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:) :eek: :( :) :confused: :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :p ;) :D hi everyone !When I was pre opp. I had great results with hops to sleep and valerium also an herb.NOW I really have'nt a clue of what to do.I take antivan to get to sleep but I believe it comes with baggage.IT actually just stopped working after 6 months so I increased the dose, however I'd love to get back to Herb's world .
all the best leroy
 
I've been trying to find info on the effect of INR w/ valerian. Right now I use Ambien if I can't get to sleep.
 
Ativan is a horrible choice for sleep. It loses its effect and the dose must be increased. The vicious cycle repeats itself. Eventually you become addicted and cannot sleep either with it or without it.

I have never seen evidence that hops or valerian caused harm with warfarin. Try them again and get your INR checked about one week after starting them.
 
Don't know what Al Lodwick thinks

Don't know what Al Lodwick thinks

about Melatonin. After I had a minor operation, I had a great deal of difficulty getting to sleep, staying asleep, and having nightmares. My doctor suggested Melatonin and it worked like a charm for me. Now, I don't take anticoagulants, but our doctor said Albert could take Melatonin also, as needed. But, I am not sure.....Once my sleeping problems were resolved, so were his. Looking forward to Al Lodwick's take on this one.
http://www.hometestmed.com/bb_sleep.asp
Regards,
Blanche
 
In today's British Medical Journal

In today's British Medical Journal

Efficacy and safety of exogenous melatonin for secondary sleep disorders and sleep disorders accompanying sleep restriction: meta-analysis
Nina Buscemi, research associate1, Ben Vandermeer, statistician1, Nicola Hooton, project coordinator1, Rena Pandya, project manager1, Lisa Tjosvold, research librarian1, Lisa Hartling, administrative director1, Sunita Vohra, director2, Terry P Klassen, director1, Glen Baker, professor and chair3
1 University of Alberta/Capital Health Evidence-based Practice Centre, Department of Pediatrics, University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB, Canada T6G 2J3, 2 Complementary and Alternative Research and Education Program, Department of Pediatrics, University of Alberta, 3 Department of Psychiatry, University of Alberta


Correspondence to: N Buscemi [email protected]


Abstract

Objective To conduct a systematic review of the efficacy and safety of exogenous melatonin in managing secondary sleep disorders and sleep disorders accompanying sleep restriction, such as jet lag and shiftwork disorder.

Data sources 13 electronic databases and reference lists of relevant reviews and included studies; Associated Professional Sleep Society abstracts (1999 to 2003).

Study selection The efficacy review included randomised controlled trials; the safety review included randomised and non-randomised controlled trials.

Quality assessment Randomised controlled trials were assessed by using the Jadad Scale and criteria by Schulz et al, and non-randomised controlled trials by the Downs and Black checklist.

Data extraction and synthesis One reviewer extracted data and another reviewer verified the data extracted. The inverse variance method was used to weight studies and the random effects model was used to analyse data.

Main results Six randomised controlled trials with 97 participants showed no evidence that melatonin had an effect on sleep onset latency in people with secondary sleep disorders (weighted mean difference -13.2 (95% confidence interval -27.3 to 0.9) min). Nine randomised controlled trials with 427 participants showed no evidence that melatonin had an effect on sleep onset latency in people who had sleep disorders accompanying sleep restriction (-1.0 (-2.3 to 0.3) min). 17 randomised controlled trials with 651 participants showed no evidence of adverse effects of melatonin with short term use (three months or less).

Conclusions There is no evidence that melatonin is effective in treating secondary sleep disorders or sleep disorders accompanying sleep restriction, such as jet lag and shiftwork disorder. There is evidence that melatonin is safe with short term use.
 
allodwick said:
Conclusions There is no evidence that melatonin is effective in treating secondary sleep disorders or sleep disorders accompanying sleep restriction, such as jet lag and shiftwork disorder. There is evidence that melatonin is safe with short term use.


I had heard this a few weeks ago on the news. My sister-in-law swears by the stuff tho', so go figure.
 
I used ambien for sleep. I was asleep within 10 minutes of taking it every time. I only took it short term and it worked well. Make sure you have 7-8 hrs to devote to sleep though. I would wake up in am and have to nap in chair until I had the full 7-8 hrs.

Heather
 
Nothing works for me. I'm a doomed insomniac. Ambien and Lunesta are nothing but expensive sugar pills to me. :(
 
Melatonin

Melatonin

My son-in-law has taken this for years. He sometimes has to work odd hours.....However, everytime I have spent the night there..he is up and showered and making beds..at 6 A.M... Kids up. breakfast and out the door.:eek: and I am having my first cup of coffee.:D ( this is when my daughter is out of town) and helping out........He must have a great night's sleep.:D ..Bonnie
 
The study was only about short-term use. It could be that something different happens when people take it long-term.

What would this site be like if Ross could sleep? Maybe we should have a science fiction writing contest portraying what that would be like!!
 
This might help

This might help

Ross said:
Nothing works for me. I'm a doomed insomniac. Ambien and Lunesta are nothing but expensive sugar pills to me. :(

Hi Ross,

Don't mean to hijack thread about herbs for sleeping. Maybe this will help.

Whenever I either can't fall asleep or wake up in the middle of the night I either get back up or stay up and work on a jigsaw puzzle.

Cheers!
 
Herbs for sleep

Herbs for sleep

Yeah, this website might not even exist if Ross could sleep.

Personally, I rely on the herb Passion Flower (totally a misnomer) 2-3 capsules @350 mg, favorite brand Solaray plus or minus half a Unisom TABLET (over-the-counter sleep aid at your local pharmacy). Note that the drug in the Unisom CAPSULES does not work for me.

Sometimes if I'm really having an anxiety attack I'll add in a capsule or two of the herb Skullcap for good measure. I also rely heavily on guided imagery and relaxation CDs on a personal CD player in the nightstand + ear buds so I don't wake my husband. Also try books on CD although I always fall asleep and miss the plot.

For guided imagery and relaxation CDs:

http://www.guidedimageryinc.com/
(Cleveland Clinic actually let me listen to Diane's "Guided Imagery for Stressful Times" through my heart surgery with the CD player set on endless repeat; in fact, they give out free copies to patients on the pre-op day. It was still playing when I woke up in ICU--amazing)

http://www.healthjourneys.com/
(lots of options here; the heart surgery CDs are good for preparing and recovering)

http://www.relaxintuit.com/

Andrew Weil's CD Sound Body Sound Mind is also intriguing in theory. Supposedly synchronizes your brain waves with sound to align them with the alpha meditative state. Sometimes it works for me; sometimes not.
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/sound-remedies/sounbodsounm11.html
 
Melatonin

Melatonin

I've used melatonin for a sleep aid a few times, and it did really help me get to sleep. The next morning I had a hard time waking up, and felt groggy for about 30 or 40 minutes even after coffee. I'd use it again if I was too anxious to sleep. Hope ypu find something that works for you. Sleep is tremendously important to good health. Ross, I sure hope you can work it out too! Brian
 
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