Magnesium and calcification

[4myhealth]

22 days post AVR/4cabg and much time to read and reflect. Pre-surgery numbers were great- BP 120/80--Chol. 185--serum Homocysteine 6.5- so with numbers like these why the intervention?

I came upon some info that may be insightful. Magnesium is a mineral that is responsible for keeping calcium in suspension in the cardiovascular system and the most common cause of CVD is calcification of valves and arteries. The current statistics are that 80% of the population is Magnesium deficiency which is further depleted by many drugs and stress.Magnesium is also a vasodialator and helps reduce blood pressure and to control cholesterol. The higher the calcium intake the more Mg your body needs, ditto protein. The estimated intake for the average adult is around 200mg from diet. The estimated need for an active adult is 4mg/lb bodyweight. Quite a difference!
The source of the info is The Magnesium Miracle by Dr. Carolyn Dean Md.Nd.

 

[cldlhd]

Pumpkin seeds are loaded with magnesium,I keep a container in my work truck and snack on them throughout the day. It appears that vitamin d3 and possibly vitamin k2 also help get calcium in the bones rather than the arteries. I don't understand why more doctors don't tell their patients this,particularly when they tell post menopausal women to take calcium supplements to help prevent osteoporosis.

 

[4myhealth]

Yes,
Pumpkin seeds also contain Zinc a necessary cofactor in Mg usage. From what I have read so far Magnesium and as you mentioned K2 could be key in resolving the "recalcification" issue. From my vantage point I don't ever want a repeat.

 

[cldlhd]

The CT angio showed I had some calcified plaque in the wall of my one coronary artery but the cardiac cath showed the interior of the arteries to be clear and plaque free. What do you mean by "recalcification".

 

[Paleowoman]

Vitamin K2 is the biggie in stopping calcification as it puts calcium in the bones and stops it going in the arteries. But along with K2 there is vitamin D3 and vitamin A….and magnesium ! This book by Dr Kate Rheaume-Bleue: 'Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox' is good at explaining it: http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-K2-Ca...1&keywords=vitamin+k2+and+the+calcium+paradox I take 300 mcg of K2 as MK-7 per day along with 2,800 IU D3 and some vitamin A and magnesium. There is currently research and human trial going on at Maastrict University into the effect of vitamin K2 in preventing/reversing coronary calcification.

 

[4myhealth]

The CT angio showed I had some calcified plaque in the wall of my one coronary artery but the cardiac cath showed the interior of the arteries to be clear and plaque free. What do you mean by "recalcification".

According to the reading I have done the Biosyn valves are coated with a substance to inhibit recalcification--I interpret that to mean that there is an expectation of that event occurring. In my case my aortic valve was tricuspid but badly calcified and as were 4 of my coronary arteries. I am a gym rat and eat very healthy---I am thinking K2 or Mg deficiency caused the problems. Past history as a career firefighter probably contributes.

 

[4myhealth]

Vitamin K2 is the biggie in stopping calcification as it puts calcium in the bones and stops it going in the arteries. But along with K2 there is vitamin D3 and vitamin A….and magnesium ! This book by Dr Kate Rheaume-Bleue: 'Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox' is good at explaining it: http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-K2-Ca...1&keywords=vitamin+k2+and+the+calcium+paradox I take 300 mcg of K2 as MK-7 per day along with 2,800 IU D3 and some vitamin A and magnesium. There is currently research and human trial going on at Maastrict University into the effect of vitamin K2 in preventing/reversing coronary calcification.

Thanks Anne, I admire people who look for answers and you have done your homework. I just finished watching a video on Mercola's site made by the guy from the Netherlands who has done much research on K2 and calcification. They have a study ongoing that is trying to determine if K2 can actually reverse the process. I will try to find the works you mentioned and download them to my Kindle.
How long till you regained your zip from your surgery?? Still feeling like a truck hit me.

 

[cldlhd]

I found a good 2 a day vitamin from Thorne research ,has 200 mcg of k1 and k2. Also has 5000 iu of vitamin a and 3000 iu of vit d3. So they think it's possible to not only prevent but remove plaque?

 

[Paleowoman]

Thanks Anne, I admire people who look for answers and you have done your homework. I just finished watching a video on Mercola's site made by the guy from the Netherlands who has done much research on K2 and calcification. They have a study ongoing that is trying to determine if K2 can actually reverse the process. I will try to find the works you mentioned and download them to my Kindle.
How long till you regained your zip from your surgery?? Still feeling like a truck hit me.

I actually emailed Dr Vermeer, the researcher in the Netherlands, and got some information from him ! This was a couple of years ago. The clinical trial is still ongoing: http://ichgcp.net/clinical-trials-registry/NCT01002157 So interesting !

I regained my zip a couple of weeks before Christmas ! So it took nearly a year to get back to how I was pre-surgery. I feel fit and healthy again with lots of stamina and endurance ! Turned out that my lungs were affected and causing me problems. It took my endo to guess that in October and tell me to see my respiratory doc who did a chest x-ray which showed air trapping. Probably the surgery with stopping the lungs and the anaesthesia had a detrimental effect on my small airways disease. I upped my preventer inhaler and now I'm back to normal ! Pity the cardiologist didn't think of that. Pity I didn't think of it either...it was too easy to think that all my problems were heart related. That's the trouble with compartmentalising medicine and having too many specialists with not enough generalists....my endo is a very good specialist as well as a very good generalist.

Hope you start feeling better soon. You're only just over three weeks out ! Wow, at three weeks I was a wreck and my endo nearly had me readmitted to hospital I was so ill. Hang in there...see your docs if you're concerned about anything, and do your walking and resting and be gentle on yourself - you have been hit by a truck, that's how my cardio put it to me. You will find that things move ahead faster when you're able to start cardiac rehab, usually around six or eight weeks post surgery.

 

[4myhealth]

I actually emailed Dr Vermeer, the researcher in the Netherlands, and got some information from him ! This was a couple of years ago. The clinical trial is still ongoing: http://ichgcp.net/clinical-trials-registry/NCT01002157 So interesting !

I regained my zip a couple of weeks before Christmas ! So it took nearly a year to get back to how I was pre-surgery. I feel fit and healthy again with lots of stamina and endurance ! Turned out that my lungs were affected and causing me problems. It took my endo to guess that in October and tell me to see my respiratory doc who did a chest x-ray which showed air trapping. Probably the surgery with stopping the lungs and the anaesthesia had a detrimental effect on my small airways disease. I upped my preventer inhaler and now I'm back to normal ! Pity the cardiologist didn't think of that. Pity I didn't think of it either...it was too easy to think that all my problems were heart related. That's the trouble with compartmentalising medicine and having too many specialists with not enough generalists....my endo is a very good specialist as well as a very good generalist.

Hope you start feeling better soon. You're only just over three weeks out ! Wow, at three weeks I was a wreck and my endo nearly had me readmitted to hospital I was so ill. Hang in there...see your docs if you're concerned about anything, and do your walking and resting and be gentle on yourself - you have been hit by a truck, that's how my cardio put it to me. You will find that things move ahead faster when you're able to start cardiac rehab, usually around six or eight weeks post surgery.

Thanks for the encouragement--I was in pretty good shape going in (still lifting and walking 1 week prior) Everybody say's take it day by day and I guess that's good advice. I am looking forward to rehab I am reading that it is huge as far as getting back in the game. I will do more reading on K2 and I have some Mg.on the way.
Glad you are well now---looking forward to that day.

 

[carolinemc]

For those of you that do not know, for those of us on Warfrin, we have to be careful of too much vitamin A intake. But thanks for the advice for those who do not have that worry. And always check with your doctor before trying anything new. Hug for today.

 

[wantabodylikeme]

Vitamin K2 is the biggie in stopping calcification as it puts calcium in the bones and stops it going in the arteries. But along with K2 there is vitamin D3 and vitamin A….and magnesium ! This book by Dr Kate Rheaume-Bleue: 'Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox' is good at explaining it: http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-K2-Ca...1&keywords=vitamin+k2+and+the+calcium+paradox I take 300 mcg of K2 as MK-7 per day along with 2,800 IU D3 and some vitamin A and magnesium. There is currently research and human trial going on at Maastrict University into the effect of vitamin K2 in preventing/reversing coronary calcification.

Curious about this K2. Does it effect INR like regular K does?

 

[cldlhd]

I guess that's the million dollar question. IF vitamin K2 does help prevent calcification of arteries without affecting INR to greatly then those on warfarin could take a k2 supplement.