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della_anne

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Grief, not a very fun thing to go through. Even though my heart surgeries were years and years ago, I am still going though grief. The unresolved emotional issues of my past have come back to haunt me.

Lately, I have been trying hard to deal with stress at work. I have a stressful job and I would really like to keep it despite the fact that it is stressful. I really do not want to go though the emotional turmoil of having to find another job.
Its interesting how things work, I never thought that my heart condition would much later in my life affect the way I deal with stress at work, but apparently, it is.

Has anyone ever been though grief? How did you handle it? How did it affect the rest of your life?
 
You are right grief is usually related to the death of someone, but in my case
No, not refering to the grief caused by death, but the grief caused by being sick in the hospital and going through emergency surgeries.
 
We all deal with stress in different ways as we do in grief. When it is a loved one, it never ends. Mine happens during Christmas. My mother, she passed on 00, loved Christmas and tried to make it special whe she had no money. So, when I see a seaon movie, certain scenes make me cry a little, as it reminds me of her. But, I do handle it well. The rest of the year, I am fine. My father passed before her and they were divorced for years. I do not miss him much. But we all handle the grief differently. That is all I can think of. Have a great week.
 
Hi Della Ann

I know exactly what you mean.

I have much the same heart histroy as you have. As a child i had to be twice operated at my aorta, and 7 weeks ago I had my Aortic valve replaced.
And yes i grive.

My burst of depression are probably still related to the recent operation, but i live with grive contantly.

I also think that grive, the feeling of loss sometimes comes up a with the heart issue because it is easy to attach it to the operations. Maybe there are other losses who affect us also and we just have not recognised them yet.

Also the bucket of grive can just get to full. (like losing a job you really love).
And then all the grive will hit you once more.

I got enough strategies to deal with my feelings, and now i honour them. Until recently i ignored them or rationalized them. Maybe that what it is my recent heart operation learned me, to feel and express all sorts of emotion.

The heart is the organ of the emotion, listen to it. It might just let you know who you are and what you need to do.

Eowyn Rose
 
Hey, girl, long time no hear... Was happy to see you posting but not happy to hear you are having difficulties. I had some post-surgical depression that lasted for a month or so, but I haven't had any grief per se. I do have a tendency to be much more anxious now than before surgery, but that could be from other things, teaching, kids, etc. It seems that being able to communicate with others like us on the forum is probably a good outlet. So many of us find companionship and support here. I know you're also connected with the congenital forum as well (the people we met at Olive Garden). If it gets to be too much to bear, then you may need to seek help with a counselor or the like. Please stay connected and pm me any time if I can help.
 
Counseling

Counseling

Della Anne,

I start Counseling tomorrow. I am veyr good at helping other people deal with there problems or jsut to feel better, but I am very bad at cheering myself up or even doing anything to help myself. I have alot going on with my health right now, including alot of uncertainties and my Pulmonologist thought it might help me to be able to talk to someone about it. And I agreed, worht a shot atleast. It is just a thought..

Erica
 
Sherry said:
I do have a tendency to be much more anxious now...

*tilts head*

Dang...and I thought I was the only one. The last few months, I seem to be anxious at just about anything that is "off" for me. I haven't been able to pinpoint an exact cause, partly because so much is going on right now.

D_A,
I'm not sure that I can offer any better advice/suggestions that what people have already written, but I understand, somewhat, what you are experiencing. It is difficult to get through, when nobody immediately available to us understands....

If you need to get together sometime soon, let me know. Maybe we could get to work on that Chicago area vr.com gathering at Fermilab. I know, even from my own personal experience, that that will only help for a little bit, but every little bit counts...and helps....

Sorry I don't have any better "words of wisdom" for you....


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I am not a psychological expert by any means, but perhaps this thought can help. I think that when we learn that our bodies are not perfect or do not work in the ways that normal people's do, we "grieve" in a way over the loss. It's almost like when we learn that a body part is not working right, it's as if part of us has died, and we have to learn to cope with the death of that body part. So, I think it's totally normal to have a grieving process for that body part (I know this sounds stupid but it's really not if you think about it) and if you never went through that grieving process, then it could come back to affect you later, just like any other grieving process that one tries to brush past too quickly. I think maybe you might want to talk to someone about this, a professional, if you haven't already. You may be being too harsh on yourself.
 
knightfan2691 said:
Sorry I don't have any better "words of wisdom" for you....

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It's okay knightfan, I'll get through this...I'm just going through a temporary phase in my life right now. One day I'll be happy again!
 
Erica,

Good luck with the counseling. I can say from experience, talking about your problems definitely helps. When I was younger, high school age...I rarely talked about my heart condition, unless someone else brought it up. I was afraid my peers would not understand, or be insensitive to my health problems. Now I am more open about it and talk about it more to friends and peers and find that its not all that bad. Even though they might not understand what I am going though, they can listen and just be there for me and that helps.
 
della_anne said:
knightfan2691 said:
Sorry I don't have any better "words of wisdom" for you....
It's okay knightfan, I'll get through this...I'm just going through a temporary phase in my life right now. One day I'll be happy again!

*nods*

You most certainly will! I hope it comes sooner, rather than later, for you.... I know it came later for me, tho :(.

And, sadly, the "sadness" seems to have returned, due to problems at work :(. Grrr....but, this too shall pass :).
 
We've all got some grief in our lives, mine is the fact that my husband is gone for 6 months, I have accepted it though and keep myself busy. One of my best friends is having problems because her husband is abusive, and she is considering leaving him. After my OHS at age 23, I was depressed too. When I found out I had heart problems, I was extremely sick and that depressed me. I hate being sick. I hated the fact that I couldn't pick up my 3 month old son, and the fact that I couldn't drive anywhere for a couple of weeks, and the fact that I was helpless without my husband there, because I couldn't lift more than 8 pounds. I still feel depressed and alone sometimes, but then I sign on to this site, and it is amazing the outpour of support I get, even for non heart related issues. I guess what I am trying to say is, we understand, and we're all here for you!

Joy
 
Grief in that your body is not, and will never again be, like it was before you either discovered you had a heart condition that would require surgery or the heart condition you were born with has deteriorated to the point where surgery will be neccesary for your survival.


I think that form of greif comes up because there is a loss, a loss in what and who we are in that we are healthy, and now well not be as so. Like losing a limb or one's hearing. It's a systemic, life-altering change that can never be undone.

You are experiencing some wierd chest pains or maybe feinting spells and after ruling out obvious causes you are refered to a heart specialist who tells you you've had a bicuspid aortic valve since birth and it's going to have to be replaced very soon or you will die.

A WHO?

WHAT?

Since I was born?

How come I never heard of this before?


It can be a VERY hard pill to swallow. You've been reasonably healthy all of your life and you've never suspected anything could be wrong with your heart then, all of the sudden, there it is, a date marked on the calender when near strangers will cut into your chest and remove a part of you, replacing it with a piece of plastic and metal.

If you DON'T have a negative reaction to that thought, you need some SERIOUS professional help. :D

Many of us are born with the conditions we have. I've lived my whole life knwoing my heart was "different" from other people's and that there was a chance that at some point, I'd be needing more surgery. I wasn't happy about it when my heart started going downhill, but I know where I stood, know what was going on, and in some sense, I've been preparing for it for over 20 years.

However, in the two months leading up to my surgery, I was definitely in a very bad depressive state. My body was betraying me in every sense of the word. I couldn't do what I wanted to. My mind said, "stand up" and my body said, "NO." and that was extremely frustrating.

My darkest moments were sitting on the toilet in the bathroom, just sitting there, almost unable and unwilling to move, to get up. Just there, focused on breathing lightly so that I didn't get into another coughing fit. Hunched over with my elbows on my knees and just breathing, labored, eyes closed.

I did this a lot in the kitchen too, though I usually had a little more motivation to get up and move around.

I was in a very bad state for nearly a month and I don't even think my wife and my father who were with me the whole time realize just how bad I was mentally.
I didn't want to fight, but I didn't want to die either, I wasn't quite ready to give up on that yet. Maybe a little bit stubborn.


I think having been through all of that plus the protracted recovery and hospital stay afterwards is a key in how I "avoided" the kind of depression many people here have talked about AFTER surgery...

My surgery was in March, the dead of winter. A massive snow storm was moving through the area the night I was wheeled into the OR, my father and then fiance were caught in it, trying to get back to the hospital after finding out I was literally dying. I spent the next two months in the hospital first struggling to survive then slowly making steps towards recovery. Nine weeks later I was discharged. Spring was just starting up, the air was warmer and "sweeter" and flowers were just starting to come out. Within a week, everything was fresh and new and bright and warm and it just seemed to match how I felt. My body was getting stronger by the day. I could go outside and walk around the neighborhood in warm air, with a warm breeze and the sun on my face.

It's interesting to note that I think the best two summers I've had in recent memory is the one right after I had surgery and one two years before, the summer of 2001, before our world changed in New York City and Washington DC...


If you're feeling depressed, for any reason, talk to people. Talk to people who've been there personally, talk to nurses or doctors or other people who work with people who've been there. Talking to family is nice if you can do it, but it invites complications when those family members are also trying to find ways to deal with your condition. Of course professional counseling is another option to consider, but it's hard for most of us to take that step without all of the "baggage" that occassionally comes with it.
 
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