Coumadin and head injuries???

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doubletroublex2

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When do you say you sould go in and get checked out? Caleb just fell out the our swimming pool and landed on his head (I know how?!). I think that he is ok but I'm still worried. At his last check his INR was low at 2.0. I'm just not sure, he is walking and talking fine pupils look fine and only complaining of chest (incision) pain. Sould I just watch him or do I bring him in?

Please help!

Jamie
 
the fall

the fall

Caleb fell about two and half to three feet and landed on the grass.

Jamie
 
If it were me, I would just watch him then. If anything questionable comes up, then call your doctor. A fall onto the grass is much better than a fall onto a hard surface like concrete or asphalt. I've banged my head really good a few times on the corner of cabinets with no issues.

However, if the mom-factor comes into play and you feel a huge pull to give a call to the doctor, then do so. Peace of mind is a good medicine.
 
I would probably watch him at home if the fall was onto grass and at the first sign of anything untoward, take him to be checked out.

Is there a bump or anything???

xxx
 
There is a bump but not where he said that he hit his head. I'm thinking that I will just watch him, but this is the first head "injury" since coumidin.

Jamie
 
Just observe him. If pain or bump becomes increasing, then perhaps a trip to the Doc is called for. Amazingly, we are not eggshells like most people think we are. ;)
 
Head trauma can cause bleeding within the skull cavity. This is of two types. These are intracerebral ( within the brain) and subdural (between the covering of the brain, the dura, and the brain itself). This is the most common type of bleeding that can occur. These two injuries as well as what is commonly called a concussion may all have similar symptoms. The patient needs to be observed for change in neurological status. As a parent, watching for nausea, vomiting, severe headache, slurrded speech, change in mentation, and inability to arouse from sleep are of concern. Most bleeding episodes will poroduce significant changes within 24 hours. However, a slow leak in a subdural ( which occurs because moving ones head shakes the tiny blood vessels between the brain and the dura, can take weeks to develop symptoms. As I recall, President Reagan took several weeks after being thrown from a horse to develop symptoms.

There are good medical studies which show that obtaining skull xrays in patients without neurological symptoms is useless. So, going to the ER for xray without any of the above signs is not indicated. Wake your child every two hours. Confirm that they can recognize you, speak properly, and move all extremities. By the next day should be fine.

This answer is not intended as and does not substitute for medical advice - the information presented is for patient education only. Please see your personal physician for further evaluation of your individual case.
 
Well, congrats, Jamie.............

Well, congrats, Jamie.............

You had your first head hit sooner than we did. Katie's was three months post-op. I think you are right to just watch............based on what you have said. If you have any doubts, though, check it out. We, personally, fear the ER as we have to spend two hours just trying to explain Katie's anatomy to the ER folks. The last time we went in, the poor nurse taking her history just finally threw up her hands and asked us to relay it to the doc ourselves.

Anyway, I hope Caleb is well. Here is my thread about Katie's first head hit on coumadin. http://www.valvereplacement.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13384&highlight=coumadin+head I ended up calling Michigan and talking to the oncall cardiologist there. Please keep us posted. Many hugs. Janet
 
I agree with Dr. Allan. There is a small but significant chance of a slow bleed developing into a problem over 3 days or so. Rushing to the ER will result in a CT scan they may be negative because of a very small, slow bleed. This then gives a false sense of security. In a huge ER practice such a Mass General it happens less than once a month. Careful observation is needed whether you rush to the ER or not.
 
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