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Missy

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I don't know if I am in the right forum for this question but maybe it won't matter.
Maybe Al or someone knows.
Why do some patients take 81 mg. aspirin and some take 325 mg.?
I take 81 mg.
 
4 yrs ago when I came in, I was taking an aspirin a day - dr said to do that but he didn't say 300mg or 81mg or what - just an aspirin a day. Robthatsme was taking 81mg and suggested I check out the lower dosage. My cardio said fine about the lower dosage. Tender stomachs and those tending towards ulcers need lesser dosages, if possible. There is also enteric aspirin which dissolves in the intestine and not in the stomach. I take the 81mg enteric. Aspirin is always hard on the stomach lining so you might want to check with your doctor about which type and mg to take. I am sure there is some logic they have about the mg, but I don't have a clue as to what it is.
 
There are receptor sites on platelets where aspirin fits to deactivate them from clumping. It appears that about 100 mg per day will keep all of the sites deactivated.

But there are no studies of outcomes showing that keeping about 80% of the sites deactivated gives any poorer response than keeping 100% deactivated. If you take 325 mg of aspirin daily you deactivate all of the sites and your body metabolizes the rest.

All of the studies that I have seen show that all of the strengths give the same outcome. There was no difference in bleeding either.

So the only factor is price and that is minimal. Every generic company has bottles of about 300 tablets of 325 mg for about the same price. Many years ago, before there was Motrin, babies were being poisoned by playing with aspirin bottles, so the FDA made a rule that 81 mg aspirin could be packaged in bottles no larger than 36 count. That persists today. The artificial demand created for baby aspirin raised the price. So today you can buy about 300 count 325 mg for about the same price as 36 count 81 mg. The only difference is in how much you want to spend.
 
The pharmacist in our local supermarket told me the same thing about baby aspirin and the packaging requirements. Now the companies are getting by that requirement by packaging .81 aspirin, 120 per package, and labeling them "New Adult Low Strength." Kroger has a generic that is "enteric safety coated" It's about a third of the price of the Bayer "adult low strength" (.81) package.

Blanche
 
Hi Hensylee,

There was an article that strongly suggested that those on 325 cut back to the 81 mg aspirin.

I have always been on the 325 mg dose, and I asked my doctor about the article. He recommended that for my condition I stay on the 325 dose. so, I am still taking the 325's.

Here is a part of that report.

SAFER DOSE DETERMINED
The most crucial advance offered by the study is in defining the appropriate dose of aspirin for long-term therapy, said Dr. Eric Topol, cardiology chief at the Cleveland Clinic who was not involved in the analysis.
?That?s a big thing. Before this analysis we weren?t sure what the dose was at all,? Topol said. ?325
milligrams was readily available, so it was used out of convenience, but now I think we?ve zeroed in in the range of 80 to 160.?
Most doctors and heart specialists prescribe 325 milligrams of aspirin ? the same as a regular strength adult aspirin tablet ? per day when applying it as a blood thinner.
The latest analysis shows that between 75 milligrams and 150 milligrams works just as well, with less chance of internal bleeding. In the United States, a baby aspirin tablet, also available as low-dose adult aspirin, contains 81 Milligrams.


?There are two problems,? Topol concluded ?Doctors are giving too much or they are not giving any at all. We have a lot of work to do now to get all the patients treated and at the right dose.
?That dose should be considered to be one or two baby aspirin and not the standard 325 milligrams,? he said.
A similar analysis performed in 1994 by the same group solidified the role of long-term daily aspirin treatment in avoiding second heart attacks or strokes in people who have already had one.
The latest review, published in the British Medical Journal, is a much-anticipated update.
?We?ve got clear evidence now from this review that people who haven?t yet had a heart attack or stroke do benefit, but they are being treated less than half the time with aspirin,? said Baigent, also an epidemiologist at Oxford.
?If we were to tackle that group, that would save about 40,000 extra lives a year worldwide,? he said.

UNDERUSED REMEDY
?Aspirin is not an appropriate treatment for everyone but it is important that all those who might benefit are actually offered it,? said Sir Charles George, medical director of the British Heart Foundation, which helped fund the research.

Baigent attributed the under-use of aspirin, one of the world?s most popular drugs, to a lack of clear guidelines. But he added that aspirin was only suitable for people who were at increased risk of a heart attack or stroke because of a medical condition.
The study concluded that most healthy people, who have less than a 1 percent chance of having a heart attack or stroke, should not regularly take aspirin to prevent heart trouble.
The key is to determine how unhealthy someone has to be to benefit from aspirin, Baigent said. If the likelihood of having a heart attack or stroke is smaller than the chance of internal bleeding from the aspirin, the drug would cause more harm than good. People should always consult a doctor before taking the drug regularly, he added.


Hope this helps,

Bob
 
Thanks Rob - I recall now that you have straightened me out in the past about your mg.

My cardio said I could take the 81mg but from the article it sounds like the 300 or 2 baby aspirin tabs might be better for most. I have appointment with my cardio next month and will be sure to check it out.

Thanks again for the info.
 
My orthopedic surgeon put me on "baby aspirin" but found the "adult low doseage" kind at Costco--it comes with about 300 little coated pills. Don't know the brand off hand, I'm at work so can't go look.

Joan
 
SO, if one (patient) wanted to take 162 mg of aspirin a day, would it be better to take 81 in the morning and another 81 at dinner? Is it best to take aspirin with food?

Al Lodwick - what is your opinion?

'AL Capshaw'
 
The aspirin irreversibly destroys much of the ability of the platelets to clump. A platelet lasts for about 7 days (I think) in the body. So the effect of the aspirin never wears off after it reacts with a platelet. However, those platelets are destroyed by the body and new ones are produced. So once the aspirin acts it never goes away from that platelet. The reason that you have to take more is because you produce new platelets.

My guess is that there will be no detectable difference between taking 81 mg X2 in the morning or 81 mg twice a day. It won't hurt anything, nor will it make it more effective.
 
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