Gross Alert-Baby Elephant Birth
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Very sad that the newborn elephant had to arrive into the world being dropped onto a cement floor....so traumatic.
I remember having a Shetland Pony start to give birth while standing up, so I went in and I caught the newborn foal in my arms before it hit the ground. The spray of afterbirth and fluids was a nasty surprise though. Yuk.
I remember having a Shetland Pony start to give birth while standing up, so I went in and I caught the newborn foal in my arms before it hit the ground. The spray of afterbirth and fluids was a nasty surprise though. Yuk.
What an amazing video to watch the birth of this little one! And the agony that the poor mama must have been in....aye, pains me to think of it! 
Ross
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I was hatched pretty much like that, including the kicked around part. Heck, that's never stopped.
I like your view on things Bina- I should have thought of that,but I was too busy being nauseous--some nurse I am!!
Nothing like a good swift kick in the head to get you breathing.
In nature the elephant would have had more space to walk around during her labour, and she would have chosen a nice spot to plop her baby down. These zoos and "nature" parks piss me off sometimes, even though they do some good work too.
cp172
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WOW. Makes me appreciate all mothers on this wonderful planet!
I also am very pleased males have only limited involvement in the birth process.
I also am very pleased males have only limited involvement in the birth process.
Then you do not want to read Jensen's book on the subject of zoos called "Thought to Exist in the Wild" -- very sad and disturbing--I must thank
my mom for sending it to me
I don't know if this is true,but I got the info out of a book written by Carl Sagan, and he says that in comparison with humans, other mammals,do not go thru the same level of pain during labor. He said this pain occurs with humans because of our huge highly evolved brain and that, in fact, we cannot evolve any further as far as size goes.What an amazing video to watch the birth of this little one! And the agony that the poor mama must have been in....aye, pains me to think of it!
Right Dina, there are really very few animals that survive decently in zoo settings.
Elephants cry just as humans do when they mourn their dead.
This I believe. I'm also curious about the labor pain in animals since from what I have witnessed, animals are very good at hiding pain and it is even difficult to tell when your own pet is ill. Though the Sagan book(Dragons of Eden) does make a good point about skull size in re/to size of pelvic bone.
I think he actually says that if human brain size were to increase...that the pelvic width would have to increase to the point where we would lose the ability to walk!
I don't like zoos and haven't been in one since I was a child. I was having lunch with a girlfriend the other day and she said, "Killer (not his real name) is going to Africa to kill a zebra."
I asked her, "What for...?"
She said, "'Killer' likes to have his game mounted and hung in the gameroom."
That really pissed me off and I said, "What's that zebra ever done to 'Killer'?"
To which she answered, "Those zebras are mean."
So before I threw my potato salad at her I said, "No they're not and that's just like shooting your horse......geez, what sport, what bravery that requires."
Uh, no I haven't been to lunch with her since then..!!
I asked her, "What for...
?" She said, "'Killer' likes to have his game mounted and hung in the gameroom."
That really pissed me off and I said, "What's that zebra ever done to 'Killer'?"
To which she answered, "Those zebras are mean."
So before I threw my potato salad at her I said, "No they're not and that's just like shooting your horse......geez, what sport, what bravery that requires."
Uh, no I haven't been to lunch with her since then..!!
I'll watch the video when I get home.
If an animal has a small litter -- numerically, not size of the pups, kits, whatever -- sometimes the size of the individual babies is much larger and the mother has more difficulty in giving birth. Those larger babies can be more painful to bring into the world. And then there are presentation problems -- wrong positions -- which can block littermates, causing some to die unfortunately.
I am always truly amazed that any animal -- human or not -- survives the birth process and first few weeks or months of growth. Life is truly fragile. (How well we know that here!)
Janie:
Along the same lines, I don't go to horse or dog tracks.
If an animal has a small litter -- numerically, not size of the pups, kits, whatever -- sometimes the size of the individual babies is much larger and the mother has more difficulty in giving birth. Those larger babies can be more painful to bring into the world. And then there are presentation problems -- wrong positions -- which can block littermates, causing some to die unfortunately.
I am always truly amazed that any animal -- human or not -- survives the birth process and first few weeks or months of growth. Life is truly fragile. (How well we know that here!)
Janie:
Along the same lines, I don't go to horse or dog tracks.
hall
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To me...........Amazing video!
