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karenm

Hello all! I am new here but have been reading your posts for a while as I gathered up information and courage for my upcoming PVR surgery on November 3. I was starting to feel like a peeping tom, so I decided it was time to come out of the shadows and introduce myself!! Some of you have endured my angst at ACHAHeart.org. I am an adult congenital heart patient, so like many here I started this long adventure at birth. I'll try to paint my history in broad, brief strokes so as not to take up too many electrons!

At birth in 1960 I was diagnosed with Tetrology of Fallot, I had a Blalock procedure to patch me up at 18 months and an OH at 5 years (had to wait to weigh enough to be on the heart lunch machine). Never could do the president's physical fitness test, but other than that I did fine until I was 16 and the new cardio thought it was time to take me off the digoxin. I spent the 4th of july in the ICU being shocked back into sinus rhythm. Boy did I see fireworks!

Fast forward to my 30's, some SOB with exercise but it came and went. When I started asking my cardio if I could have a child, she sent me to the cath lab to check out my pulmonary valve. It looked ok, but I was told that it likely had 5 - 10 years left before a replacement was in order! That was the first I had heard about this. When I had my beautiful son 6 years ago I promptly put all thoughts of new heart parts out of my mind!

About 18 months ago, a new cardio (always changing insurance, gotta change doctors) told me it was time for a pacemaker and coumadin due to my pronounced AFib. At age 44 I had a different opinion and decided to add aspirin and the reduced salt diet. He was not at all pleased with my stuborness (I tried to tell him it was what had kept me alive some 40 years ago) and over some months he informed me it was time to reduce my fluids and to learn about an ablation. I thought he was bonkers and as I was about to get a second opinion I got new insurance and a new cardio. This time an ACHD specialist (yeah).

The ACHD team found me in severe AFib the first day I met them in July ( I was nervous to meet them, it is almost always trigered by adrenaline.) This seemed to worry them more than me as I had been functioning with it for many years. They scheduled me for a holter monitor and started a beta blocker on the spot (after an echo and EKG). This is when the real fun started. I started the beta blocker and it had me so dragging that I reduced my dose to 1/2 (with the DR ok). After 2 weeks on the new meds I turned in the Holter on Thursday and went out of town for the weekend. When I was sitting at work on Wednesday afternoon, the DR office called me to request strongly that I have someone drive me to the ER NOW as I was at severe risk of sudden death due to the long breaks between heart beats while I sleep. They were wanting to monitor me and schedule an emergency pacemaker!

That was a fun call. I informed them that this was no doubt the work of the efficient beta blocker and that I was pretty sure that I would likely make it through the night. I had an appointment already scheduled for the next afternoon, and I would come in then to discuss this with the DR. The Cardio then called to repeat the message but finally agreed with me that I was probably going to make it one more day, and we both agreed that the beta blockers were not the best for me. I did not sleep much waiting for the grim reaper to visit!

On August 19, I arrived at the appointment bravely consigned to getting a pacemaker. At the appointment I was told that I needed more than the old cardio thought. I needed to start with a TEE then move to an ablation for the AFib. One that was done I would be needing a PVR and most surely a pacemaker. What had seemed difficult before (some salt reduction and a pacemaker) was a tiny piece of my future.

So, with that I scheduled a ablation on August 25th. The promised 1 hour procedure turned into an 8 hour marathon due to my complex circuitry and my years of AFib. I learned to never again refuse a catheter if the surgical nurse thinks that you just might want one, just in case!

I have not had the TEE, but have scheduled the PVR for November 3. I will have a coronary and pulmonary angiogram on November 2 just for grins. On the 3rd, I will be getting a new pulmonary valve, repairing an atrial/septal hole (is that spelled right) and possibly getting a new mitral valve and a pacemaker.

I have been trying to be brave. The words that Michelle and Jeff have shared have help quite a bit. I too have a 6 year old son that I am trying to prepare and reassure. I am heartsick at the thought that something will happen to me and he will be left in the care of others. I am trying to put that out of my head, but it is haunting me.

I am also trying to avoid thinking about my phobia of needles (the IV is a real trial for me) and not to think about the breathing tubes, yep- anything down my throat terrifies me too.

I know that you have all had these thoughts, and have made it to the other side with success. I am thankful that you have shared your stories and have let me see a glimpse of hope.

Whew ... if that was keeping it brief, imagine if I had tried to tell the whole tale! Thanks for listening, and I'll ask for your thoughts as I get nearer to November 3rd.
~Karen
 
Well Karen nice to see you step out of the shadows. I don't think I'll ever understand why people do that, but hey, your with us now. Your not exactly new to the picnic, so you at least have some idea of the whole gambit of feelings. I'm sure by now, you realize that no matter how many times we go through this, we are always basketcases before hand.

Can someone post your surgical results when your done? We like to keep tabs of folks and some of us (me) get really nervous when we don't hear anything. I'll put you up on the calendar. If you need anything, you know what to do.

Welcome to our home. Glad you became part of it now. :)
 
Karen,
Welcome to our family! Am also an adult(33yrs) congenital heart patient was born with TOF. I just had my 3rd OH surgery a month ago to replace my pulmonary valve and they put a ring around my tricuspd valve. In 6months I will have to go back for my TEE and ? pacemaker. But for right now other than being alittle sore am doing great. Am sure you will do great the fears are worse than the act it self. If you ever need to talk am here!
Stacey
 
WOW, what a story!

I think you 'win' for this month at least...

My first thought was 'Do you have someone who can stay with you for the first week at home'?

It would also be good if someone could 'keep an eye' on you (and the nurses / techs / whoever treats you) while in the hospital?

Finally, do you have a recliner that you could sleep in during those first few weeks at home? Most of us find sleeping in a bed is difficult until our sternum's heal a bit.

Best wishes for your 'trip over the mountain'.

'AL'
 
Karen, welcome to our forum. Since you have been around awhile you know how diverse our population is. I'm glad you are out of the shadows because now we get a chance to know you a bit. It seems like you are an old hand with heart disease but not the valve issues. There are others here that have histories that parallel yours in many ways. Stacey has already chimed in and I'm sure the others will too. We are there to help in any way that we can so please make yourself totally at home.
 
Thanks for your nice welcome!
To answer a few questions -- Ross, I was a shadow lurker because I did not feel that I had anything to add to the great conversations that were ongoing. However when I realized that I was cheering and crying for others, I knew it was time to let them know that!

Yes Al, I have gotten a recliner! I have learned so much from reading about recovery. I have loaded my iPod, gotten a recliner and am lining up people to help get my son to school with a lunch made and clean clothes! I still have to figure out my undergarments, but I have a week or so for that!

I am lucky that my mother will come and stay with my son while I am in the hospital. This should help him to maintain some routine (important for us all, but especially the little guys.) My partner just had a more routine surgery and has six weeks off from work during recovery -- so I will be in good hands through Thanksgiving.

Oh, and I forgot to add to my list of events for my surgery, I also am getting a Maze procedure!!
Thanks again! ~Karen
 
Was the ablation for the afib, or something else? Usually, the maze procedure is for afib, so it sounds like the ablation wasn't the whole answer.

Glad to have you posting and out of the woodwork. It's good to hear that you will have some help and company. November third is still a long wait, so try to keep busy, so you won't go crazy.

Best wishes,
 
Hi Karen, I thought I recognised your user name from ACHA. So glad you decided to drop in here as well :)

I was interested by your reaction to the beta-blockers. My cardio's won't put me on them because they're worried about my HR dropping too low, more so than the fact that it tends to be quite irregular. I've spoken to a few ToFers who suffer from a low heart rate and BP - have you had the same experience?

Anyway, I'll be keeping you in my thoughts as your surgery draws closer.

All the best
Anna : )
 
It's so nice to "meet" you!

It's so nice to "meet" you!

While I certainly wouldn't wish anyone into the CHD world, it is always nice to meet another adult CHDer, as you all give me so much hope for my daughter Katie's future.

I am sorry to hear that you are having problems, though, and sorry, too, about that marathon ablation. I do understand all too well about complex circuitry. Due to Katie's interrupted inferior vena cava and occlusion in her major femoral vessels, her caths have to be done through her neck and tend to be marathon in nature as well.

But I am not buying into your not being brave............you sound like one tough cookie to me. Anyone who can tell the doc, "Look, I am not going to die tonight," sounds pretty courageous in my book. When we were finally allowed to go back and see Katie in recovery after her last pre-op cath, I told her she was the bravest little girl I know. With big tears in her eyes, she croaked out, "Me not brave. Me cried." Over a huge lump in my throat, I just looked her right in the eye and said, "Oh, sweetie, even brave girls cry." And those are my words to you, too. Even big, brave girls cry.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers, and do please keep us posted. Sending hugs and prayers.
 
There is never a good way to broach this subject, but in the 'just in case' department, you may want to talk with a lawyer about a Will, Medical Power of Attorney, General / Financial Power of Attorney, and custodian for your little one. Savings and investment accounts can be set up with a TRANSFER ON DEATH clause that allows you to allocate what percentage of assets go to whoever AND avoids the delays and public exposure of Probate.

This doesn't mean we expect the worst, just that we are prepared for the worst in the slim chance...
Like I said, there just isn't a good way to approach this subject.

FWIW, I was happy that I 'wasted' a few hundred bucks getting all of those things taken care of by a lawyer... and VERY GLAD that it was a waste of money. :)

I'm glad you decided to 'go public' Karen.
Welcome to this great community of 'Heart Buddies'.

Best wishes.

'AL'
 
ALCapshaw2 said:
There is never a good way to broach this subject, but in the 'just in case' department, you may want to talk with a lawyer about a Will, Medical Power of Attorney, General / Financial Power of Attorney, and custodian for your little one. Savings and investment accounts can be set up with a TRANSFER ON DEATH clause that allows you to allocate what percentage of assets go to whoever AND avoids the delays and public exposure of Probate.

This doesn't mean we expect the worst, just that we are prepared for the worst in the slim chance...
Like I said, there just isn't a good way to approach this subject.

FWIW, I was happy that I 'wasted' a few hundred bucks getting all of those things taken care of by a lawyer... and VERY GLAD that it was a waste of money. :)

I'm glad you decided to 'go public' Karen.
Welcome to this great community of 'Heart Buddies'.

Best wishes.

'AL'
The sad thing is, we should all have done this regardless of upcoming events. It just takes something like this to make us move on it. ;)
 
Amen, Ross.

We always had arrangements made for our children "just in case". I think it was on a recent visit to see our eldest son (now 37), his wife and baby daughter that my husband made the announcement that upon our demise our son no longer was to go live with uncle Bill but was now on his own. Of course everyone laughed but the underlying message about providing for own's family was delivered.
 
Thanks again for more good suggestions.
And here are more answers!
The Ablation was for Afib. I had a pretty serious case of on again - on again afib and we were hoping that the ablation would help. It seems to have helped somewhat. I am now 8 weeks after the ablation and I have fewer episodes, but the few that I have seem more severe. The maze is to take the work a little further, and hopefully that will calm down the afib.

The beta blocker did do too good a job at lowering my HR. I had used it "as needed" when I was pregnant, and it was successful then as it was just for those days that my adrenaline was off the charts. I typically get into afib when I am anxious, excited or dehydrated! My heart rate is usually ok, but I have very frequent afib bouts. I do not notice them unless I am over about 180 bpm as I am so used to them. Using the beta blocker every day brought me to about 60 bpm on average, but at night I was going 3 - 4 seconds between beats as I was slowed down too much. So ... I think that your cardio is right.

Thanks everyone for your kind words and encouragement. Janet, It is nice to know that it is ok to cry, because I sure do lately!!

~Karen
 
Welcome

Welcome

Karen
I wish you the best of luck with your upcoming surgery. You and your son will be in my prayers throughout the upcoming weeks. I can relate to your fear of needles and tubes down the throat. Thankfully, the morphine drip will make you forget about both!
Dawn
 
Hey, and other CHD kid! =)


Welcome, you already know how great a place this can be.


I think one of the best ways to combat any pre-op jitters is to try and get as much planning done ahead of time on support issues. It looks like you've already got a good start making sure you'll have people to help you out when you get home, taking care of your kid and household chores and such.

Might I also recommend asking about cardiac rehab plans BEFORE surgery? I'm not sure this has been suggested much but I have seen a lot of people here that have gone through surgery only to find out they had only a brief amount of coverage for rehab (less than a month some times or only 12 appointments) or no coverage for it at all.

If you can, it may be worth asking about before you go under the knife.

Pay some attention to how your home is arranged prior to surgery too. I had my stereo in "storage" for a long time before I had surgery and my father and I moved it back into my room and along side my bed about a week or so before my "VR-Day." (he did most of the work, I just pointed since I couldn't really speak anymore, long story.) Make sure stuff that you might want will be easily at hand, books, favorite CD's, a place to set a drink or whatever so you're not trying to bend down to the floor to get stuff.

The other thing you will want to be able to do as soon as possible after surgery (you'll do it some in the days following OHS while you're still in the hospital) is WALK. As much as you can for as long as you can. Winter's coming so you might ask about arrangements to walk someplace indoors, preferably with a partner who can help if you need it.


The rest you kind of just have to find it within you to let go and ride it all out. A lot of people have fears about IV's or being intubated and all sorts of other things that are done while in the hospital. No one really knows what to expect either. I don't remember being on vent at all even though I know from my family that I was conscious and responding to them for a while before I came off. I was on a vent for 5 weeks (I was a VERY special case) and I don't remember any of it, though I was "sleeping" through the first 4... A lot of that stuff now is a distant memory and it was quick to slip into "the vault" like that once I got home. You just have to ride it all out, find stuff that helps you take your mind off thigns as much as possible. TV's good for that. Visits from family or friends.

Personally, I wasn't much for reading at the time. It was too much effort to sit up and page through a book. I had a CD player and used that frequently once I got a good set of headphones (the first set had several shorts in the lines) and I had a few little games like Tetris to play with when TV was too boring.

A CD player (or at least the CD's) is good for stuff like MRI scans of being in the cath lab when you really can't do much of anything other than lay still. I never thought of it while I was in the hospital, but I'm certain the doctors would have made some accomidation so that I could listen to my music (as long as it wasn't obnoxious or obscene probably!) during proceedures.

There's other stuff too, a good bathrobe and slippers are all but PARAMOUNT when planning a hospital stay. Your own toothbrush and toothpaste are nice too. Men might opt to bring an electric shaver from home if they use one. I had mine, though it died on me while I was trying to hack my way through about two weeks growth on my face. I had half a beard for the last two weeks of my stay with a scraggling mess on the other half!


There is a lot to do, stuff that will make things easier on you both in the hospital and afterwards, however in the end, we're all dealing with (usually anyways) seasoned professionals who've made this work their life. They may do a number of valve replacements and other complex surgeries every week, some even every day. My surgeon worked mostly on infants and young children and would schedule sometimes 5 or 6 surgeries a day, though he almost always kept surgery to just Wednesdays.

Those are the folks you want to be working with too. They live and breath this stuff and for most, there isn't anything they haven't seen before.


Hang on, it may get dicey at times, but the outcome is tremendous and very much worth fighting for. =)
 
karenm said:
Janet, It is nice to know that it is ok to cry, because I sure do lately!!
~Karen

And I just know they will be tears of joy and triumph here in the not too distant future. You have your VR family right here backing you and praying for you, too! There is strength in numbers.

Please continue to keep us posted. Sending hugs and prayers..........
 
Hi Karen

Hi Karen

Hi Karen, This is Kyla..my TOF girl. Welcome to ValveReplacement.com. This is an awesome site for information and support. I am learning more everyday and hope you will find the answers to your questions, and support for your fears. There is a lot of love going around at this site :)
 

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