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Hi, new guy on the block ?

Some back ground info. Current age 66. Had an ?On-X? mechanical aortic valve replacement in 2004 at age 62 requiring Coumadin (Warfarin) medication. My INR range is 2.5 to 3.5

The On-X aortic replacement valve I have is made from the following materials: pyrolytic carbon ? small amount of tungsten in the leaflets ? titanium sewing cuff rings ? and ? teflon sewing cuff . This valve is safe to undergo a MRI at a 4.7 testla strength. A normal MRI is generally a 1.5 testla strength.

Right after my valve surgery I was asked to participate in a Coumadin ?self-testing at home? program sponsored by On-X and the Sentara, Norfolk, Virginia Hospital with QAS collecting and processing the data. The program was conducted for a two year period with a microcoagulation tester and testing ProTime cuvettes ? the cuvette was a self-contained reaction cell constructed of molded plastic ? provided at no charge to me.

The test cuvette had five micro-channels which contained the dried reagents required to perform triplicate testing of my blood and and two control levels. In other words my blood sample entered 3 channels and the other two sealed channels contained control fluids. The down side of this system was the test cuvette required refrigeration. We do a lot of traveling.

My blood was pumped back and forth through three restriction channels, within the cuvette, until a clot formed obstructing the channels and slowing the flow of blood which was detected by the microcoagulation tester. I would perform this test once a week and phone the results into a QAS computer.

At the same time I was in the self-testing program I was also being tested, at least once a month, by my cardiovascular doctor?s ?Coumadin clinic? that was not part of the QAS self-testing program. Over a two year period the largest test difference between the two locations was about a plus or minus .4 reading.

Since my On-X self-testing program ended about two years ago I have been trying to start-up another one with my own doctor. My doctor finally setup a program with Phillips and contact with them has resulted in the following ? Phillips want $188 per month to cover the rental cost of the ?Coag-Chek XS? tester and 4 test strips (one per week). Of the $188 cost, 80 % will be covered by Medicare, zero covered by Cigna my supplemental insurance, and the remaining 20 % coming out of my pocket ($38 per month).

Maybe I?m spoiled but I don?t want to pay anything. Have not contacted anyone else besides Phillips. Anyone have additional info on costs from others sources ??

Dan.
 
This is, unfortunately, how Phillips works and I said: NO, thanks and contacted QAS. My insurance paid 90 percent and I paid ten percent since I had met the deductibe which was around $190 for the machine and 24 test strips.
 
Thanks for the feedback Eva.

Understand your insurance pays 90% and you pay 10%. Is your cost $190 per month some of which is for the tester rental and the balance for the test strips? How many test strips is your average usage per month? It seems 24 test strips could last up to 6 months if you are stable. Don't understand your billing period or cost breakdown.

Is QAS the least cost approach?

Dan.
 
Hi Dan,
I use the service from Phillips but my insurance covers the whole thing. The person you should ask on the forum goes by the name of OLEFIN - I believe he went through Medicare for his tester. You can search for him in the Members List (at the top of the page) and send him a PM.
 
Hi Dan and Welcome! I am not self testing yet, but my machine is due to come anytime now!!! I went thru QAS, who consulted with an "in network" provider (Edge Medical) and I was approved for a Coaguchek XS! I am so thrilled. I paid for 20 percent, insurance paid 80, and every three months my supplies copay is $33. For me, this sure beats the coumadin clinic at $25 a week.
Best wishes and stick around, good people here!
 
Thanks for the feedback Eva.

Understand your insurance pays 90% and you pay 10%. Is your cost $190 per month some of which is for the tester rental and the balance for the test strips? How many test strips is your average usage per month? It seems 24 test strips could last up to 6 months if you are stable. Don't understand your billing period or cost breakdown.

Is QAS the least cost approach?

Dan.



Sorry, Dan, for the delay in responding. Thanks, Bina, for coming to the rescue.

I bought my machine, Dan, from QAS and the $190 was what I paid out of my pocket for the price of the machine plus 26 testers. From now on, I shall pay for the testers only and I test once a week and depending on when I order them and whether I met the deductible or not, my payment will be decided on that. I just ordered new strips and will let you know how much it will cost me.

I chose QAS since they have a contract with my insurance.
:)
 
Eva,

Thanks for your costing info. Looking forward to info on your test strip costs.

I'm trying to figure out what my initial costs and on-going costs will be.

Dan.
 
"Cris N" .. and .. "COLLEEN S",

Thank you both for answering. "Cris", I will send "OLEFIN" a PM and see what develops. "Colleen", I will file away you cost info for future reference.

Dan.
 
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the forum. I got you message but I'll answer it here.

I have Medicare and Blood Cross insurance. I recently started home testing after I met Ross on another forum. He informed me that Medicare was covering the cost.

Sounds like you may have the wrong insurance.
I'm 74 and had Blue Cross insurance ever since I been on Medicare. They are suppose to pay the 20% that Medicare doesn't pay. So far they have always done that with never a question.

On the advice of Ross I went with QAS. I downloaded the forums from QAS, one for me to fill out and one for my Cardiologist. I filled out mine and faxed it QAS. I partially filled out the doctors form and took it to his office for his signature.. his office faxed it to QAS that day.

Within one week QAS called and said I had been approved for weekly testing, with NO cost to me.

A trainer paid for by QAS delivered my INRatio2 meter, box of test strips and all needed supplies to my home. She watched me do a test and gave instructions. I had previewed the online training so I pretty well knew the procedure.

Let me tell you, QAS are the greatest to deal with. Once I had a problem where I didn't believe the meter. It was after office hours but I called QAS. Within minutes a QAS person returned my call. She instructed me to do more test and not be concerned with using more test strips. With her help, we proved the meter was correct and that my INR was actually that high. The next day I received an extra box of test strips and lancets. They were sent overnight express. Test strips and lancets will normally be sent to me automatically.

They even call me if I miss testing. :D
I don't home test on one week a month for my Cardiologist wants me to lab test at his office. I'm hoping on my next 6 month appointment to convince him to go for full home testing. We'll see how that goes. ;)

Hope this has been some help... Good Luck!
 
I second what Dayton says..

I second what Dayton says..

I have Humana Gold Plus which is a HMO Medicare Health Plan....one of those Medicare Advantage plans. Insurance plans are 'territorial', so don't know what a similiar one would be called in your county and state. Getting a INR machine was going to be a real test to just how good this new insurance is that I have.

I called QAS and got Brandi Thrailkill who was loads of help and never gave up...(our Nancy would be proud of her). I downloaded the Patient Information Sheet from QAS website, filled it out and faxed it to Brandi at 407-902-2780. She took it from there and between Brandi and the billing manager at my cardio, they got it done. I communicated with Humana though e-mails only since I wanted the written word should anything come up later. QAS is out-of-network with my insurance, but it all got done.

My understanding is that the INR machine is 'on loan' to me from QAS. This is all through Medicare and right now, I'm required to test weekly, call in my results to a QAS telephone number (all automated) and QAS connects me with my cardio's office if/when I'm over/under my 2.0-3.0 reading.

Since I've had CoaguChek machines over the years, I got the new CoaguChek XS and it's great -- so very small. I don't know what my insurance ended up paying since I haven't gotten any bills yet.

Goodluck and just give Brandi @ QAS a call if you chose to go that route.
 
"olefin" ... "ShezaGirlie" .. and .. "catwoman" .....

Well three Texans can't be wrong. I will check out the QAS WEBsite and follow your advice. I'll download the specific forms and then contact my doctor. My doctor has already agreed to work with QAS. Thank you all for the assistance.

Just for the record my wife and I are "Winter Texans". We spent last winter in a camp ground in Donna, TX (Rio Grande Valley) and had a great time.

Any additional info from one and all will be appreciated.

Dan.
 
"olefin" ... "ShezaGirlie" .. and .. "catwoman" .....

Well three Texans can't be wrong. I will check out the QAS WEBsite and follow your advice. I'll download the specific forms and then contact my doctor. My doctor has already agreed to work with QAS. Thank you all for the assistance.

Just for the record my wife and I are "Winter Texans". We spent last winter in a camp ground in Donna, TX (Rio Grande Valley) and had a great time.

Any additional info from one and all will be appreciated.

Dan.

Dan:
Years ago, I was at a cat show not far from Donna -- in Harlingen -- and there were a lot of "winter Texans" who came as spectators to the show. We sent across the border on Saturday night for dinner at a wonderful restaurant -- was a Continental menu, not Tex-Mex or Mexican.
 
'catwoman" ...

We did visit Mexico several times with intentions to purchase specific things. But, that border area is so depressing .. the people are so poor .. we end up giving our money away to mothers and grandmothers with children who squat on the streets. We are sure some of it is "organized" but the kids must end up with some of the money. It's hard to walk pass them and do nothing.

Anyhow, getting back to the key subject. Phillips called me again today and wanted to sign me up for "home testing". Their offer is still the same. They want $188 per month, every month, to rent their Coaguchek "XS" tester. Included in the monthly cost is a three months supply of 12 each, test strips. One test strip per week. When I run out of test strips I call them and they send me another 12 test strips. If I use up the 12 test strips to quickly, say 6 weeks, they may have to charge extra, but they say .. "of course this rarely happens".

I'm currently talking with QAS ...

Dan.
 
Phillips called me again today and wanted to sign me up for "home testing". Their offer is still the same. They want $188 per month, every month, to rent their Coaguchek "XS" tester.

Dan,
As for as pricing, the only thing QAS told me was that it wasn't going to cost me a cent for weekly testing. That was all I wanted to hear. ;)
 
"Ross" ... Yes, I have Medicare and they will pay 80%.

"Dayton" ... I hoping I will not have to contribute either. With the Phillips plan I would have to make up the 20% balance. Don't have an answer on the QAS plan yet.

Dan.
 

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