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Emma

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Hi all,
You can sooooo tell when Chloe has her cardiac appointment coming up cos I get full of questions again. lol
Chloe is doing really well and so I'm not really worried about it at all - just starting to think more deeply about it I suppose.

Anyway, the question this time has been discussed before I know - I just read the thread on it, but most answers referred to aortic valves rather than mitral.
Chloe has a 25mm On-X valve and I'm sure the surgeon told me it was small adult size when he did it?
I wondered if 25mm is actually adult size and if any of you have a 25mm mitral too, or smaller?????
I know mitral's are bigger than aortic but 25mm still sounds quite small to me. The smallest one On-X make is a 23mm as far as I can tell from their site so would that be a paed. one or is that small adult too??

Thanks for any help you can give
Love Emma
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Emma:

In 1991 (34 years old), I had a porcine valve put in (it was 32 mm). This valve lasted until 2003 when I went through the procedure again and chose another porcine valve (it is 31 mm).

I am enjoying life and being alive - Dave
 
Thanks for that! I have since emailed the makers of on-x as i have spoken to a very helpful lady there several times before. She replied and explained a lot more about the valves and their sizes than i already knew. I would copy it all directly to here but not sure if i'm allowed? If you'd like to see what see told me, i can email it privately to you.

Emma
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Never thought of that!

Never thought of that!

Hi there Emma, happy to hear that your daughter's doing fine and I hope everything goes well on the day of her appointment. As for the size of a mitral valve, well, I've had mine replaced three times as you must know by now (all tissue), and will be having a fourth operation one of these days. Anyway, I've never thought of sizes and as a matter of fact, I don't know what size mine is. But I must admit that you got me curious now and yes, I would like you to Email what you've found out about it. Thanks for offering! Please, send it to [email protected].
Débora :)
 
Debora

Debora

Debora:

I was not aware of anyone who had chose a tissue valve for the 3rd procedure. I had my first surgery whenI was 34 in 1991 (porcine valve), then when I was 46 (porcine valve), and while I hope the current valve lasts a long time, I expect to make the decision on valve type again.

I would very much like to hear about your experiences, and the longevity of the valves.

With your persmission, I would enjoy an e-mail conversation with you.

Regards, Dave Darsch
 
Emma

Emma

I am so glad that things are well with Chloe, and that they continue to be so.

Dave
 
That would be nice.

That would be nice.

Hi Dave, I love making friends with the VR members and change experiences and ideas. I would be very happy to correspond with you as well as chat on yahoo mesenger in case you have it too and enjoy chatting. My E-mail address is [email protected], and my yahoo ID is deboraginastewart1. I'll keep on posting in here to so that others can also benefit from any information they might find useful to them. Hope to hear from you.
Débora from Brazil :)
 
Debora:

Wow, I did not think there were many of us who chose to have a biological valve more than one time. There is another member from Canada (Kevin) who has chosen to do so twice (like myself).

As I have stated many times, the choice of the valve is a very personal decision and relates to the desires of the individual at that time in their life. What was the thinking that you had surrounding the decision each of the three times? I would love to know.

Dave
 
Heart surgeries

Heart surgeries

Hi Dave, here's what I can tell you about my heart surgeries. I hope it helps you understand why I've chosen to go tissue once again.

My story begins in 1973 and has not yet run its lengthy course. However, I can confidently say that although the situation scares me at times, I also find it fascinating and it greatly arouses my curiosity. Therefore, there are times when I wish to become ensconced in the whole subject of cardiology, especially the mitral valve. Despite not having access to all the pertinent information concerning my surgeries (as Brazilian doctors, especially the older ones, are not always willing to share everything they know with their patients) I will try to outline as much as I can.

I was an irritable child who tended to get worked up over the least little thing, flying off the handle frequently. When I was seven, I began to feel a lot of pain in my joints and to cough ceaselessly. At the time, doctors took this to be growing pains and a persistent flu. In those days, people did not have as much access to information on how to deal with this or how to recognise certain symptoms and, as was normal at the time, the situation was not taken so seriously. Then I got worse and went to see my paediatrician, who in turn recommended that my mother should take me to a cardiologist (Dr. Siloá Singer Bonescki). She had been a member of Professor Dr. Eurícledes Jesus Zerbini?s team at the Beneficiencia Portuguesa Hospital in São Paulo, so I was in good hands. She diagnosed my condition as rheumatic fever, already compromising my mitral valve. I remember that I spent the next two years in bed and being put on a salt free diet owing to the retention of liquid in my system. At this point, my heart was enlarged and I was on fifteen types of medicine, none of which had any positive effect. Therefore, I was sent to São Paulo to see Dr. Zerbini himself who was very straightforward. After running a battery of tests, he informed me that my chances of survival were minimal even with surgery, but without surgery I would be unlikely to last two months. Clinically, I was in a terrible state, weighing at age ten only 20kg (about 45 lb). I had surgery on 14 August, 1975 following a month in hospital. During surgery, a lesion was found on my tricuspid valve, which was promptly corrected. Nevertheless, setbacks were inevitable but with no permanent damage except an enlarged left atrium. My heart stopped beating twice and my kidneys failed for eighteen hours. I only came round in the ICU after two days and remained there for three more until I could be transferred to my room where I was carefully looked after for another month before being discharged. As mine was the first successful case of its kind in the country, people who didn?t even know me came to visit, and doctors from other teams came to have a look at the "Zerbini case" that was being talked about.

As time went by, the duramater valve that had saved my life for so many years began to show signs of failure, and on 15 April, 1980 I had surgery once again. This time, everything went well as the surgery had now become somewhat more routine and another dura-mater valve was put in. Once again, I went back to my normal life and my studies which had been seriously disrupted owing to all my health problems. I started to learn English and in 1983 when I began to correspond with pen pals from around the world through the Queen Fan Club, I met Robert from Scotland, who has now been my husband for twenty years.


In 1995 following an echocardiogram, I was told by my cardiologist Dr. Ademar Moraes de Souza that I would have to have my valve replaced once again. We had planned to go to Scotland early in January, 1996, but that trip had to be cancelled. I was very upset about the whole thing as it interrupted other plans. I was trying to get pregnant with my first child, and this factor affected my choice of valve and I opted for a biological one (pericardium bovine bioprosthetic cardioprothesis valve No 29). On 19 December, 1995 I was back in the operating theatre in the hands of Dr. Francisco Diniz Costa who headed the team at Santa Casa de Misericórdia hospital in Curitiba.

Well, I never got back to Scotland after that, but I did get pregnant and my daughter Bruna was delivered by C-section on 28 February, 1997.Well, it's been well over a year now since I got the news that my mitral valve is slowly thickening again and the surgeon told me last year that I should still have another couple of years with this valve providing there's no sudden rupture, which was what happened last time. You've asked me why I've always gone tissue, but I was actually only given a choice last time. For the other two it was my mum who took care of everything since I was far too young to make any decisions. As a matter of fact, I don't even know if she had a choice at all, we've never really discussed it, but I'll ask her about it out of curiosity anyway. I think the main reason why I've opted for another tissue valve is because despite the risks of reoperations, I've never really had to change my life style much and as well as that, I'd rather avoid the use of coumadim for as long as I can. It's just me, I suppose. Like everyone, I have my ups and downs and grab onto anything that helps me feel better or brings me hope. This is the advice I can give to anyone in a similar situation. Work with your doctor and nurses, especially while you?re in the ICU. They are not to blame for your condition and can be of great help in your recovery. You can be sure of one thing though, VR was one of the best things that's ever happened to me, and thanks to this site, I've learned so much about hearts and I've finally got the answers to many of the questions doctors have never fully answered.

Débora :)
 
Bravo, Deborah! :)
Your story is very positive and upbeat! I hope you live many years with the valve you now have, and then many, many, many years with the one that you chose to replace it.
Mary
 
Hi Mary, I'm happy you've read it too and although there were setbacks, even in those days the doctors managed to keep everything under control in the end. I too hope this valve lasts a little longer. Now that the time for your surgery's drawing near, I want to ask you to remain as calm as you can in order to make sure your immune system remains intact, I mean, when we get depressed over something, our bodies end up suffering the consequences. I'm sure everything will go well for you too. What kind of surgery are you having anyway? Take care and think positively.
Débora :)
 
A little of my history for you

A little of my history for you

Deborah:

I was told in November 1991 that my valve had severe regurgitation, but the surgeon was very confident that he could repair the valve. He said somewhat in jest, "you better chose the type of valve you want, in case I cannot repair yours - because as you know, you can't make the choice if necessary during the surgery". Well, as you know, he was not able to repair it, and my valve choice of a porcine was inserted. As with you, I made the choice at that time to avoid cumadin.

I really was not certain what I would do for the next surgery, but in 1991, I thought I would do a mechanical. Well, in 2003, when I was down in Poco Fundo Brasil (helping some coffee cooperatives), my valve deteriorated significantly, and I flew back to the States to have the procedure.

I had changed my mind and it was clear to me that I wanted to have a bovine valve, but this particular surgeon only did porcine. Do we put in a Medtronic Hancock II Porcine Mitral Valve (T51031H) size 31mm.

What made you chose the bovine over the porcine. And do I understand correctly that it has started to thicken after 10 years?

Enjoy life, Dave
 
Valve choice

Valve choice

Hi again, Dave. That was an interesting story too. So, you've been to Brazil!? I was wondering if the place you've mentioned isn't Passo Fundo which's in the state of Rio Grande do Sul? I've never heard of Poço Fundo, but there are so many other places here I've never heard of either. Anyway, did you like it here? As to the bovine valve, wel, all he asked me was if I wanted to go tissue or mech, and I wasn't aware of any further details. I guess they were the ones he dealt with. I'd had it for just over 8 years when I learned that it had started to deteriorate, but I've heard that pregnancy could've speeded things up a bit. I can't really explain why, but I feel comfortable with my decision to get another tissue valve put in when the time comes, but I suppose one of the reasons must be because I feel like I can really trust my surgeon and as well as that, I think there's more to it in a heart operation than just the valve itself. I mean, the patient's condition in general and of course, luck does play a part in the whole thing too.
Bye for now,
Débora :)
 
love my On-X

love my On-X

EmmaCornish said:
Thanks for that! I have since emailed the makers of on-x as i have spoken to a very helpful lady there several times before. She replied and explained a lot more about the valves and their sizes than i already knew. I would copy it all directly to here but not sure if i'm allowed? If you'd like to see what see told me, i can email it privately to you.

Emma
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Emma-

Don't know what size mine is, but it's an On-X and I could not be happier! it replaced my mitral valve. I NEVER hear it and even the doctors say it sounds like a natural valve.

Wendy
 
Good morning Debora

Good morning Debora

Yes, I flew into Rio and we drove northeast through a town called Varghinia (not sure of the spelling) and went to the coffee cooperative in Poco Fundo, then to the Ipanema Coffee Plantation. It was an experience seeing the lower living conditions at the Cooperative, versus the elegance of the Plantation - but I guess that is the way life is

With respect to the valve, your perspective is correct, it is part of a process with the surgeon, the operating room staff, and then the entire recovery team - you have had a great day if they have had a great day.

I hope the process of degeneration of the valve is a very slow process, and you get a few more years of use with the current bovine
 
st. jude medical mitral valve

st. jude medical mitral valve

I'm new to the group here. I had a St. Jude Mitral Valve implanted back in 1981. Believe it or not, I had to sign a medical release because this valve had not yet been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. The surgeon said that this would be the best for me at that time. I guess he was right as I'm almost 53 now and still doing good. My question is: Does anyone know any data on the lifespan of the mechanical valves. I know the material that they're made of should last longer than my lifetime but I've read some things about the cuff wearing out. Any info would be appreciated.
 
There isn't necessarily an upper limit on a mechanical valve's useful life. It depends a lot on your personal body chemistry.

Generally, I believe the "cuff wearing out" is really a euphemism for the tissue the cuff is sewn into wearing out. Some people have myxomatous (fibrous or weakened) tissue as a part of their syndrome. That would usually be a person with a bicuspid aortic valve, radiation treatment history, or previous bacterial endocarditis, although some mitral prolapses are considered myxomatous tissue.

Presumably, you are getting your annual echo. If you were getting bypass leakage, they would certainly have told you. It normaly takes some time for a leak to get bad enough to be a problem. If there are no perivalvular blockages or narrowing, tissue growth on the valve, or evidence of underlying bloodclots, you are still AOK, and have no reason to believe that you won't remain so for the forseeable future.

Best wishes,
 
So do I!

So do I!

How have you been Dave? I've just seen you're from Spain which means English's also a second language to you as much as it is for me? Or I am wrong? Can you understand Portuguese at all? I'll probably be seeing my cardio within a couple of weeks to see how things are with my valve and I really hope it's still working fine. Are you having a good summer over there? We're just coming into winter but the weather has been nice on most days even though it can get quite cold in the early hours of the morning and late afternoon. The temperatures have been around 25 degreesC. Bye for now,
Débora :)
 
EmmaCornish said:
Thanks for that! I have since emailed the makers of on-x as i have spoken to a very helpful lady there several times before. She replied and explained a lot more about the valves and their sizes than i already knew. I would copy it all directly to here but not sure if i'm allowed? If you'd like to see what see told me, i can email it privately to you.

Emma
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Emma I would love the info you have gathered on the various sizes if you would be so kind. Thanks Laurie
 
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