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I went to ER in A Fib and they had to shock my heart back to rythym. They gave me some meds so I would not remember the shock. I not only do not remember the shock, I forgot a lot for the next two weeks. I forgot some of the doctors appt. I had been to just before I went to the hospital and I forget the some of the squad ride and most of the ER visit. Has this happened to anyone and is this normal. If so, what causes this ?

Deb
 
I went to ER in A Fib and they had to shock my heart back to rythym. They gave me some meds so I would not remember the shock. I not only do not remember the shock, I forgot a lot for the next two weeks. I forgot some of the doctors appt. I had been to just before I went to the hospital and I forget the some of the squad ride and most of the ER visit. Has this happened to anyone and is this normal. If so, what causes this ?

Deb[/QUOTE]Conincidence is Gods way of remaining anonymous!
 
The forgetting of the ER visit and stuff leading up to the administration of the amnesia inducing medication (Diprovan? Versed?) is called retrograde amnesia. This is also what happens to people who have concussions during car accidents or fights--explaining why people can't remember the actual events immediately prior to the injury. It's also a way to separate truth from untruth if someone gives an 'account' of remembering an event that supposedly involved severe head trauma to the point of concussion or brain injury.

Brains store short term memories in three levels. The first lasts only seconds and is limited (7 digit numbers are easily recalled, but 8 or more are difficult without memory aids), the next is short-term that lasts about 20 minutes before long-term memories are laid down. Versed and concussions both interrupt the laying down of long-term memories (as does some types of Alzheimer's disease). The retrograde part can remove completely 20 minutes or possibly more of memories prior to the amnesia inducing method. Newly laid down long-term memories sometimes lack a 'hook' to current continuity of thought--explaining total amnesia for recent events over many years or perhaps an entire lifetime.

It sounds like whatever you got for amnesia was much more effective than you bargained for, causing not only retrograde, but some residual effects two weeks afterward. I suspect you can recall stuff involving lots of emotion or concentration during the weeks with the impaired memory, but ordinary stuff was what was forgotten, right?

It's just my opinion, but I did experience some minor retrograde amnesia on administration of Versed just after I was intubated. I don't remember being intubated, nor the five minutes of conversation with my wife and EMT staff just prior to intubation. I also don't recall being extubated, either, and it took about 10 minutes after extubation before my brain's ability to remember from one moment to the next recovered completely so I can recall that time even now 4 1/2 months later.

Toprol, especially when I was up to 100 mg per day, caused some memory problems--I can't recall events of several days in a row at the worst time. Now that I'm off, my memory works fine with only a few hiccups here and there.

Chris
 
Thank you for the information. Yes, you are right. I remember the doc coming in and telling me they are doing valve replacement on Friday 8a., but do not remember visitors, conversations, things like that.

Deb
 
After my heart attack four years ago, I spent three days in ICU on a balloon pump before I had OHS but have almost no memory of those three days. Just random snippets. When on that pump, you must be kept very still and cannot raise the head of the bed more than a slight angle. Definitely no sitting up permitted. The balloon could 'pop' so they must have kept me very sedated. It still nags at me to have no memory of those three days. My life took such a change from that time forward, I wish I had more memory.
 
Deb,

I hear your frustration but I have to say that I wish there were things I did not remember from my surgeries. I can remember everything (except the actual surgery itself) - breathing tubes, caths, tubes coming out, wires being pulled, etc., etc., etc. I would love to have forgotten a lot of them.

I guess we all are different which is what makes this forum so interesting.

I think there is a chance your memory will come back with time. If not, just try and focus on the thought that there might be things better left in deep dark holes.
 
I guess I didn't get any of that. I remember everything vividly until they "turned me off" at the OR, and vividly again when I became fully awake, including extubation and passing out several times trying to stay awake enought to have the tube out.

That type of drug affects different people to different degrees. It would seem that you are more sensitive to it. Otherwise, you would have to look to Transient Ischemic Attacks or other more basely physical issues as a cause, which are less likely. With visitors, it would be difficult for no one to have noticed odd behavior.

Best wishes,
 

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