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Seaton

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First things first:

Bicuspid aortic valve diagnosed February 2015.
Moderate stenosis: 1.0cm².
Peak gradient: 41mm Hg, mean 21mm Hg. My peak gradient three years ago was 35mm Hg
Mild aortic root dilation: 3.6cm.

I’ve been lurking here some months now, gathering information and advice from the remarkable conversations being conducted – and soaking up the generous and humane wisdom of the brilliant archive. I begin by saying a very big thank you to all past and present contributors.

I bumped into a bicuspid aortic valve diagnosis back in February this year after a routine echocardiogram for continual palpitations.

The technician doing the echo at St Thomas’ Hospital in London suddenly exclaimed mid examination: Oh, you have a bicuspid aortic valve. He then went on to describe what it was and drew me a little diagram on a piece of paper. I’d never heard of it.

I was discharged from hospital surveillance aged seven following early recognition of a heart murmur and febrile convulsions. I’m now a few days over fifty-seven. I’ve always mentioned to health practitioners throughout my adulthood that I have a murmur (some heard it without me telling them about it), but none had ever suggested a need to investigate as to its probable cause.

Three years ago I'd experienced several episodes of severe encompassing aching pain around my heart region and a radiating pain down my left arm (both occasions lasted about two or three minutes and were really quite alarming). I immediately sought medical advice as I assumed I was having a heart attack. But it was ‘not a heart attack’. Most likely ‘a muscle spasm’. I had an echocardiogram. ‘Slight wear and tear of the valve.’ Advised that there was nothing of real concern and told to come back in five years. No mention of the term bicuspid valve.

As I waited for a first cardiology appointment in April at St Thomas’ Hospital, my mill pond was initially unsettled as I researched bicuspid valve disease. But more considered reading in the meantime, and the superlative and measured accounts at Valve Replacement dot Org, soon helped calm any choppy waters I was experiencing.

I'’ve had an x-ray and a CT-angiogram and have worn a 24-hour holter monitor to study my palpitations (which incidentally have now receded in regularity). And last week I had a second echocardiogram, which has shown my readings have remained pretty much the same as an echo I had in April.

My cardiologist has arranged for me to speak with a cardiothoracic surgeon at St Thomas’ Hospital, London. I await an appointment.

It seems there may be some way to go before surgical intervention, according to my measurements. My stenosis is apparently 'on the cusp of severe to moderate', but I remain moderate.

Suppose that means I rest in the waiting room. But it’s certainly a room made much more comfortable knowing there are generous minded people like your good selves to listen to. My appreciation and warm thoughts abound to all.

*Bit of further past health info:

For three years before 2000 I had been continually ill with extreme fatigue and fevers. I was a keen swimmer and hill walker then and both of these pursuits became increasingly difficult. Instead of swimming my usual daily thirty lengths, I had to crawl exhausted out of the pool after only three or four. I knew something was amiss. Various doctors consistently fobbed me off by as either having a post viral blip that would soon abate or an acute attack of hypochondria. Finally, a sympathetic doctor sent me for an x-ray. I had enlarged lymph nodes (bilateral hilar lymphadenopathy). My GP was worried it was cancer (lymphoma). There was a hospital stay, a general anaesthetic and a lymph node biopsy performed. The biopsy confirmed I had sarcoidosis (I’d never heard of it). So it was good to know my symptoms weren't imaginary. Which was an object lesson in itself.

I had to take high doses of steroids (prednisolone – 'the only effective treatment for the incurable – and potentially fatal – illness sarcoidosis'). After two years the illness went into remission and has not returned since.

Even so, I had continued to be extremely exhausted with muscle weakness and pain, aching bones and general fatigue. The doctors suggested my body was possibly recovering from the side effects of the prednisolone. But the extreme malaise continued. As they could find no obvious cause of my continuing malady, I was eventually diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, the symptoms of which continues to varying degrees of severity until this day.

But, noticeably, the last year or so my fatigue seems markedly worse. It seems my already limited ability to sustain reasonable walking distances or aspects of physical activity has worsened. My sleeping is heavy and deep, fatigue and degrees of muscle pain at rest predominate.

Of course, I’m ageing, which may be a factor. Yet, now with my bicuspid aortic valve diagnosis in the mix (and its potential effects on the body), there are questions here as to whether I’m experiencing BAV symptoms and not CFS or possibly a mix of both or not (as the case may be!)? Perhaps the CFS symptoms are in effect BAV symptoms? Perhaps I don’t have CFS any longer? Or perhaps my BAV isn’t at a serious enough stage to warrant the type of symptoms I’m currently experiencing anyway? But hey ho, who knows …

As I write there’s a beautiful wren singing outside my window. For now, all is good.
 
Hi Seaton - welcome to the forum, even if you have been a lurker :) I too am from London, near Hampton Court.

The murmur from my bicuspid aortic valve was heard when I was 25 but nothing much was done about it, apart from a couple of echocardiograms in my 30's, until I was 53 when a gastroenterologist I was consulting suggested I see a cardiologist again. Cardiologist at that point said my peak gradient was 35 mm/Hg and I had yearly echos from then on. I have a graph I made showing how the pressure gradient increased each year - it increased at roughly 3 mm/Hg per year until it suddenly shot up from a peak gradient of 54 to 68 mm/Hg over one year. At that point - I was 60 - I was referred for surgery. My valve area size was approx 0.9. I had absolutley no symptoms at all and felt very fit. I was doing long walks and lifting weights - I do weight lifting, but not girlie weight lifting despite being a woman and 60 - I lifted pretty heavy weights ! Even the day before surgery, though I had cut down a bit on medical advice :)

Are you going to be having regular echos from now on ? Does your cardiologist or GP think your fatigue symtoms are to do with your BAV ? Do you know your Ejection Fraction ? The Ejection Fraction gives an indication of how your heart is coping with the stenosis. My Ejection Fraction has always been around 79%, except imedicatley following surgery, so that shows my heart was coping excellently with the stenosis which I would suppose is why I didn't have any symptoms. I actually had symptoms post surgery, took about a year to recover but that was also to do with my other health issues, particularly my small airways disease which meant I felt breathless following surgery until I upped the inhaled steroids I take. It was one of my other consultants who suggested that - the cardiologist just said my heart was fine. Sometimes you need a consultant who is able to think in more generalised ways to figure things out when you have several health issues going on at the same time.

all the best !

PS - as a child and in my 20's I used to get attacks every few months of severe chest pains in my heart area which prevented me breathing properly for a couple of minutes and also gave me pain down my left arm - all symptoms of angina or heart attack but obviously I didn't have either. I've since found out I had something called Precordial Catch syndrome - it's benign and not related to BAV, but I believe it is most likely a muscle spasm, it's not something much is known about.
 
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Thank you Paleogirl (Anne) and apologies for the slow reply! I wave in your general direction from south London.

(Incidentally, re your forum name, I'm assuming you're referring to the Paleo diet. If so, I've been more or less on it now for three years and have lost over three stones - 42lbs - in the interim. I'm now the weight I was in my mid 20s. The weight fell away without any real effort on my behalf. I see the Paleo as less a 'diet' and more a way of being reasonable about what you shove into your mouth. Seemed to work for me.)

Your considerable knowledge and experience is comforting and already you’ve introduced me to a new medical related term: Precordial Catch syndrome. Reading the Wikipedia entry on that subject seems to describe exactly something that used to happen to me on and off as a child and young adult. It’s not happened for a long time now. A sharp and cutting pain seized me that felt like it would rip my heart apart if I breathed in too far. It usually lasted a very short time and always stopped me dead for its duration. Then it would suddenly be gone and I could breathe normally again. But I never experienced a radiating ache with it. It was very localized.

My more recent experience of heart area pain (three years ago) was a consuming and heavy ache that ached into my left arm and quite took my breath away. As my doctors didn’t consider it a heart attack or angina at the time, it seems most probably Precordial Catch Syndrome related. Fascinating.

I saw a cardiologist last week (a different one – as it’s whoever’s available on the day) for my second appointment. He was most helpful and very open to me asking whatever I wished. He said it was difficult to be precise about the timing of any eventual surgery. Sooner or later, for sure. He wants me to see their team again in four months – an appointment I’m assuming will include another echo. Whether echos will be so regular after that I’m not sure. They may feel I benefit from yearly echos considering my staging if things remain relatively stable. I await my cardio surgeon’s appointment for further clarification and opinion. But reading about your experience and development (and others’ here) towards surgery is a tremendous help (and certainly humbling).

I’m afraid I’ve no idea what my Ejection Fraction reading is. I would love to know. I have copies of letters sent by the first cardiologist to my GP and to the surgeon, but no mention of an EF. I will ask at my next appointment – possibly August (surgeon) or November (cardiologist).

My copy of the letter from the cardiologist in April says I have: ‘quiet ejection systolic murmur with a low volume carotid pulse, no radiation’. It says I have good left ventricular function, non-dilated LV and a mildly dilated aortic root – 3.6 sq. cm. My stenosis is moderate. I have a narrow QRS with no ST abnormalities (?). It says there has been minor progression since my last echocardiogram in February.

In April I asked the cardiologist if she thought my recently worsened Chronic Fatigue Syndrome symptoms could in fact be BAV related, but she was non-committal and said it was difficult to say at this stage but that we should monitor symptoms.

So there we are for now. I wait and see and learn what I can.

Your additional small airways disease is unfortunate but I'm glad you eventually brought your post surgery breathlessness under control. I've known people with lung sarcoid who had small airways problems so I can imagine some of your breathing issues.

There's something tremendously inspiring about your weightlifting up until surgery (and afterwards!). Swimming and steady wild walking was my thing once upon a time, but both are back burnered to a greater or lesser degree now. I remain dreamy of getting back to water and hills with my former gusto.

Again a big thank you.
 
Hi Seaton,

Yes my username Paleogirl is because I have a Paleo diet :) I've been eating that way for nearly eight years now. I did it because a) I felt I was intolerant to grain foods, and b) I then developed diabetes - it is atypical Type 2 as I am not overweight, in fact I'm underweight and was bordering that on diagnosis, plus I'm not insulin resistant. The endocrinologist I see thinks I'm a "monogenic" type but the NHS like things to be Type 1 or Type 2 ! Endo also thinks I might have coeliac so it's just as well that I am on a Paleo diet as that is totally gluten/grain free and low carb. I eat extremely well, only downside is that it costs more than Neolithic food :)

I was thinking, you wrote in your first message that three years ago your pressure gradient was 35 mm/Hg - that was when you were 54 right ? Well my pressure gradient was 35 mm/Hg when I was 53 so practically the same. Yours seems to be progressing almost at the same rate, but everyone is different. When my pressure gradient reached 51 mm/Hg my cardiologist estimated he'd be referring me for surgery "in about two years' time" - he actually referred me two and a half years later so his estimate was pretty good. I should think they'll be giving you regular echos from now on as the pressure gradient can suddenly jump like mine did and that means the stenosis has got worse. You are going to be seeing a surgeon soon ? Already ? When you find out who do look at the Society for Cardiothoracic Surgery website in the patient section where you will see all the surgeons at the hospital you are referred to, I presume St Thomas' Hospital: http://www.scts.org/patients/default.aspx Definitely ask what your Ejection Fraction is !

Re that Precordial Catch syndrome - I never told anyone about it when I was a child as I was so scared it was something very serious. Children can think way differently from adults, at least I did, might be something to do with horrible dental work and not wanting to go near medical professionals when I was a child. The episodes never occurred when anyone else was around and so I was able to keep it to myself, and I always reassured myself too when it always resolved after about ten minutes. I would look in my parents' home doctor book too - eight years old and studying illnesses :) Good thing the internet wasn't around then ! My nephew got the same thing one day at school when he was 10 and got carted off to A&E by ambulance - not something I'd have wanted as a child - A&E came up with nothing for my nephew. It was quite by accident that I discovered what it was a few years ago when someone from work had exactly the same symptoms as an adult and no specialists could figure it out, they'd been to see both a cardiologist and lung specialist, so I did my bit of research since it sounded exactly like what I'd had as a child, and found Precordial Catch syndrome ! I see there is now a patient group - mostly people who had it as children and young adults, very few older adults get it but it is possible. Interesting eh ?

Do keep on the forum - it's really good and I got/get so much valuable information and support. There isn't a UK equivalent. The BHF (British Heart Foundation) has a forum for patients but they are mostly heart attack or CABG patients, very few bicuspid aortic valvers. I joined this forum a few years before I had my AVR and now I'm staying even though my surgery was nearly 18 months ago. I stay not just for the sake of others but also because I know I'll one day need a re-do, and anyway I keep having cardiologist appointments and echos - more often than before surgery !
 
Greetings from Houston, Texas! My BAV diagnosis in early June was quite the surprise also. I will keep up with your journey as I progress through mine. Thank you for sharing. It is so important for me to know that others are walking - and have walked - the same path. My anxiety has greatly decreased thanks to the postings on this forum.
Michele
 
Hot and humid greetings from another bicuspid valver in Chicago! (Well, I did have a BAV until surgery, that is. . . )

I'm another of the patients who learned of their valve issue when a doctor asked "How long have you had that murmur?" I was about 51 or 52 at the time, and finally had my valve replaced at age 63. I'm now 4 1/2 years post-op, and back to about all of my old antics. I did have to give up running, but not for heart issues. Simply put, after over 30 years of running, my knees just won't have it any more.

If you've been reading the archives, you probably know a good bit about the history of some of the BAV folks here. I'm glad you've been doing your homework, but don't be reluctant to ask questions of those of us who have been down the path. Sometimes it just works better if you ask what's on your mind and we can have a back-and-forth chat about it.

Oh, and welcome to The Waiting Room - the virtual room where many folks await their own turns at valve surgery. I was the honorary Waiting Room Host for around 10 years here, while I was waiting for my valve to get bad enough to be replaced. Have a seat, make yourselves comfortable, and come around to visit as often as you wish. We will be here for you.
 
Lovely to connect, Michele (honeybunny)! And thank you for the warm response.

It's good to know your anxiety has lessened thanks to this forum. The forum’s certainly helped me tremendously already. I’ll definitely be keeping up with your journey too. For now I send you good thoughts and the best from a summertime London.


And thank you Steve (epstns) for your wonderful welcome and kind words. Reading about your journey is a real comfort and help. The Waiting Room’'s already a place I feel I can pull up my chair and wait with the wisdom of the many. Goodwill certainly goes a long way to making the world a better place and the benevolent heart of this community is no exception. My best to Chicago!
 
Seaton, for some reason I have a mental image of you sitting by the fireplace, clutching a glass of port.
I'm also in the waiting room, with similar numbers to yourself.
 
Hahaha ... Thank you Agian. You are not far wrong re the port and fire. I sit here like Sherlock Holmes, patting a pet gazelle and surveying the landscape. Waiting has never been so good!

Will follow your journey with interest and friendship. I send cheers and a big best from a distant shore.
 
Greetings from outside Philly, I'm near the grill with an IPA in hand as it's too hot for the fireplace. Although I am in the middle of a major project involving my fireplace in anticipation of some nice fall/ winter nights by the fire possibly with some fine Kentucky bourbon in hand. If it hasn't been answered yet the EF is the % if blood exiting your left ventricle with each contraction. I believe 55 to 70% is considered the normal range.
 
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Good day Philly and and hello cldlhd!

Thank you for the EF information. Good to know what I should be looking for with regards to normal range. Paleogirl did mention hers was around 79% prior to surgery, which indicated her heart was coping well with her stenosis. Be good to know where mine’s at. Hope to get some figures at my next appointment.

And all the best with the new fireplace! May your winters be forever warm. ;-)
 
I believe 79% is pretty high for a LVEF especially with stenosis involved. My EF varied but I think that's normal as we're not machines and I think the test results are basically the interpretation of the individual reading them but it's something to keep in mind. I also didn't have any stenosis to deal with and my BAV had only trace leakage. My cause for surgery, on Feb 7th of this year, was my aneurysm. It included the root ,ascending and was spreading to the proximal arch. I was told ,according to all my tests, that I could wait years before I needed surgery but I decided to get it over with. The tests said my aneurysm was either 4.7 or 4.8 cm but after surgery I was told it was actually 4.99cm and the wall was thin. I had it replaced with a graft and the valve was given a "tune up" while they were in there. I don't say this to worry you, easy for me to say , but just to point out how the tests aren't 100% accurate.
It's way too hot here to even think about a fire as it's been in the 90's (sorry for the Fahrenheit but I am a colonist after all ) and very humid all week. I think a dip in the pool sounds more appropriate.
 
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I believe 79% is pretty high for a LVEF especially with stenosis involved..
My Ejection Fraction was always around 79% over the years pre surgery, dropped to 77% when my stenosis was severe, and now it's back at 79% post surgery - cardiologist happy with that, I suppose it's all relative and has to be interpreted individually like you say.
 
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Hahaha ... Thank you Agian. You are not far wrong re the port and fire. I sit here like Sherlock Holmes, patting a pet gazelle and surveying the landscape. Waiting has never been so good!

Will follow your journey with interest and friendship. I send cheers and a big best from a distant shore.

It will be a pleasure.
 
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