivate you to quit for good. I quit years ago when my Dad was diagnosed with lung cancer - and he wasn't even a smoker. To see what he went through and knowing that I was deliberately putting myself at risk for that really gave me the incentive to stop. You will get through this surgery (and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be), but to go through this through no fault of your own, makes it harder to deliberately put yourself at risk for health issues - at least that's how I looked at it. And when I quit, I looked at the thought of picking up one cigarette as picking up hundreds of them. You really can't have just one. Good luck!
 
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