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  1. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Agreed. I'm just seeing the "50% of cases are breakthrough cases" be twisted to "vaccines don't work", and it's frustrating.
  2. M

    Covid Vaccines

    With respect, Chuck, I think that the low percentage of breakthrough case counts will be less true as Delta spreads. As a larger and larger proportion of the population is vaccinated, a larger percentage of total cases will come from breakthrough cases. There's no question, however that...
  3. M

    Covid Vaccines

    It's important to understand that as a larger and larger proportion of the population is vaccinated, a larger percentage of total cases will come from breakthrough cases. This does not mean that the vaccine is not preventing cases or lessening the effects. The vast majority of deaths and...
  4. M

    Covid Vaccines

    File under: "vaccinations save lives"
  5. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Ah...forgive me..."populations with factory second hearts". If you remember some of the vagaries of the 08 crash, "Alt-A rated heart valves" will also suffice.
  6. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Wish I could be that hopeful, but I think HI is not realistic at this point. The ship has sailed. Delta already out there and Lambda is on the way. While it would be easy to blame this on the previous administration, and while there were definitely mistakes, I think it's a characteristic of...
  7. M

    Covid Vaccines

    I was today years old when I first learned about Bitchute.
  8. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Respectfully disagree (slightly). The unconvincable will remain unconvinced. However, fighting the good fight and replacing bad info with good info helps the "on the fence". The unconvincable dropped from 24% to 20%, and I doubt will drop much more than that. However, the Wait and See's...
  9. M

    Covid Vaccines

    You're a class act, @spartangator
  10. M

    Covid Vaccines

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  11. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Countdown to that reply in 3...2...1....
  12. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Known deaths from the vaccine in the US (all causes including thrombosis, myocarditis and allergic anaphylaxis) are approximately 8-10k in a population of about 151m fully vaccinated. Death rate is .00006. Death rate from Covid in the US is about 1.7% or about 25 thousand times more lethal...
  13. M

    Covid Vaccines

    " Or is this just the beginning to feed the conspiracy theory narrative? " This. I've been down this road on this particular talking point and no matter how many times you post links to multiple different labs that have both sampled the virus from infected patients (ie isolated) and sequenced...
  14. M

    Covid Vaccines

    I'm new here guys, and not an admin/moderator. However, despite my own big tangent posted above, I'd like to bring the thread back to a discussion about how Covid directly affects valve replacement patients. If your answer is "It doesn't affect it because Covid isn't real", or something to...
  15. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Trying to bring this thread back on topic somewhat. For some people considering upcoming surgeries, your local Covid rates and the size of your chosen hospital's ICU can factor into your choice of provider. My local regional hospital is good, but one of the factors that impacted my decision to...
  16. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Oh - re: people trying to field the "has it been isolated?" question. This is not a meaningful question. The genetic sequencing for Covid-19 and its variants has been established and published by a number of sources. Don't bother with this question - it's not offered in good faith.
  17. M

    Covid Vaccines

    Sigh - edited my original post to update a few incorrect instances of the word "virulent". @Chuck C - Plus, it let me use " numerator" and "denominator" for the first time in 30 years.... @spartangator - thank you. I'm mostly preaching to the folks on the margins who are making good faith...
  18. M

    I've crossed the line into severe and need to make a decision

    Best quotes from my PT during a very long shoulder surgery recovery: "Slow is fast" "There's no medals for valor"
  19. M

    Covid Vaccines

    "Herd immunity was accepted to be 70-75%. When polls showed only about 60% were willing to get vaccinated, Fauci suddenly claimed herd immunity was 80-85% to try to trick people into getting vaccinated." Not really interested in arguing with rich, but I did want to pull this specific sentence...
  20. M

    Covid Vaccines

    I struggle with this on a daily basis. On the one hand, I think "I want the best outcomes for everyone, and this means we need to keep encouraging people to get vaccinated." It's difficult, however, to make people do things that are in their interest over their inclination. On the flip side...
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