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    Default romaine lettuce and Vitamin K

    http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/2475/2
    after you check out the link, let me know if this is accurate? romaine seems to be much lower in Vitamin K than other types of lettuces. I understand dose the diet, but if I eat a nice chicken ceasar (sp?) salad twice a week, will me INR be affected by much? opinions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by witzkeyman View Post
    http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/2475/2
    after you check out the link, let me know if this is accurate? romaine seems to be much lower in Vitamin K than other types of lettuces. I understand dose the diet, but if I eat a nice chicken ceasar (sp?) salad twice a week, will me INR be affected by much? opinions?

    IMHO.....NO .... I eat salad everyday almost, various kinds of lettuce.....I am stable
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    I'm not sure I know the difference between Romane, Bibb or any other type of lettuce, but I eat salads made from some kind of "lettuce" several times a week. I have seldom, if ever, noticed salad having any noticeable effect on INR.
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    Not unless you start eating 3 salads a day suddenly.

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    You have heard of making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    Well, the amount of vitamin K in romain lettuce is about as big as a pimple on a microbe's nose. Al and I are both on coumadin and we eat salads with all sorts of greens, including romaine lettuce, almost everyday and sometimes more than once a day.

    Witzkeyman, please believe me!!! You have to relax and eat what you like in moderation. You're going to drive yourself crazy with worry otherwise.

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    A chicken casear salad eaten twice a week will have almost zero affect on your INR.

    Don't eat the whole head of lettuce daily but a normal salad is fine.

    The key is consistency.
    If you like caesar salad, eat it regularly. Have what you like but be relatively consistent about it.

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    That web site will show several different serving sizes, or one leaf, etc. It will make you crazy.
    I believe the lettuce with the least amount of Vitamin K is Iceburg....is also has the lowest nutritional benefits.
    Enjoy your chicken caesar salads! (easy on the fatty dressings).
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    Eat your greens and if you prefer one type of lettuce to another then go ahead an indulge. You will give yourself a headache if you start counting milligrams of vit.K.
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    Wink Let's put it this way

    A recent thread mentions an INR of 9.

    How many pounds of greens, including cauliflower, broccoli. brussel sprouts and everything else containing high amounts of vitamin K would it take to lower that INR to a more acceptable level?

    A full bath tub, a full dumpster? I suspect it would be more than a person could eat in a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lance View Post
    A recent thread mentions an INR of 9.

    How many pounds of greens, including cauliflower, broccoli. brussel sprouts and everything else containing high amounts of vitamin K would it take to lower that INR to a more acceptable level?

    A full bath tub, a full dumpster? I suspect it would be more than a person could eat in a week.
    I suspect your right.

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    Forget that list of vitamin K in foods!!!!!!!

    Just be fairly consistent, i.e., don't boycott green things for a month and then have salad 3 times a day for several weeks.

    And remember: CONSISTENT does not equal MONOTONOUS.
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    I've always read that the darker the green - the higher the K. That being said - I don't care. I just eat what I want.

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    Blanche, this is only my first year on Coumadin. I want to be extra careful.
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    Witzkey... Not a person can blame you. You have to stay in your comfort zone and what works for you. I found I needed to continue to my high in veggie diet for the brief time I was on coumadin. I have always eaten lots of greens/vitamin K foods and continued to do so. But I so understand someone who wishes to be more cautious. As you become more comfortable, perhaps you will slowly add back some foods you are currently avoiding or severely limiting.

    I had very serious conversations about this while at Mass General. Thankfully, all with whom I spoke agreed that, within reason, I could continue to eat all I was used to eating but to do so with consistency.

    This community is so extremely helpful with the fabulous info from those who have been there and have/are living it.

    Who but a valve surgery patient really knows what it is like? Who but you knows your coumadin comfort zone?

    Is your INR stable for the most part?

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    Witzkey, my first year I was very nervous about greens too and I missed out on some nice broccoli soups and salads.
    The real turning point for me was when I got my home monitor....it makes me feel safe when I test more often.
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    I can certainly understand your concerns, and at the start when I came out of hospital I obsessed about Vitamin K, but now 7 months post surgery I eat all kinds of foods, lettuces and have Caesar salad for lunch several times a week. My INR is very stable, and my list of Vitamin K foods is now being utilised as a scribbling pad.

    Jeff.

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    thanks cooker. I just want to enjoy a full chicken ceaser salad twice a week. I was under the impression that a couple of full salads (not side salads) a week would drop my INR from 3.0 to 1.5. thanks again
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    I haven't been brave enough to try broccoli. thanks bina
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    I think we all obsessed over the vit k issue. I know I was using the guides to make my meals with and all it did was frustrate the heck out of me. Until I threw the guides out the window and decided screw it, eat what I want then dose that diet, I was a mental moron.

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