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kevin21

What are your thoughts on the Atkins diet and leaky A/V?

I'd try to get with my Dr. but that's almost as hard as losing weight. I see mixed reviews on this diet and I think that me trying it for 25-30 days to see if I can get back in the old pants!!

I don't have high cholesterol so I'm not super worried about eating meat and cheese for 3-4 weeks.
 
Personally I don't agree with the "Atikins" way. Especially for those with heart disease.

If you cut your portions at mealtime. 3oz. of each item. Balance diet... Exercise x3 weekly.....think you will find it has the same effect.

Pretty much eat smaller portions of most anything I want. Very rare that I will eat fried food. Try the George Forman Grill. You can whip up some healthy, low fat veggies. Turkey burgers, etc. If you like Eggplant...it's filling and delicious on the grill!
 
Personally I think the Atkins diet is way over rated. To me, it's another American fad that is quick to catch on, but slow to realize what it's doing to the body. I would not recommend it for heart patients. You need all the nutrition and exercise you can get.
 
Atkins is successful as a short term weight loss program only. Thus, no complete cardiovascular impact study has, or really can be performed because no one is on it that long. However, sensible lifestyle changes in eating and exercise habits, as Gina suggests, is the only way to lose weight and keep it off. Simple math...you must burn more calories per day than you consume to lose weight. I know...I have struggled all my life with weight loss, weight gain and it is a constant battle. Best of luck and don't toss those old pants just yet!
 
Kevin,

The expression "a diet" implies a temporary thing. Once you complete the diet program, you will go back to what you were doing before. The yo-yo process is worse for you than doing nothing.

Being heart health is more important than pant size. You can start eating healthier today. The pants size will follow. If you go on "a diet", your heart health is not being addressed.

Eat right.
Exercise more.
Drink lots of water.

Easy words, huh? Start by eating balanced meals and exercising at least three days per week. Keep a glass of water nearby and drink often. My cardiac rehabbers said that exercising 30 minutes 3 days per week is "maintenance", so try 4 days or 45 minutes each time.

Still tempted by the bad stuff? Try cutting them out altogether, or cutting the portion, or substituting with something that is not so bad.

Ice milk instead of ice cream.
Second helpings? Vegetables instead of meat.
Grilled or baked instead of fried.
Chicken/turkey instead of red meat.

Dr. Phil has an interesting suggestion. Eat things that take longer to eat. For example, peeling some shrimp or slicing and apple takes longer than opening a pudding pop. Cut your meat into smaller pieces.

Stay out of restaurants, or have a strategy before you go in. Its really tough to eat right when you are bombarded with those enticing menus of large portions, fried foods, and rich desserts.

If you haven't been exercising, see your doctor first. But begin eating right tonight!
 
Hey Kevin,

A couple of years ago I found one of those gossip newspapers on a bench at work. In the magazine was an article on how Kenny Rogers lost thirty lbs. and "ATE ALL HE WANTED". I said this is impossible, and I am going to prove it. It took great sacrifice because I am a beer drinker (liquid bread= high carbs):D I ate no carbs for four weeks, and because I thought it was nutritionally unsound I started taking centrum vitamins and viactive, DO NOT mistake with viagra.:D

I ate unbelievable amounts of eggs, bacon, whipped cream and jello, cream in diet root beer and so forth-----I lost 13 lbs. I was not fat but did have the "beer belly" it went away.

I stopped there and added complex carbs and cut down drastically on pasta, potato, bread,sugar---oh yeah eat fresh veg or frozen, try to get canned or jarred anything and it will contain sugar.:confused: no wonder diabetis is on the rise.

My conclusion after this experiment was to eat all kinds of protein foods, fish, pork chicken and beef (normal portions) and with them veg. which are made of complex carbs.

Its so easy in this country to get sugar--ice cream, cookies cake, candy and then throw sugar in your canned foods, sugar everywhere------partys, company, meetings etc. then the other thing refined foods so easy to digest it takes no energy to turn the carb to sugar. your pancreas sees the rush of sugar, turns on the spigot to counter and balance it with insulin-- oops, too much and switches and bang your hungry again.:eek:

Buy the Atkins paperback book--study it-- get a grasp of the whole picture then try it if you are convinced. BUT don't make the mistake of staying with the three week no carb startup--some people are so impressed with the loss they want to stay on. Thats not the way the Atkins diet is supposed to work. You are supposed to add the complex carbs/ fresh fruit etc. until you see you are at the maintaining level, then cut back a little.

Wow, hope this is clear, there is still a lot of disputes on this but no studys to back up anything yet.
 
I'm a veteran of ALL the diets, and I got fatter every time.

My cardio OK'd me to go on the Atkins plan as a temporary deal, but this was after my surgery. He said (I believe this as well,) that it's not sustainable for your whole life, so in the end you still have to change your habits.

In the end, I chose a longer-term medically supervised plan that is all about making smarter choices and not starving yourself. I'm still early on, but the exercise and supervision appear to be working (I sure FEEL a lot better). Time will only tell if I'm able to permanently change my habits.
 
Thanks for all the opinions.

I exercise about 2-3 times per week for about 20-30 minutes based on intensity. I have severe leakage so I try to not over do it. I used to lift weights regularly about a year ago (used to bench press 90lb dumbells and bicept curl 50's) and weighed about 175 (not "ripped up" but mostly muscle).

I quit doing heavy weights and now I just try and concentrate on form and have reduced the weight. I also quit doing many sholder exercises where the arms are above the heart. We bought a eliptical trainer, a healthclub quality one (I vowed to use it if it worked smoothly instead of some of the cheaper ones we've had and used for clothes racks), and I have been using that for my cardio. I get to fatigued running to do it more than 20 minutes (at a good pace).

I used to eat real well but once I switched to a desk job from building houses I noticed I've gained about 10 extra lbs.

I'm going to do the adkins, 14 days of less than 20g/carbs and then use the other 14 days on the "weight loss" of less than about 30-40g/ carbs then go back to the pre-desk job way I used to eat, Chicken and veggies with a small portion of potatoes or rice.

My biggest problem had been all the fast food!! I'd eat 3-4 burritos from Taco bell or, I hate to say, 2 1/4 pounders from McD's. Now that I've been forced to eat prepared foods (prepared by me or my wife) I realize that a little extra work making dinner and lunch is better than a ".99 heart attack, in a sack."

Don't worry, I won't be on Adkins for long. I think I just needed to pull a sort of 180 in the middle of my road to size 38's and this was the ticket!!! 33's here I come!!!
 
Here's something interesting...

Here's something interesting...

I just heard on the news this morning that when Dr. Atkins died, he weighed 258 lbs.... hmmmm. His wife claims his weight had nothing to do with his diet, does that mean he didn't follow his own diet? Or what?

I bought the paperback a while back, looked at it and said, "NO WAY!" Personally, I don't think eating protein and fat is going to make ME lose weight.

I think it all comes down to the whole calorie thing, (and exercise of course), and from my experience Weight Watchers has the most all-around well balanced plan.

One of these days, I'm going to get myself motivated and get going!
 
I too thought it was bs, it goes against all known information on fat and meat.

I have had 3-4 friends and persons I know that have lost upwards of 30 lbs each, in less than 2-3 months.......

I don't know if they kept it off or not but I think I can.
 
Smaller portions seems to work best.

Keep as active as you can, keep healthy snacks like celery sticks, fruits, rice cakes, etc. around...


I think any "positive" change in your diet (not dieting) is better than some fad diet.

I've got friends and family who've done the Atkins thing and a great number of other diets and while they do lose weight, they get it back if they slip up or stop following it.


There was some study (it may have been "informal" by a TV news program, I don't recall) where they had volunteers on six or eight of the major diet plans. They all lost weight, some faster than others, but in the end, after a year of monitoring them and maintaining the diet regime, they all lost the same amount of weight and it wasn't that significant.


You need to take a hard look at your eating habits and change them for the better, that will help you in the long run before any quick "diet" will.


I'm struggling too, put on 25 pounds since getting home from the hospital last May. I was below my "fighting weight" of 135lbs and am at 155 give or take now. I'd prefer to be below 140 which is about right for my height and build.


I hear the "drink lots of water" bit a lot and it's kinda funny because I'm on a fluid restriction and I take diuretics to keep the evil heart failure away.... =)
 
I don't profess to know too much about the Aitken's diet, but does the protein have to come from such "fatty" sources like cheese and meats..? There's also plenty of protein in mushrooms, legumes and eggs (..and again, the debate is raging over whether eggs are "bad" for cholesterol or not.... If in doubt, surely egg whites would suffice..). Personally I'm a bit wary of diets that cut out certain food groups all together - I think you just need to be a bit wise about it and if you can't do without carbs then go for the more complex ones (wholemeal flours, brown rice, bran... they're really not that bad :) )

I must say though, I was pretty horrified at what I found in the shops when I was in the States. I couldn't find anything that didn't have extra sugar/frosting/cheese/flavouring.... Finding a "normal" breakfast cereal, for instance, was nigh on impossible!! And eating out...I could feed a family of 5 with most of the portions I was given..!!! It's really not surprising that so many Americans are struggling with weight issues when everything is super-sized and loaded with sugar. It was certainly an eye-opener for me. :eek:

Anna : )
 
"And eating out...I could feed a family of 5 with most of the portions I was given..!!!"

Some US resturants are guilty of this practice! We usually split the portion...and still have leftovers! Italian resturants are famous for this. There is one we frequent....childs size pasta dish is enough to feed a family of 3 twice!
 
I don't understand the Atkins diet. I don't get why carbs are so evil ... for instance, why is pasta banned? In Italy people eat lots of pasta and compared with Americans Italians are slim -- American tourists stand out because they are so HUGE. I always thought that what was bad about pasta here was not the pasta per se, but that it is so loaded with stuff. I've seen what passes for pasta in places like the Olive Garden chain: the pasta is absolutely smothered. In Italy you get pasta with a bit of sauce, and that is it. Ditto for pizza: I've heard Americans say they didn't like the pizza in Italy because the Italians are so sparing with the ingredients they put on top -- Americans expect something more like Straw Hat. I think portion size is the key. Portions in the US are so much bigger than in Italy or in France. In France, if you get a piece of pie or cake, it is delicious but it is a thin slice; in the US it is a third of a pie! I read somewhere that even American cookbooks have adjusted to the expectations of the American consumer, and now give measurements for recipe ingredients that translate to a much larger amount per serving than they used to.
 
have any of you heard of the fat flush plan?

The author, i don't have my book handy or I would mention the author...

One suggestion she makes is her cocktail flush.... diluted cranberry juice (yes unsweetened...) with water and a teaspon of ground flax seed. Yes sweetners are allowed. She recommends stevia which is a natural sweetener. This beverage acts as a natural diuretic as well as other benefits...

It really is worth exploring for a diet that offers more than a short course to weight life. Her plan is designed for lifestyle change...

Bethanne
 
I don't declare to be an expert, but a variation of Atkins is a great lifestyle habit of eating.

Basically, you cycle your carbs.

For example day one and two you eat as few carbs as possible and keep the protein way up (not from fatty sources).

Moving to day three...eat all the carbs you want (preferably not empty carbs as beer or white rice or white bread....especially not french fries or something like that) Working out or cardio exercises is a must while on this.

Prior to my surgery I maintained approximately 10% bodyfat or less year round with this eating style. Post surgery, I kept it going and kept the fat off for about six months. (that's when the mental anguish over style of work-out took over and I just stopped all together)

Recently, I have begun this again and it is working.

The cycling basically "fakes out" your body. The day you load on carbs your body go nuts with them using all you consumed and more...then when you drop off the carb intake, your body is still continuing to use them like the day before when you loaded up. (Hope this is making sense). The third day your body is just figuring out that you are not feeding it the carbs and begins to slow use.....the whamo do it again. Works great and you feel great.


Adkins....I believe the reason folks like this diet so well is because they can loose weight without actually exercising and still eat allot of bacon and cheese burgers (without the bread of course)....... America is a very lazy Country for the most part. The most overweight people in our society are the poorest (statistics say)


I'll get off my soap box now.

Enjoy your day all.

Ben
 
For people with heart issues that involve any kind of fluid problems, such congestive heart failure, and for people who are on diuretics, diets that cause large amounts of urine output and/or system "flushing" should be run by your doctor. These kinds of conditions can also involve your kidneys and a diet which stresses your kidneys should be monitored.
 
ahem!

ahem!

Just to keep the record straight----On last nites news, it was reported that Dr. Atkins weighed 195 Lbs. upon entering the hospital after a slip on the ice that ultimatly led to his death.
Apparently the meds and bedriden envirement led to this gain in wt.
Also his heart problems were the result of viral infection, not lifestyle.
 
Nancy,
I agree there seem to be so many diets out there, each with their own philosophy. It can be very confusing....

Another diet philosophy that seems to make sense to me is "the eat by your blood type" I am o+ and alot of the information presented I concur with personal experience. This would explain why some diets work for some people and not for others.

I mentioned the fat flush plan becuase I am always drawn to "healthier ways" to deal with health issues versus taking meds... it probably has to do with feeling like I have some control... LOL!!!

You seem very knowledgeable. I would be curious to your review to "the fat flush plan" if you ever get a chance to look it over. I felt good when I was following it strictly... once I got over the first week of no sugar and simple carbohydrates.... It definately requires more energy to prepare fresh food, fresh veggies etc.

one simple tip that I still use is incorporating "healthy broth" instead of butter when cooking, mix a little in your eggs for breakfast they are yummy!

I agree it is a given that a consult with the doctor regarding "diets" is a must as they are more in tune to your special needs...
 
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