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Ross

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Our fearless Government is going to ream us again. January 1st, our medicare premiums will go up 17% from $66.60 to $78.20. You just know the cost of living increase they give us will only be most likely 3% or lower. This is just the beginning of some real hard times ahead. The new package is not going to help us. It's going to kill us!
 
Ross, be careful what you ask for. . .

Ross, be careful what you ask for. . .

Well, you've been saying in the sex thread that you wanted it! :D
 
screwed?

screwed?

Ross I realize that you are disabled and on a fixed income. It is a tough "pill" to swallow.
Like all employees I pay a hefty tax to Medicare in addition to Social Swcurity.
With the exception of the years of "managed care" health care costs have been increasing at double digit rates each year.
I am happy to live in a country that has the such a great healthcare system with ever advancing technology. If I didn't live in a country like the US, I would probably be in end stage of CHF right now.
Right now I am fortunate to have an employer who provides me medical coverage. I pay $310 month and that is with the employer paying the other 80% of the premium. My last employer shelled out $150,000 + for my AVR, plus missing over 8 weeks of work.
Every day, I give thanks to The Lord for life saving surgery and continued access to the world's most advanced medical system.
 
Jim while I appreciate where your coming from, you have to realize exactly what all this means for you when it's your turn to be on it. Every year, they give a teenie tiny raise and turn around and take twice that or more away. Yes I realize we could be in some country that doesn't have these benefits, but we are not, we are here. We all worked and payed into this to collect it. No one gets it that hasn't worked for it except on a very limited and highly strict guideline. While inflation goes up a ridiculous percentage amount, our incomes drop even further into the abyss.

I encourage everyone to watch what happens next. I think your about to see the complete disappearance of Medicare as we know it in just a few short years.
 
WASHINGTON ? Medicare premiums for doctor visits will rise 17 percent next year, the Bush administration said Friday. The $11.60-a-month increase is the largest in the program?s 40-year-history.

Monthly payments for Part B of the government health-care program for older and disabled Americans ? doctor visits and most other nonhospital expenses ? will jump to $78.20 from $66.60.

The premiums are updated annually under a formula set by law. The federal government picks up about 75 percent of the cost of Part B benefits and beneficiaries pay the rest.

The increase reflects rapidly rising health costs and last year?s Medicare overhaul, said Dr. Mark McClellan, administrator of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. For example, the law blocked a planned 4.5 percent cut in Medicare payments to physicians and replaced it with a 1.5 percent increase.

The administration, seeking political advantage among older voters, has tried to depict the Medicare law, with its first-ever prescription drug benefit, as a boon to seniors.

?The new premiums reflect an enhanced Medicare that is providing seniors and people with disabilities with strengthened access to physician services and new preventive benefits,? McClellan said.

But Democrats and other critics have derided the law as a giveaway to insurers, drug makers and medical providers.

?George Bush is presiding over a Medicare system that is socking seniors with the largest premium hike in the program?s forty year history,? said Phil Singer, spokesman for Democrat John Kerry?s presidential campaign.

The timing of the release ? the day following the Republican convention, just before the Labor Day weekend and with a hurricane bearing down on Florida and its nearly 3 million Medicare recipients ? also drew criticism Friday.

?This is a cynical attempt to bury bad news by leaking it out when you hope no one is watching,? said Rep. Fortney ?Pete? Stark, D-Calif. ?This administration has had four years to improve Medicare and instead have made it worse. Today?s news reflects the reality, not rhetoric, of this administration?s bad record on Medicare.?

McClellan denied any effort to coordinate the release with events. ?We?re getting these numbers out as soon as we can,? he said.

Premiums have been increasing at an accelerating pace in recent years, rising 13.5 percent in 2004 and 8.7 percent last year.

In addition, the deductible for Part B services will rise $10 next year, to $110, another change mandated by the Medicare law.

About 93 percent of Medicare?s 41.8 million beneficiaries are enrolled in Part B, which helps pay for physician services, hospital outpatient care, durable medical equipment and other services, including some home health care.

McClellan said new preventive health services that Medicare will begin covering in 2005, including a physical for those who become eligible for Medicare and screening for diabetes, will help save money for beneficiaries.

The 4.6 million people in Medicare managed care could see their out-of-pocket expenses decline next year, he said.

?On net, Medicare beneficiaries are saving money,? McClellan said.

The government also said the Part A portion of Medicare that pays for hospital stays, skilled nursing facilities and some home health care also will see an increase in the deductible, which will rise $36 to $912 next year. It is a Medicare recipient?s only cost for up to 60 days of inpatient hospital care.

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Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services:

www.cms.hhs.gov
 
Ross, last year the increase was the largest in the history of Medicare - does it seem there is a trend going on here???? Medicare is much appreciated. I was without medical insurance for about 18 years because I could not afford to buy it. I prayed every day that I would not get sick. I just made it to Medicare age and had heart surgery. Lucky me!

Those of you who are able to earn retirement funds, have health care from your employer that you can afford should realize that there are those of us who do not have what you have. It is not easy to live on fixed incomes, buy medical supplies, pay your home expenses, buy food, and still live fairly comfortably. It is not a situation that is chosen - generally. I am afraid that many of you will experience the same eventually.

Right on, Ross, my heart buddy.
 
In my own circumstance at this years rate, this is how dismal it is.

9384.00
-804.00 Medicare Parts A and B
-720.00 Medicare plus choice HMO
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7860.00 Actual benefit amount after the above deductions.
take away from this, durable medical equipment co pays, office visit co pays, drugs and other misc charges, and I'm reduced to what $550-$600 a month to survive. Can anyone survive on this amount? Would it pay your bills, provide food and other necessities?

Time for a reality check here folks. This is seriously going to affect you all at some point in time.
 
Ross,
My mom has been there for many years. No, it's not enough for her to live on, so all the kids have been kicking in the extra amount for some time.

We are caught in a squeeze between helping my mom and still raising our children. We have two in college, and we also try and help pay extras for our granddaughter. Her folks are swamped with daycare expenses as they both try to work. They have NO HEALTH INSURANCE!

I think the bottom line here is many of us are living on different incomes, but we are also living with graduated expenses that bring us to a level playing field. We're all in this together.

I have always said that I try to help anyone I can, when I'm able, so when my time comes, someone else might help me. I kind of compare it to being survivors of a ship wreck; I'll swim awhile and try to keep someone else afloat, then when I tire, maybe someone else will swim for us both.

Of course, I wish we hadn't been in the shipwreck in the first place, but that seems to be life! Probably our best recourse is at the voting booth in November.
 
Bryan my biggest gripe is that not one thing is being done to get the costs under control. Not one thing! It's never going to get better if something isn't done to put a stop to the nonsense. In case some didn't notice, we are in a recession. Why hit the lowest incomes of all with the largest increase in history at a time like this? Everyone has a very rude awakening coming when this new plan is put in place. I've been saying it since it passed and now, it's starting.
 
The harsh reality is that in a nation as rich as ours there is no excuse whatsoever for someone to be in Ross's position financially while, at the same time, tax breaks are time and again handed out to the wealthy. We can and should do a better job of caring for those among us that exist on the fringes of our society. Our sports stars make millions while teachers in many areas barely survive. Haliburton's executives live well, while in the inner city and in many rural areas children go to bed hungry and cold. And we pour millions into Iraq but cannot help but increase medicare costs.
 
Ross

Ross

The government has done this for many years now. Why do you think that with having medicare, you still have to pay the 20% of your medical bills after the government pays the 80% and some SS reciepents have to eat cat and dog food. My mother made not enough to live on her own, so we lived with her so she could live on ther own and eat balanced meals. Not everyone is lucky to have savings when living paycheck to paycheck and get disabled. I feel for everyone who sole income is SS disability and trying to live on their own. But the cost of living increase is so small, it goes to he payment of medicare. So you have not a real increase of much of anything to live on. This has been this way for many years. I wish there would be someone who would change all this mess.

Caroline
09-13-01
Aortic valve replacement
st. Jude's valve
 
You know it's interesting...I see so much political "debate" going on at a feverish pace everywhere I look, but only half of all eligible voters turn out to vote in our presidential elections (51% in 2000). The last time the turnout was 60% or more was in 1964. IMHO, it sure seems like more than 50% of the people I know have strong opinions on one side or the other. :confused:

http://www.fec.gov/pages/2000turnout/reg&to00.htm

http://www.fec.gov/elections.html

We live in a democracy.

If one is 18 years of age, is a citizen of the USA and is not a convicted felon they have the right to vote.

The presidential election (as well as some senate and congressional seats) will take place November 2nd.

If you don't vote, don't complain.

*Not insinuating that anyone here has not voted in the past (although according to statistics 1/2 of us didn't :eek: :D).

Sorry...I had to get that off of my chest. It just seems that there is no place where I can go anymore without running into political discussions. I guess that's all part of being a democracy. That and technology allowing more people to share their views (whether you want to hear them or not :D). Funny thing is that I formed my own values long ago, and it doesn't matter if someone screams at me 24/7/365 they aren't going to sway how I will vote on Nov 2nd. :D
 
Well this thread wasn't meant to be a political debate, but a complaint as to what we on S.S. go through every year and to let those that it does affect know what is coming. I guess it's next to impossible not to shed light on a political side since it's Government funded, but the bottom line in the whole mess is still simply this.

1. We on S.S. are constantly being hammered into the ground.
2. This will affect each and every one of you at some point in your life, so take an active interest in it now, before it's too late and your living the nightmare.
3. Nothing, zero, zilch, notta, has been done to put a stop or slow down on the continuing rising costs of health care. Not one thing. This affects everyone regardless of your livelihood. This needs to be addressed though I don't have a clue as to how. It's so far out of hand now.
 
I think it comes down to whether we as a nation are willing to accept a lower standard of health care in order to make it accessible to everyone. If you look at our friends to our north or across the pond I bet they can verify that the better off one is the better health care they can afford to receive, by supplementing the basic national health care coverage they receive with their own funds.

I agree that SS and Medicare need major overhauls. The costs going out simply exceed the tax revenue coming in. Something has to give. Unfortunately the ones forced to "give" are in the worst position to do so.
 
My friend Ross

My friend Ross

Ross some how when I wrote myinital post on Medicare's hsarp increase, I knew it would not come out as I meant. I have come close twice in the past year to apply for disability. I TRULY appreciate where you are coming from. Especially on a fixed income. Money is short for me too. There are days I make a choice that I need to skip buying coffee and lunch just so I have the toll money on the Maine turnpike. I have dealt with the health care crisis for 25 years. I get on my knees and thank GOD that technology a top surgeon gave me my new high quality life and that was my point,..lucky to be an American with the best health care and some good degree of choice . Now after all these years I work in a hospital and I see there is NO easy fix (no surprise). There are so may factors pulling at each other with no team problem solving,God knows a Government run system is not the answer.Look at our advanced contries like UK, Germany, Canada. WHile their basic health is great - good luck find a specialisit and they don't have the choice and technolgy we have. Here in the US you have the docs, fighting for more money, the hospital costs soar, nurses and clinical people are in short supply, regulation drags us down like you wouldn't beleive, insurance companies are raking in profits and the providers are more than happy just to pass double digit annual cost to the employer and gov?t.
Ross I am 8 years away from Medicare and as you say I WILL will find out what is like. I'm not rich. Ross my post was only to say despite all our problems, we are way ahead of contries like Haiti and other third world countries where I would be dead by now.
I have given this whole problem my mental, patient perspective and business priority for 25 years working from some large employers.
I total respect that you will be squeezed and I feel badly. God bless you . You are the back-board of this board and I truly admire you.

My best,
Jim
 
You know Jim, I've sat and thought as hard as I can to think of a way to stop the process. I cannot come up with one thing that be of an significance to even remotely slow the cost down. There are far too many people wanting nothing but pure profit. It's as if they've all forgotten about why they do what they do and the name of the game is to see who dies with the most money first. There has to be an answer to the whole dilemma. All I know for fact is that they are killing us with these rates. It's nearly the same as saying you won't get any benefit at all, we'll just cover your medical. While my wife was laid off for 3 1/2 months, we were sinking faster then ever before. I don't know. I just don't know. :confused:
 
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