Coumadin and cranberries?

[Granbonny]

This week's Time Magazine has a front cover..Low-Carb Nation...Great articles. I was interested in The Fat Flush Plan.. Fat-flushing, "Liver-Loving" low carb diet calling for drinking 8 glasses of cranberry water? Guess, you delute it.. a day..to deter water retention (Ross??) plus a glass of hot water with fresh lemon juice to aid fat metabolism and stall carbs.... Question..what would cranberries do to my INR..Should I be the guinny pig? Bonnie

 

[LUVMyBirman]

Hi Bonnie....my guess is your INR would raise. When I drink a lot of the Cranberry juice...... I have found this to be true.

 

[Granbonny]

Hi Gina..Where were you on Sunday chat? We had the most members ever on-line. Fun..I need to take my INR tomorrow..and think I'll try this for a few days..and test again in a week. Bonnie

 

[tobagotwo]

Listen to Gina on this, but here's some additional info:

Cranberries are very good for your kidneys, where they leave a characteristic alkaline ash (most things leave an acidic ash). They're also wicked high in vitamin C, which can have some blood thinning effect of its own.

Good luck with incorporating them into your diet. They should be good for you, overall.

 

[LUVMyBirman]

Hi Bonnie! Few problems.....for the past month and a half.....have not had a lot of time to devote to VR.com. Life is busy Things will start to slow after this next weekend. Swinging my personal life and business is a great task. Especially with all that goes on in Kara's life. 2nd grade is brutal. Poor kids. They are pushing them so hard.

I read where Karlynn could not get into chat. This has been my experience since the new forum has been in place. Any suggestions Ross?

 

[Ross]

It has absolutely nothing to do with the new set up. Chat is still the same old same old. I've tried everything I can think of and I have no explaination other to simply reinstall java just before signing into chat.

 

[Granbonny]

Gina

Gina

We really missed you because all the old chatters were on line. Know what you mean..Something everyday for us too...Enjoyed 5 days on beach and came home to everything in Garden a growing. John spent all day..weeding, cutting out dead limbs from Mountain laurel. 3 acres of it. Getting ready to bloom. I live in a pink cloud for the month of May. Tree man coming this week. One thing I will not let John do. Cut down tall trees. We have one leaning into our driveway...Afraid an ice storm will get it one year and come crashing down on cars. Spent weekend before last helping Kameron do a huge project on Mo......State bird, flower, ect...and he told me today, the teacher still has not graded it. It's his only C at progress report and hoping to make a good grade. If he gets a B..He would be Honor student all year. Even being as sick as he was the month of March.. I'm planning a big weekend on local lake..with kids, ect. for Mother's Day..Then Kameron goes home to his Mom's in N.C. for a 3 week trip to Mexican Resorts. ..Maybe I can get some rest then. Try to join us next Sunday. Jim or Dave will come to your rescue. Our supermen. Bonnie

 

[Johnny Stephens]

Coumadin / Cranberry Juice warning from BBC last September

Coumadin / Cranberry Juice warning from BBC last September

Question..what would cranberries do to my INR..Should I be the guinny pig? Bonnie

My wife found these articles today, both of which refer to a warning issued by the BBC about cranberry juice increasing the effect of Coumadin. Apparently there were only 5 reports tying problems to Cranberry juice, so I'm not sure its relevant statistically. The reports are from last September:

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/health/feeds/hscout/2003/09/18/hscout515166.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3120206.stm

I haven't seen any other references to this. Wondering if Al has any thoughts about its credibility?

 

[catwoman]

I like cranberry juice, but don't usually buy it. However, I did have a week or two in the winter when I ate about 3 oranges a day and also had 2 grapefruit halves. Did affect my INR. Figured it was because of the increase in vitamin C.

 

[Gemma]

There seems to be something of an alarmist reaction against cranberry juice in England at the moment. When Jim first started taking warfarin, I noticed signs in doctors' surgeries and the anti-coagulation clinic warning patients not to drink cranberry juice because of a POTENTIAL interaction. Then yesterday I heard of a girl who went to collect her latest warfarin prescription and found labels stating "do not take cranberry juice with this medication" on all the packages.
Whatever happened to consistency? I can understand the problems of suddenly changing your diet but if you've always drunk cranberry juice without problems, surely stopping drinking it could cause a nosedive in the INR which would be equally problematic as the slim chance of a haemorrhagic event (incidentally, there are an estimated 500,000- 750,000 people taking warfarin in the UK - is 5 people having a problem caused by cranberry juice & warfarin statistically relevant?).
Gemma.

 

[Guest]

There were 15 people killed in Colorado skiing last winter but no talk of banning that.

 

[gijanet]

Yes, but............

Yes, but............

There were 15 people killed in Colorado skiing last winter but no talk of banning that.

Yeah, Al, but they probably weren't drinking cranberry juice at the time ............... ................

 

[JimChicago]

Could the salicylates in the berries be the culprit of the alledged possible interaction?

From:
http://www.krasntfp.ru/berries.htm
>>>>
Cranberries are a remedy for inflammatory diseases due to the presence of salicylates in the berries, which work as a natural aspirin. In addition, cranberries can improve circulation.
>>>>

 

[Guest]

Probably not. Salicylates work on platelets and may increase the risk of bleeding but they do not affect the INR. Years ago it was thought that they did but now it has been shown that they do not.

There are also variations between types of salicylates in how much they affect platelets.

 

[Gemma]

So if a person taking warfarin was to have a jug of cranberry juice, go skiing, fall over and bang his/her head they might be in trouble

 

[Johnny Stephens]

So if a person taking warfarin was to have a jug of cranberry juice, go skiing, fall over and bang his/her head they might be in trouble

Only if they were in Colorado.

 

[tobagotwo]

GemmaJ is so right. If people suddenly dropped the juice from their stable diets, their INRs would nosedive, if the hypothesis is correct. Those warnings are more reckless than helpful. Idiots...

Why would the British want to Ban The Cranberry? Is it because it comes from the Colonies? I am going from cranberry state #4 to visit cranberry state #1 and #2 on vacation. I shall urge them to banish crumpets, or perhaps hedgehogs...

 

[Valve-Viking]

So Vodka & Cranberryjuice is not an option any longer........
Maybe someone should invent a drink based on spinach and
gin or something, to level it out? What ya think?


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Martin

 

[Guest]

Call it Popped Eye

 

[tommy]

Hey, we have crangrape, cranapple, cranorange, etc., why not cranspinach?